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[FRAGTAST1C]

Who's Cooller? Better question.. "Would he/she use Adv. Zoom for targets at 300m?"

[Sniper09121986]

w4ldO, on 17 April 2020 - 12:36 AM, said:

what an awefully specific example.

Rapha? Raisy? Serral? Everyone starts somewhere.

[w4ldO]

Sniper09121986, on 17 April 2020 - 02:11 AM, said:

Rapha? Raisy? Serral? Everyone starts somewhere.

you could have cited fatal1ty and his famous "practice, practice, practice". noone here knows any quake players mon

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

and rightly so; this game has not a lot in common with (other) shooters. but you all know that..

frankly, zoom and especially adv.zoom is one of the first things you should DITCH when you start this game;
yeah, beginners all take it, I did too. my numbers got better after I figured out NOT to use that.
there are many things beginners sacrifice on the altar of zoom that are just WAY more important;
srsly, ditch it.
have a look into it again once you break the 80% mark (or any other number you call 'enough') or so; it has its uses. but almost anything else is more important, and at under 80 you still do "more good" for yourself if you stick to learning all the other stuff, like 'hitting stuff in the first place', 'how to do a good build', heatmanagement, positioning etc.

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 17 April 2020 - 04:10 AM.

[RickySpanish]

w4ldO, on 17 April 2020 - 03:35 AM, said:

you could have cited fatal1ty and his famous "practice, practice, practice". noone here knows any quake players mon

You mean like Thresh?

[Nearly Dead]

Why is it, no matter what the subject, whatever the forum, the OP never comes back and says "It was aliens and here is a screenshot of me being probed", or, "Damn, it was answer B"?

[John Bronco]

I agree we need closure on this thread.

The zoom, did he ever find it?

[YueFei]

BlaizerP, on 17 April 2020 - 01:31 PM, said:

I agree we need closure on this thread.

The zoom, did he ever find it?

He's still busy trying to salvage whatever is left of his pride first.

[FRAGTAST1C]

YueFei, on 17 April 2020 - 01:49 PM, said:

He's still busy trying to salvage whatever is left of his pride first.

He's probably busy fighting the manufacturers of his keyboard.

[sosegado]

Nearly Dead, on 17 April 2020 - 01:09 PM, said:

Why is it, no matter what the subject, whatever the forum, the OP never comes back and says "It was aliens and here is a screenshot of me being probed", or, "Damn, it was answer B"?

I apologize but I do still have a life outside of Mechwarrior. Like work and family.

So I just got back to the forum to find everything written for and about me.

1st to address the insults..you really aren't worth arguing with so I won't.
2nd to address the helpfull comments..Thanks. Your replies were what this community needs. People being helpful without all the judgy assholishness some have displayed.
3rd to address the original question.. I never realized that a few years ago when they switched up the game mechanics that they split the zoom into two separate types 'zoom' and 'advanced zoom' so I assumed they were the same.
Did I take a pride hit? Yep.
But luckily some here posted the help I was looking for and for that I am grateful.

Edited by Stab Wound, 17 April 2020 - 08:37 PM.

[Vxheous]

Stab Wound, on 17 April 2020 - 08:23 PM, said:

I apologize but I do still have a life outside of Mechwarrior. Like work and family.

So I just got back to the forum to find everything written for and about me.

1st to address the insults..you really aren't worth arguing with so I won't.
2nd to address the helpfull comments..Thanks. Your replies were what this community needs. People being helpful without all the judgy assholishness some have displayed.
3rd to address the original question.. I never realized that a few years ago when they switched up the game mechanics that they split the zoom into two separate types 'zoom' and 'advanced zoom' so I assumed they were the same.
Did I take a pride hit? Yep.
But luckily some here posted the help I was looking for and for that I am grateful.

You're still spouting nonsense. The mechanics of zoom/advanced zoom HAS NEVER CHANGED, they have always been separate key activations. The only thing that changed was how to get access to advanced zoom. Old way was a 2 million cbill module that took up a module slot, new way is 4 skill points into sensor tree. How advanced zoom works DID NOT CHANGE.

[Der Geisterbaer]

Vxheous said:

The mechanics of zoom/advanced zoom HAS NEVER CHANGED,

It would appear so, however ...

Vxheous said:

they have always been separate key activations.

... there's a bit of nuance there: I suggest that some of you take a closer look at the keybinding options. You might find one that remains the same key once set but automatically changes its behavior depending on whether or not "advanced zoom" is present as skill on the mech and that keybinding ...

Vxheous said:

The only thing that changed was how to get access to advanced zoom. Old way was a 2 million cbill module that took up a module slot, new way is 4 skill points into sensor tree. How advanced zoom works DID NOT CHANGE.

... indeed also worked exactly the same when "advanced zoom" was still a module.

So let's just stipulate a scenario there: OP originally set this particular keybinding used that one instead of the normal keybindings for standard zoom vs. advanced zoom. As a consequence he would have gotten standard zoom when no advanced zoom was present on his current mech but advanced zoom if the latter was present ... all with the same key. Now let's dvelve into the idea that after some years and a fresh install - possibly even on a new computer - our OP simply forgot that back in the he used that particular setting but still remembered getting the advanced zoom on mechs that had it but standard zoom on mechs that didn't ... all while using just the exact same key.

But hey, I guess he totally deserved what he got here, right?!

[Vxheous]

Der Geisterbaer, on 18 April 2020 - 12:32 AM, said:

It would appear so, however ...



... there's a bit of nuance there: I suggest that some of you take a closer look at the keybinding options. You might find one that remains the same key once set but automatically changes its behavior depending on whether or not "advanced zoom" is present as skill on the mech and that keybinding ...



... indeed also worked exactly the same when "advanced zoom" was still a module.

So let's just stipulate a scenario there: OP originally set this particular keybinding used that one instead of the normal keybindings for standard zoom vs. advanced zoom. As a consequence he would have gotten standard zoom when no advanced zoom was present on his current mech but advanced zoom if the latter was present ... all with the same key. Now let's dvelve into the idea that after some years and a fresh install - possibly even on a new computer - our OP simply forgot that back in the he used that particular setting but still remembered getting the advanced zoom on mechs that had it but standard zoom on mechs that didn't ... all while using just the exact same key.

But hey, I guess he totally deserved what he got here, right?!

That's a keybinding issue, not a game mechanics issue, which like I said, never changed.

[Der Geisterbaer]

Vxheous said:

That's a keybinding issue, not a game mechanics issue, which like I said, never changed.

And your answer still is ignorant with regards to the actual problem the OP had and still didn't warrant some of the aggressive and outright insulting comments he got.
So yeah, feel free to pad yourself on the back for having correctly stated that those particular game mechanics haven't changed but understand that ultimately that factually correct statement still is unrelated to the actual problem and you failed at properly identifying that problem. ~shrug~

[Ignatius Audene]

Maybe it has something to do with the pgi u broke the game style op wrote his "question"?

[sosegado]

Der Geisterbaer, on 18 April 2020 - 12:57 AM, said:

And your answer still is ignorant with regards to the actual problem the OP had and still didn't warrant some of the aggressive and outright insulting comments he got.
So yeah, feel free to pad yourself on the back for having correctly stated that those particular game mechanics haven't changed but understand that ultimately that factually correct statement still is unrelated to the actual problem and you failed at properly identifying that problem. ~shrug~

I want no conflict. the helpful people here are heros. especially to me. you all tried to help me without knowing another key point. I originally founded. most of my gameplay was pre-steam. please understand i had a couple of pre-steam years

Edited by Stab Wound, 18 April 2020 - 02:46 AM.

[sosegado]

Der Geisterbaer, on 18 April 2020 - 12:32 AM, said:

It would appear so, however ...



... there's a bit of nuance there: I suggest that some of you take a closer look at the keybinding options. You might find one that remains the same key once set but automatically changes its behavior depending on whether or not "advanced zoom" is present as skill on the mech and that keybinding ...



... indeed also worked exactly the same when "advanced zoom" was still a module.

So let's just stipulate a scenario there: OP originally set this particular keybinding used that one instead of the normal keybindings for standard zoom vs. advanced zoom. As a consequence he would have gotten standard zoom when no advanced zoom was present on his current mech but advanced zoom if the latter was present ... all with the same key. Now let's dvelve into the idea that after some years and a fresh install - possibly even on a new computer - our OP simply forgot that back in the he used that particular setting but still remembered getting the advanced zoom on mechs that had it but standard zoom on mechs that didn't ... all while using just the exact same key.

But hey, I guess he totally deserved what he got here, right?!

That is exactly kind of what happened which is weird

Edited by Stab Wound, 18 April 2020 - 02:55 AM.

[sosegado]

Stab Wound, on 18 April 2020 - 02:53 AM, said:

That is exactly kind of what happened which is weird

they didn't understand why i was a founder for years and sounded like a *******.

not only did I change computers but also moved to steam.. I lost the very first years as a founder.maybe 1000 more hours..minimum

Edited by Stab Wound, 18 April 2020 - 03:07 AM.

[RickySpanish]

Well hey glad the mystery is solved!

[Nearly Dead]

Glad you figured it out. Having had to reinstall Windows a few weeks ago, along with all my programs, I sympathize.