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#41 VonBruinwald

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Posted 27 November 2020 - 03:10 AM

Tube for tube IS LRMS are better. but they pay for it in weight.

On smaller mechs where tonnage is an issue cLRMs are superior.
On larger mechs where tonnage isn't an issue IS LRMS are superior.

The tipping point is around the 70 ton mark. So basically, the only mechs worth taking IS LRMS on are assaults, and if you're taking LRM's on an assault...

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#42 The pessimistic optimist

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Posted 27 November 2020 - 07:11 AM

View PostShiverMeRivets, on 27 November 2020 - 01:50 AM, said:

For a fast clan mech with JJs, ATMs are far better than LRMs. Clan LRMs are for big slow mech that can boat a shitload of them. Clan LRMs are bad, but they compensate by bringing a ridiculous amount of tubes, and blot out the sun with their endless missile stream.


Yup Orion IIC A with 4x20 LRMs and Ultra AC 10 is a good clan LRM mech but because it's got 80 tubes so yea they get good when boated

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 November 2020 - 07:12 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2020 - 07:35 AM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 27 November 2020 - 03:10 AM, said:

Tube for tube IS LRMS are better. but they pay for it in weight.

On smaller mechs where tonnage is an issue cLRMs are superior.
On larger mechs where tonnage isn't an issue IS LRMS are superior.

The tipping point is around the 70 ton mark. So basically, the only mechs worth taking IS LRMS on are assaults, and if you're taking LRM's on an assault...


Also yea clan can do smaller more mobile LRM mechs easily that have a lot of tubes. Like 60 ton Maddog only 5 tons from a medium but carry 70 tubes still have tonnage for lasers and tag. Archers,Catapults and Orion can do IS LRM well but those are quirked up the A S S. As far as putting LRM on assaults it works out fine yea only need two good missile boats assault to do the LRM work. The rest can go on direct fire.

Edited by SirSmokes, 28 November 2020 - 07:57 AM.


#44 General Solo

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Posted 27 November 2020 - 09:17 PM

FYI, Clans are the mech master race
hence half weight weapons
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Doh clan weapons in general have longer duration, more heat, more spreadly
And in the case of missiles, streamed missiles ezier to ams

#45 The pessimistic optimist

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Posted 28 November 2020 - 08:01 AM

View PostOZHomerOZ, on 27 November 2020 - 09:17 PM, said:

FYI, Clans are the mech master race
hence half weight weapons
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Doh clan weapons in general have longer duration, more heat, more spreadly
And in the case of missiles, streamed missiles ezier to ams


Makes perfect sense they work differently from an engineering standpoint if you reduce the weight on something that much you going to have to re-engineer how it functions.

#46 General Solo

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Posted 29 November 2020 - 02:36 AM

They do work different
IS lerms use muggle technology
Clan Lerms use Wizard Tech

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Posted 29 November 2020 - 05:47 AM

View PostOZHomerOZ, on 29 November 2020 - 02:36 AM, said:

They do work different
IS lerms use muggle technology
Clan Lerms use Wizard Tech


Not really it obvious IS are heavy because there tube need to be stronger to fire all there missile at one time so they don't rip themselves a part. Clan re-engineered there tubes to fire in stages so they could reduce weigh

#48 General Solo

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Posted 29 November 2020 - 10:24 PM

Its coz Kerensky and the bois went to school in the black
They studied hard made new better stuff
And tested it on each other

Came back to the Inner Sphere for more testing
True Story

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 12:56 AM

View PostSirSmokes, on 29 November 2020 - 05:47 AM, said:

Not really it obvious IS are heavy because there tube need to be stronger to fire all there missile at one time so they don't rip themselves a part. Clan re-engineered there tubes to fire in stages so they could reduce weigh


Still, relevant question

#50 The pessimistic optimist

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 05:07 AM

View PostOZHomerOZ, on 29 November 2020 - 10:24 PM, said:

Its coz Kerensky and the bois went to school in the black
They studied hard made new better stuff
And tested it on each other

Came back to the Inner Sphere for more testing
True Story


Isn't that what I just said they made lighter LRMs

#51 General Solo

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 02:35 PM

View PostOZHomerOZ, on 29 November 2020 - 02:36 AM, said:

They do work different
IS lerms use muggle technology
Clan Lerms use Wizard Tech



View PostOZHomerOZ, on 29 November 2020 - 10:24 PM, said:

Its coz Kerensky and the bois went to school in the black
They studied hard made new better stuff
And tested it on each other

Came back to the Inner Sphere for more testing
True Story


Note that they are different

#52 VonBruinwald

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Posted 01 December 2020 - 10:16 AM

View PostOZHomerOZ, on 29 November 2020 - 10:24 PM, said:

Its coz Kerensky and the bois went to school in the black
They studied hard made new better stuff
And tested it on each other

Came back to the Inner Sphere for more testing
True Story


Committing genocide is not a "test"!

#53 General Solo

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Posted 02 December 2020 - 06:35 AM

Lore was never moi strong suit
But can you deny..
..That the weapons were used and so tested in battle

Details and morality of any battles are up to debate
But the weapons were used, made better, used some more, made better, more using etc

So what I said was correct
In regard to the difference between Clan and IS tech.

The Inner Sphere being so busy, possibly with "Committing genocide is not a "test", hat not time obviously to improve their tech.

If fact they went backwards, techwise, lostec and all that Jazz.
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Edited by OZHomerOZ, 02 December 2020 - 06:37 AM.


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Posted 04 December 2020 - 01:45 PM

Lrms; Just A Tactical Discussion





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