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[Vellron2005]

Is it just me, or are the matches increasingly stompy of late?

It feels like 4 out of 5 matcehs are one-sided stomps with a 10 kill difference..

This game is in the dumps right now..

[VonBruinwald]

Blame the groups. They're persistent efforts to pad their stats have thrown the matchmaker out of whack.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

Played 4 games last night 11-12, 12-8, 12-8 and 4-12. That’s been a relatively typical evening (in terms of scores) for me since the matchmaker got tightened up some. When everyone got put into tier 3 it was stomps 3/4 of the time. I have only seen 1 12-0
since the tightening...which I had seen a lot (early on) after the PSR reset.

[Brauer]

VonBruinwald, on 24 July 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

Blame the groups. They're persistent efforts to pad their stats have thrown the matchmaker out of whack.

Wrong. PGI adding groups to the solo queue completely wrecked the matchmaker. Don't blame players playing the game for the misguided and poorly implemented queue merger undertaken by PGI.

[Vorpal Puppy]

Things were better for a few days, but it took longer to get matches. Enough people whined, so I think they opened it back up the last couple days. Now the games are less balanced again.

As I have said before, i don't think the matchmaker is even sorting the players it has once it's got it's 24. I know the groups make it tough, but if it used all the remaining players to balance the result would be closer.

[Nesutizale]

It feels like stomps happen the same amout as usual but there are also this kind of games

[Willard Phule]

Yes they are, and it's by design. Why else would they allow 4 man premade groups into QP as well as setting everyone at T3? Seems pretty obvious they're shooting for a 95% stomp rate.

[Bennesto]

Well everyone wanted fast queues instead of matchquality. Deal with it.

[Nesutizale]

Matchquality should stabelise over time. Give it another month to sort thnigs out

[Jman5]

I looked at my last 35 games and it went like this:

• Stomps (0-4 kills) : 11
  
• Middling (5-7 kills): 12
  
• Close (8-12 kills) : 12

Then I looked at 35 games from October 2019

• Stomps (0-4 kills) : 14
  
• Middling (5-7 kills): 13
  
• Close (8-12 kills) : 8

Not a huge sample size, but it doesn't seem like things have gotten worse. If anything they look better.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

Jman5, on 24 July 2020 - 11:06 AM, said:

I looked at my last 35 games and it went like this:

• Stomps (0-4 kills) : 11
  
• Middling (5-7 kills): 12
  
• Close (8-12 kills) : 12

Then I looked at 35 games from October 2019

• Stomps (0-4 kills) : 14
  
• Middling (5-7 kills): 13
  
• Close (8-12 kills) : 8

Not a huge sample size, but it doesn't seem like things have gotten worse. If anything they look better.

It’s anecdotal but even more of the 0-4 kill matches feel like they might well be competitive early. Seems like it is more the snowball effect kicking in than just guys running in and putting a team in an immediate 0-3 hole. Just how it feels to me anyway...most of the time.

[Willard Phule]

Jman5, on 24 July 2020 - 11:06 AM, said:

I looked at my last 35 games and it went like this:

• Stomps (0-4 kills) : 11
  
• Middling (5-7 kills): 12
  
• Close (8-12 kills) : 12

Then I looked at 35 games from October 2019

• Stomps (0-4 kills) : 14
  
• Middling (5-7 kills): 13
  
• Close (8-12 kills) : 8

Not a huge sample size, but it doesn't seem like things have gotten worse. If anything they look better.

No offense, man, but those are the experiences of a guy who went straight to T1. You made it out of the T3 range quickly. Those of us unlucky enough to still be struggling our way past T2 have it a bit differently. ESPECIALLY when the other team has a 4 man that has a couple of T1s in it.

[Monkey Lover]

From what i can tell stomps have increased in lower tiers and are about the same im upper tiers.

In time when people drop and others increase i think it would go back to normal. Im still not sure how much better it will get with a new systerm. Balanced doesn't mean you will not get stomped

You can watch comp teams stomp each other just one match to another. Just 1 big screw up and everyone is dead haha.

[JediPanther]

I went down to t4 pretty easily. first I use the craptacular spider 5v 2ml lfe loadout,second I played it solo,third I played it as quirk designed by pgi plus the aux tree capture nodes, fourth I've played it during an event when everyone is out padding dmg for event reward and finally I just said **** it and farmed my way up to t3 again in an spl hmg Ember before getting bored with t3 and ran my lct lrm 5 pest back down to t4.

I miss the old pgi employees who use to care about the game before moving on to better jobs. I did notice a new-to-me death mask or head cockpit item. I guess they have some one still doing cockpit items.

[Jman5]

Willard Phule, on 24 July 2020 - 11:37 AM, said:

No offense, man, but those are the experiences of a guy who went straight to T1. You made it out of the T3 range quickly. Those of us unlucky enough to still be struggling our way past T2 have it a bit differently. ESPECIALLY when the other team has a 4 man that has a couple of T1s in it.

No you're right it could be very different at different tiers/players. However I only have access to my own games and I think providing at least some hard data is better than everyone just going off their gut feelings. From my own feelings, I misjudged the number of stomps and number of close games. I thought they were both lower than they actually were. So that should be a cautionary tale to everyone.

Ya'll need to be data hoarders like me and habitually screenshot your end of round summaries.

[Willard Phule]

Jman5, on 24 July 2020 - 01:57 PM, said:

No you're right it could be very different at different tiers/players. However I only have access to my own games and I think providing at least some hard data is better than everyone just going off their gut feelings. From my own feelings, I misjudged the number of stomps and number of close games. I thought they were both lower than they actually were. So that should be a cautionary tale to everyone.

Ya'll need to be data hoarders like me and habitually screenshot your end of round summaries.

I can tell you what it's like for a guy that's plateaued halfway between T2 and T1, since I didn't rocket to the top.

First of all, gameplay in general. The team with the best, or only, 4 man premade tends to win with a noobstomp, regardless of tier level. Having a group of guys that made a name for themselves in FW before it went to crap just makes it worse.

At T2, I either end up playing with a bunch of T1s and better bring my A game or I'm just meat. Or I end up in a group of T3-4s (yep, that MM throttle opening) and it's constant lurm spam. Very little in between.

[Flyby215]

Jman5, on 24 July 2020 - 01:57 PM, said:

No you're right it could be very different at different tiers/players. However I only have access to my own games and I think providing at least some hard data is better than everyone just going off their gut feelings. From my own feelings, I misjudged the number of stomps and number of close games. I thought they were both lower than they actually were. So that should be a cautionary tale to everyone.

Ya'll need to be data hoarders like me and habitually screenshot your end of round summaries.

I've been tracking my performance on a spreadsheet to track personal nightly performance; though I haven't been saving it. I guess I should. I still have some data, and from what I can tell stomps are only about 25% or so in a group; but nearly 75% when I drop solo; mostly losses to boot. Needs more data though, my sample size is only about 70 matches.

I was a firm 'no' to the merger, and still am. PSR rework has worsened my experience so far.

[Monkey Lover]

Flyby215, on 24 July 2020 - 09:36 PM, said:

I've been tracking my performance on a spreadsheet to track personal nightly performance; though I haven't been saving it. I guess I should. I still have some data, and from what I can tell stomps are only about 25% or so in a group; but nearly 75% when I drop solo; mostly losses to boot. Needs more data though, my sample size is only about 70 matches.

I was a firm 'no' to the merger, and still am. PSR rework has worsened my experience so far.

Find that strange because getting stomped when I see you in your group is much higher for me lol

[BTGbullseye]

Strangely, I have found the number of closer matches to be more common than stomps, but only after they increased the matchmaker's tier times. (it got slightly worse when they shortened the times, but not as bad as it used to be)

[Dashen]

Vellron2005, on 24 July 2020 - 07:38 AM, said:

Is it just me, or are the matches increasingly stompy of late?

It feels like 4 out of 5 matcehs are one-sided stomps with a 10 kill difference..

This game is in the dumps right now..

90% of veterans are on autopilot, what did you expect. Without new people actually looking at the minimap we're left with automatons.

If you want a chance at reducing stomps use voice comms.

Edited by Dashen, 25 July 2020 - 12:12 AM.