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[Sean Lang]

Sound ver: HERE

[w0qj]

Anyone can take the time to help do a simple transcription of what was said?

45 minutes of podcast listening for everyone is 45 minutes lost in playing MWO !!

Thank you in advance!

[ingramli]

It seems the new marketing manager's main role is produce a lackluster podcast on weekly basis......

oh I saw the TLDR from someone who was willing to scarifice his time to make it happen, here you go....

00:00 Trying to skip the beard talk
03:36 Cadet and tier starting issues
14:44 Discussing the outline/what isn't on the list
18:23 People think there is too much talk going on?
22:40 Townhall coming up?
27:40 Work schedules and Coffee
29:47 Beard Talk

Edited by ingramli, 17 November 2020 - 09:08 PM.

[The Lighthouse]

My god, so even things like Cadet there are still "internal debate" going on.

[Kotzi]

Dunno man. I really dont understand this situation. Did Russ wake up one day and instantly realized that MWO was dying? It seems like there is absolutely nothing coming or had been planned previously from PGI to fight this ongoing trend all the years. Now, when the new DLC needs to be promoted, PGI comes around the corner and "asks" the community what can be done. All this talking does not really encourage me to do anything actually. But hey, i can wait.

[ingramli]

Kotzi, on 17 November 2020 - 11:50 PM, said:

Dunno man. I really dont understand this situation. Did Russ wake up one day and instantly realized that MWO was dying? It seems like there is absolutely nothing coming or had been planned previously from PGI to fight this ongoing trend all the years. Now, when the new DLC needs to be promoted, PGI comes around the corner and "asks" the community what can be done. All this talking does not really encourage me to do anything actually. But hey, i can wait.

The situation is stale. Russ and PGI are asking for ideas for "low hanging fruit", those can bring them $$$ with minimum viable effort, they make podcast weeks after weeks because they haven't found one (yet), my thoughts is, they are not going to find one (because it just doesn't exist, no more easy money from the community after repeated disappointment since 2013) and they may realize it weeks or months later, and decided to shutdown the server at last.

As always, enjoy the game while you (still) can.

Edited by ingramli, 18 November 2020 - 12:11 AM.

[martian]

Can anyone post a text version, please? Thanks.

And by the way, if it's an official PGI info, then I would say that it should be posted by Daeron Katz in Developer Vlogs

And if it's just a fan made podcast, then it should be posted in Fan Art which is the place for fan podcasts and streamings.

[Thorqemada]

MWO once was that famous it had its own "Risitas":

Lets hope they manage to get there again!

[Monkey Lover]

This is what you're fighting right here. Every new map,every balance change, new tech, new modes, news mechs and events never really did much.

What can be done to flip this around?

[Willard Phule]

Monkey Lover, on 18 November 2020 - 04:51 AM, said:

This is what you're fighting right here. Every new map,every balance change, new tech, new modes, news mechs and events never really did much.

What can be done to flip this around?

The real question is, what makes you think PGI wants to "turn it around?" That steadily falling graphic represents years of bad decisions and poorly implemented "improvements." One would think simply by looking at the empirical evidence that they don't want to "turn it around" and are quite content with the way things are going.

[selfish shellfish]

martian, on 18 November 2020 - 12:25 AM, said:

Can anyone post a text version, please? Thanks.

My lazy Soundcloud transcript:

4:30 - minutes:
They placed new players at Tier3 in order to not have Tier1 players creating alt accounts and troll them at Tier5 matches...

Argument against starting new players at tier 5 or 4:
Everyone can create an alt account and go seal clubbing.

Starting new players at Tier 3:
You don't need to create an alt account to seal club.

Daeron working on it very hard and believes Tier 4.5 would be good for new players but there is internal debate / (resistance)...

14:30 - minutes:
Not enough population for separate group/solo queues.

15:30 - minutes:
Split up patches quarterly. Several updates (four?) in 2021. If population increases they may consider separating solo/group at some point in 2021. Open to discussion.

18:30 - minutes:
Too much talk not enough action but nothing is going to happen until 2021 so talk is all there is to do until then.

19:40 - minutes:
PGI has a process. They work slow and have a several month backlog delay before work on a new feature/suggestion can even begin. Their system has been developed over the past 20 years and is not going to change. "They do things the way they do. They have a process. It is what it is..."

23:30 - minutes:
Townhall meeting early December at the earliest.

24:00 - minutes:
"Can we get the Mackie?" No you can't... shut up about it!

24:45 - minutes:
Townhall talk about the remaining issues that needs to be hashed out and maybe comments from the devs.

[Knight Captain Morgan]

TL:DR we had to protect cadets fro top tier troll accounts by feeding them directly to top tier main accounts. We had to merge solo queue due to low population but we also have to NOT merge Solaris brackets due to low population...

[martian]

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

My lazy Soundcloud transcript:
....

Thank you very much!

He should simply sit down to his PC, summarize all what Russ Bullock told him, and then simply post it on the forums.

[InvictusLee]

Thorqemada, on 18 November 2020 - 04:41 AM, said:

MWO once was that famous it had its own "Risitas":

Lets hope they manage to get there again!

i enjoyed every second of that. Brilliant sub work. Brilliant!

[Spheroid]

I would have rescheduled this interview for a later date. Daeron had what appeared to be a mini-rage storm later in the interview.

If it was bad time to do an interview NGNG could have easily accommodated a later date.

Edited by Spheroid, 18 November 2020 - 11:13 AM.

[w0qj]

I think they are referring to MW5: "we have several months of backlog"

Lockheed_, on 18 November 2020 - 09:30 AM, said:

...
-> I listen to the podcast. I have not changed my mind. Talked with a friend who works in game development too and he basically said the same. we have several months of backlog -> "I would say then you need to slap your production manager around a little"
...

Edited by w0qj, 18 November 2020 - 02:38 PM.

[Thorqemada]

Monkey Lover, on 18 November 2020 - 04:51 AM, said:

This is what you're fighting right here. Every new map,every balance change, new tech, new modes, news mechs and events never really did much.

What can be done to flip this around?

The Thing is from Season 17 to 22 there is a significant Up-spike that could indicate a growth - every big downspike after that coincides with some decisonmaking...

Edited by Thorqemada, 18 November 2020 - 08:26 PM.

[Joshua McEvedy]

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

"They do things the way they do. They have a process. It is what it is..."

And that concisely sums up the last seven years.

[martian]

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

My lazy Soundcloud transcript:


4:30 - minutes:

They placed new players at Tier3 in order to not have Tier1 players creating alt accounts and troll them at Tier5 matches...


Argument against starting new players at tier 5 or 4:

Everyone can create an alt account and go seal clubbing.


Starting new players at Tier 3:

You don't need to create an alt account to seal club.


Daeron working on it very hard and believes Tier 4.5 would be good for new players but there is internal debate / (resistance)...

As if there are scores of Tier 1 players waiting to club Tier 5 players ...

As it stands, Tier 1 players can club Tier 3 level players with Tier 5 skill level anyway; I am not talking about some average players, but about really bad players. Many of them are Tier 5 material who has not managed to drop to Tier 5 yet (typically because of playing infrequently).

Especially if Tier 1 players form a premade group before they drop.

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

14:30 - minutes:

Not enough population for separate group/solo queues.

Has not Russ Bullock realized how many old and new players left MWO because of that damned merge? How many players have left because they did not like to be food for premades?

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

15:30 - minutes:

Split up patches quarterly. Several updates (four?) in 2021. If population increases they may consider separating solo/group at some point in 2021. Open to discussion.

Great! Firstly he drives away both old and new players with his merging of Solo/Group queue, with his abandoning of tonnage limits, and with feeding fresh Cadets in unskilled 'Mechs and horrible builds to premade groups composed of veteran Tier 1 players piloting optimized and fully mastered 'Mechs
AND THEN he wonders why he does not have enough players in MWO?

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

18:30 - minutes:

Too much talk not enough action but nothing is going to happen until 2021 so talk is all there is to do until then.

So another few months of MWO hemorrhaging players? Magnificent!

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

19:40 - minutes:

PGI has a process. They work slow and have a several month backlog delay before work on a new feature/suggestion can even begin. Their system has been developed over the past 20 years and is not going to change. "They do things the way they do. They have a process. It is what it is..."

"They have a process." LOL


They will work on their processes until they find out that they have processes, but no players.

PGI is a small company, only slighly better than some indie company group. We are not talking about corporations with a big and convoluted corporate hierarchy like Boeing, Microsoft or Northrop Grumman here.

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

23:30 - minutes:

Townhall meeting early December at the earliest.


24:45 - minutes:

Townhall talk about the remaining issues that needs to be hashed out and maybe comments from the devs.

Better it should not be a Town Hall with two hours of meaningless talk.

selfish shellfish, on 18 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

24:00 - minutes:

"Can we get the Mackie?" No you can't... shut up about it!

WTF? I can't remember anyone on this forum asking for this junk 'Mech recently. (although I admit that maybe I missed some lonely voice). Why even bring this about?

Edited by martian, 21 November 2020 - 06:12 AM.

[selfish shellfish]

martian, on 21 November 2020 - 06:10 AM, said:

WTF? I can't remember anyone on this forum asking for this junk 'Mech recently. (although I admit that maybe I missed some lonely voice). Why even bring this about?

I can...
https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__6358540

edit:
To be fair it was mentioned jokingly by Daeron as someone (not me) has been bombarding him with questions about the Mackie.

Edited by selfish shellfish, 21 November 2020 - 08:08 AM.