Final Resting Tier?
#1
Posted 03 August 2020 - 02:38 PM
The problem is this:
The MM only looks at tiers, so it makes NO difference if I am at the bottom or top of the PSR bar of tier 2. So, if I am advancing in tier 2 and still get the same kind of matches from the MM (statistically speaking), I am destined to advance all the way to the end - it is just a matter of number of games played.
Once I cross to tier 1 the MM may (or may not, see below) put me in games against better players and I will drop back to tier 2 - where I will advance back into tier 1...
So, I will get stuck at the tier1/tier2 border, fluctuating between the tiers.
There is nothing special about me, so it seem that after a while the players population will be concentrated at the edges of the tiers and fluctuate up/down between these tiers. If the population of players is low and the MM is forced to draw players from multiple tiers, then crossing the tiers will make little difference in the games that you get and the population will migrate all the way to the edges getting concentrated at the top of tier 1 and bottom of tier 5.
Still better than an XP bar I suppose.
#2
Posted 03 August 2020 - 02:53 PM
But most matches in T2 are with T1 anyway so you probably won't notice much change, other than the absence of cadets.
#3
Posted 03 August 2020 - 03:27 PM
#4
Posted 03 August 2020 - 04:37 PM
#5
Posted 03 August 2020 - 05:24 PM
#6
Posted 03 August 2020 - 05:50 PM
May go back to T1 after a few weeks, just to see if match variety has improved.
Finished Beach Party challenges and feel little impulse to play without an external goal started.
#7
Posted 04 August 2020 - 03:55 PM
Sure they will appreciate it.
Can't tell, switched off chat and voip which is FINE!
#9
Posted 04 August 2020 - 05:29 PM
I couldn't tell coz me chat and voips off
sweet, I mean salty
#10
Posted 05 August 2020 - 12:29 AM
Well I am just fine at T3. Every now and then a good dropcaller even appears or some chattie groups that are fun listing to.
#11
Posted 05 August 2020 - 12:58 AM
They took the last bastion of soloness
And infected it with stuff that killed two other once marginally viable queues.
Geniuses obviously, Go figure.
And the numbers are up, Carona19 must be getting pretty bad.
#12
Posted 05 August 2020 - 06:23 AM
Nesutizale, on 05 August 2020 - 12:29 AM, said:
Well I am just fine at T3. Every now and then a good dropcaller even appears or some chattie groups that are fun listing to.
Tier 1 QP games tend to lack salt as far as in-game voip. Even if somebody does something really dumb at the end to lose a game, we’ve generally seen it all before and it’s just soup-queue (so what do you expect).....tier 1 players seem to save their salt for their twitch streams and for responding to really dumb forum posts.
#13
Posted 05 August 2020 - 06:55 AM
The way the system is designed above average players will slowly rise towards maximum PSR (5000) and below average players will drop towards 0 PSR.
Basically it's a system designed to go increasingly blind over time.
This problem was described and predicted during the discussion, but the model was pushed through by parts of the community regardless.
This was probably the last chance to get better matchmaking before the game dies and unfortunately it was completely blown in favour of petty politics, a damn shame but it is what it is.
Edited by Sjorpha, 05 August 2020 - 06:57 AM.
#14
Posted 05 August 2020 - 07:43 AM
Marquis De Lafayette, on 05 August 2020 - 06:23 AM, said:
T1 games don't have salt in VOIP because many of their players don't use comms since you don't need to talk to walk in a circle, because they're in a premade group on the discord and don't need to coordinate with teammates who are just a meatshield to them anyway, and because they're prioritizing talking with the huge crowd of 3 people who form the community of their years old twitch channels.
#15
Posted 05 August 2020 - 10:04 AM
OneTeamPlayer, on 05 August 2020 - 07:43 AM, said:
T1 games don't have salt in VOIP because many of their players don't use comms since you don't need to talk to walk in a circle, because they're in a premade group on the discord and don't need to coordinate with teammates who are just a meatshield to them anyway, and because they're prioritizing talking with the huge crowd of 3 people who form the community of their years old twitch channels.
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#16
Posted 07 August 2020 - 05:26 AM
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