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[spova]

Lately iv spent a lot more time queueing than playing. This compounded with the rest of the waiting in the game really kills a lot of the enjoyment and makes it hard to get serious about the game. Is it really that dead that there is no one to play with any more? Even with the new queue updates that where supposed to fix these issues it take a long time. Does anyone have tips on how to get faster queues?

[Dangit Karen]

There is currently no event. So, many people (like me) have no reason to queue up and wait several minutes for predictable 3-4 minutes of Mech action with the same people over and over.

Advice: Wait for the next event. More people will play, hopefully.

[Heavy Money]

What time zone are you in, and when are you playing? I'm US pacific and I play in the evenings with all regions allowed. I pretty much never wait more than a minute for a match and rarely get more than a couple of the same people per game, even when playing for a couple hours at a time. When queuing with a group of 3-4, we sometimes wait as much as 2 minutes for a match.

Edited by Heavy Money, 18 October 2020 - 04:20 PM.

[LordNothing]

ive had mostly good fp games since the defacto end of the event (when i completed it). everyone put in a few games and it was over. with nothing else to do, meh, faction play and i could grind on a couple bays.

[Bowelhacker]

Try living in Australia...

[Knight Captain Morgan]

Premades: WOOT! Did you see us roflstomp those noobs that faction war match? We are so Uber 1337
Casual solos: getting roflstomped in faction wars over and over isn’t very fun.
Premades: git gud or go to solo queue noobs!
Casual solos go to solo queue
Premades: facing other premades sucks! I’m tired of queue dodging each other. PGI, open the solo queue to us!
PGI opens solo queue to premades.
Premades: WOOT! Did you see us roflstomp those noobs that quick play match? We are so Uber 1337
Casual solos find another game.

Threads like this start popping up and the premades can’t figure out why.

[John Bronco]

Knight Captain Morgan, on 19 October 2020 - 04:58 AM, said:

Premades: WOOT! Did you see us roflstomp those noobs that faction war match? We are so Uber 1337
Casual solos: getting roflstomped in faction wars over and over isn’t very fun.
Premades: git gud or go to solo queue noobs!
Casual solos go to solo queue
Premades: facing other premades sucks! I’m tired of queue dodging each other. PGI, open the solo queue to us!
PGI opens solo queue to premades.
Premades: WOOT! Did you see us roflstomp those noobs that quick play match? We are so Uber 1337
Casual solos find another game.

Threads like this start popping up and the premades can’t figure out why.

The first 4 lines of this are true, the rest is a large departure from reality. It is the casuals that wanted to group with their friends in solo queue, the roflstompers were largely against it. Turns out weak players get stomped in any queue regardless of grouping because...they're weak.

[RickySpanish]

^ Even a cursory glance at threads made by comp players shows this to be true. No organized group wanted the merge, they made many posts explaining why it was a bad idea. Knight-Captain-Not-Quite-Commander Morgan is deliberately ignoring the truth.

[Willard Phule]

Join a premade group before dropping. They get priority over solos when the MM is putting teams together.

[RRAMIREZ]

BlaizerP, on 19 October 2020 - 05:26 AM, said:

Turns out weak players get stomped in any queue regardless of grouping because...they're weak.

Turn's out weak player are in games they shouldn't be in, due to low population and valves wide opened.
Everyone complains and population gets even lower... vicious circle.

Not pointing it as someone "fault" but I don't see merged queue as a "succes"...
When in maintenance mode, you just can say "OK,... hope it will give some additionnal time to the game"
If MWO has a future, I hope this will be reconsidered at the good moment.

[Monkey Lover]

Willard Phule, on 19 October 2020 - 07:15 AM, said:

Join a premade group before dropping. They get priority over solos when the MM is putting teams together.

Even then wait times have been long this weekend for our team. Been some of the worst games I have played in a long time too. My win ratio is under 0.9 . Every game we won we had to fight down to the last mech.

[Willard Phule]

Monkey Lover, on 19 October 2020 - 12:32 PM, said:

Even then wait times have been long this weekend for our team. Been some of the worst games I have played in a long time too. My win ratio is under 0.9 . Every game we won we had to fight down to the last mech.

Imagine what the wait time is for the solos you're getting put into matches with. We tend to wait at least 5 minutes per match, it goes up from there based on population.

That's the best part of T1, by the way. Having to wait longer to get put into the exact, same match with T3 Cadets that we would have been put in quicker had we been T3.

[Anomalocaris]

RickySpanish, on 19 October 2020 - 05:49 AM, said:

^ Even a cursory glance at threads made by comp players shows this to be true. No organized group wanted the merge, they made many posts explaining why it was a bad idea. Knight-Captain-Not-Quite-Commander Morgan is deliberately ignoring the truth.

To be fair to Knight, while it wasn't the comp guys and top units that wanted the merge, the sh*t groups they were playing against in Faction or Group queue did want it (along with guys like that Larsh fellow who felt that playing bad with friends was much more enjoyable than playing bad alone - say, what happened to him?). Those crap groups had fun when playing against small groups or solos, but when it was just them vs. top teams they got the living tar beat out of em. Some of them are just good enough that they can dominate against a bunch of potatoes solo, while the rest tend to drag their teams down.

Regardless, it ruined the whole queue. Pointing fingers now, while cathartically satisfying on some level, doesn't fix the problem.

[Schwarzklang]

Dangit Karen, on 18 October 2020 - 01:47 PM, said:

There is currently no event. So, many people (like me) have no reason to queue up and wait several minutes for predictable 3-4 minutes of Mech action with the same people over and over.

Advice: Wait for the next event. More people will play, hopefully.

Why not starting playing for what it is? The normal ques is still as fun as 6 years ago.

[Monkey Lover]

Willard Phule, on 19 October 2020 - 01:07 PM, said:

Imagine what the wait time is for the solos you're getting put into matches with. We tend to wait at least 5 minutes per match, it goes up from there based on population.

That's the best part of T1, by the way. Having to wait longer to get put into the exact, same match with T3 Cadets that we would have been put in quicker had we been T3.

Ya that's not good at all when wait times hit over 10 minutes in group q it basically died.