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[Knight Captain Morgan]

[K O Z A K]

so you lost to 3 mad dogs?

[Knight Captain Morgan]

Hazeclaw, on 22 December 2020 - 03:34 PM, said:

so you lost to 3 mad dogs?

a bunch of solo pugs lost to a premade comp farm team... predictably.

edit- #thereisnomatchmaker

Edited by Knight Captain Morgan, 22 December 2020 - 04:13 PM.

[LordNothing]

so you got learned to death by a unit i dont even recognize.

get gud?

judging by the damage numbers this was probably an interesting match.

Edited by LordNothing, 22 December 2020 - 04:26 PM.

[Knight Captain Morgan]

LordNothing, on 22 December 2020 - 04:25 PM, said:

so you got learned to death by a unit i dont even recognize.

get gud?

judging by the damage numbers this was probably an interesting match.

in other words: want to buy match maker for sometime in 2021

[Knight Captain Morgan]

yet another predictable end to another non-matchmaker match...

[Heavy Money]

Now show us the screenshots of stomps without a premade on the winning team. There are many.

EDIT: Do these even qualify as stomps? Most of the winning team is dead in both, and the premade has lost people.

Edited by Heavy Money, 22 December 2020 - 06:10 PM.

[Anomalocaris]

Heavy Money, on 22 December 2020 - 06:05 PM, said:

Now show us the screenshots of stomps without a premade on the winning team. There are many.

EDIT: Do these even qualify as stomps? Most of the winning team is dead in both, and the premade has lost people.

I don't think he said they were stomps. He said the outcome was easy to predict. Two very different things.

Since you are not naming and shaming anyone here Knight, please post unedited results. It's always nice to go look at actual player stats to compare the two teams. You can have equally matched teams (looking at Jarl's list rankings, or just WLR) that still have lopsided results, but I suspect in these matches that the winning team had substantially better players (group or not, but the groups did seem to do well).

[K O Z A K]

those darn F--F and CR8B premade comp farm teams

[PurplePuke]

A lot of pre-made groups aren't that good. Pugs beat lots of them all the time.

[Adette]

You want to talk about predictable losses, imagine having to face real comp teams (game over in 1 minute 50 seconds):

Edited by Adette, 22 December 2020 - 08:39 PM.

[Nightbird]

ah the good ol' ggclose days

[PocketYoda]

I think he's saying they lost to a coordinated team because his team was a mess. It happens its pretty much a daily thing in every single online game ever made.. The issue is the veteran groups know how to play the newbs are struggling..

I'm not at all sure what PGI can do to change it. If they do nothing the population bleeds away due to stomps.. If they ban pre mades in an online game the groups again leave the game as they cannot farm newbs with their friends..

So anyone got a suggestion on how to fix this.. People just do not want to talk and be social in an online game, crazy i know but what can the company do.

[ImperialKnight]

we don't have enough players for any sort of matchmaking to work. want to fix the problem? get every one of your friends and family to start playing MWO

[Jiro Yamada]

Oh man, I was one of those CR8B players, who was in the CRB-27B? We all roll those at some points.

I can promise we're not farming anything, just a few casuals trying to have a bit of fun. And we are baaaaad at the game, most of the unit only started playing at the very end of November and, well, I think my stats speak for themselves if anyone cares to look and they don't speak highly of me.

Sorry if you felt stomped man, I promise you from our end it felt like a tense, chaotic battle, and thanks for not posting a screenie of any of the matches we get stomped in return.

[crazytimes]

Jiro Yamada, on 22 December 2020 - 11:43 PM, said:

Oh man, I was one of those CR8B players, who was in the CRB-27B? We all roll those at some points.

I can promise we're not farming anything, just a few casuals trying to have a bit of fun. And we are baaaaad at the game, most of the unit only started playing at the very end of November and, well, I think my stats speak for themselves if anyone cares to look and they don't speak highly of me.

Sorry if you felt stomped man, I promise you from our end it felt like a tense, chaotic battle, and thanks for not posting a screenie of any of the matches we get stomped in return.

Don't play into his game of "anyone better than me is a top tier comp player".

Groups are a thing. Don't be sorry you're playing in one. It's not your fault MM is set up how it is.

[Jiro Yamada]

crazytimes, on 22 December 2020 - 11:52 PM, said:

Don't play into his game of "anyone better than me is a top tier comp player".

Groups are a thing. Don't be sorry you're playing in one. It's not your fault MM is set up how it is.

Cheers man, to be honest I'm glad to be playing in a group, it's let me bring new blood into the game, who are really enjoying it, in a way I didn't feel I could until the queues were merged. Rightly or wrongly I always felt the old group queue was for, y'know, good players and not the right place for a casual player to introduce newbie pilots.

[Dr Wubs]

Samial, on 22 December 2020 - 10:22 PM, said:

So anyone got a suggestion on how to fix this.. People just do not want to talk and be social in an online game, crazy i know but what can the company do.

Yup, return quickplay to puggers.

Groups need to fight groups. if there's not enough population for that, then play pickup.

The solution isn't to destroy quickplay by turning it into group play because group play doesn't work.

Group play needs to solve group play. Cannibalizing quickplay is not a good solution.

Create 4v4 so groups don't have to wait forever to find opponents.

[Monkey Lover]

Should i start posting the games i dont win in my group? lol Im not winning about 40% of the time should be easy to do.....

Op looks like you only play like 20 games a season? You sure you can tell anything about this lol

Dr Wubs, on 23 December 2020 - 12:46 AM, said:

Create 4v4 so groups don't have to wait forever to find opponents.

We had 4v4 i loved it they removed it lol One of Paul's and the "communities" fixes to CW.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 23 December 2020 - 01:28 AM.

[Crab man with the CRAB plan]

Knight Captain Morgan, on 22 December 2020 - 05:02 PM, said:

<img src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/505109426902925312/791108140069552228/predictable_loss.jpg" />

yet another predictable end to another non-matchmaker match...

Well you messed with the crabbos you got the stabbos.

One of those "Comp farm players" has 10 hours clocked and was playing a battletech canonical build, in direct protest to me and jiro who were suggesting that might be bad.

None of us were even the best performing players in our own lance.

As much as I hate saying it, I don't think any of the 3 of us (or even the CRAB plan) were integral to victory.

Samial raised a good point about communication, that does win matches, but I don’t think you need to be in a group to do that all you need is a headset and a willingness to put yourself out there. I remember that match, I was on open chat coordinating with the last few players on our team to track down the stragglers on the other team I probably talked more with them that game than I did with the crabbos.

Edited by Crab man with the CRAB plan, 23 December 2020 - 08:06 AM.