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#21 Max OConnor

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:04 AM

I'm just curious, whats the take on all of the other Highlander regiments in the Battletech universe?
Like these?
Wolverton's Highlanders

Ambermarle's Highlanders

1st Magistracy Highlanders

Hamilton's Highlanders

Blackstone Highlanders

Canopian Highlanders

2nd Magistracy Highlanders

Are they true Scots too? Which is the REAL Highlander regiments?

#22 Max OConnor

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:16 AM

All bantering aside, I think it would be cool to have the 2 factions of Highlanders, the ones who stayed loyal to House Liao, like Loren Jaffrey's grandfather and the ones who left for Davion. It would be interesting to have a civil war or perhaps a long running feud between the two units. Probably the feud would be more appropriate since the Highlanders do end up in a civil war between the ones who want to tell Davion to stick it, and the ones who grew up under their rule.

Not sure what we would call the Capellan Highlanders though.
Perhaps the Capellan Highlanders?

Thoughts, taunts, naughty words?

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:26 AM

View Postmaxoconnor, on 07 February 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

All bantering aside, I think it would be cool to have the 2 factions of Highlanders, the ones who stayed loyal to House Liao, like Loren Jaffrey's grandfather and the ones who left for Davion. It would be interesting to have a civil war or perhaps a long running feud between the two units. Probably the feud would be more appropriate since the Highlanders do end up in a civil war between the ones who want to tell Davion to stick it, and the ones who grew up under their rule.


And this conversation would be ....?

Trust me if I see your Liao butt on Northwind with Weapons hot, and I will ensure the powering up of my Awesomes PPCs will be the last thing you see.. ;)

Now that said, the year is 3049.. and with that being said. Since Northwind has been part of the Federated Suns / Commonwealth since the 2nd succession wars, so its not like those ON Northwind have been under the thumb of a capellan dictator in recent memory. Yes it was only 21 years since NWH was convinced to to leave Liao and garrison there in 3028 under the FedCom flag.

At least under Davion we have a chance to get our freedom and independance, even if its a small chance. Not something Northwind can ever expect under a Capellan dictatorship.

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View Postmaxoconnor, on 07 February 2012 - 07:04 AM, said:


I'm just curious, whats the take on all of the other Highlander regiments in the Battletech universe?
Like these?
Wolverton's Highlanders

Ambermarle's Highlanders

1st Magistracy Highlanders

Hamilton's Highlanders

Blackstone Highlanders

Canopian Highlanders

2nd Magistracy Highlanders

Are they true Scots too? Which is the REAL Highlander regiments?


Couldn't care less about them.. just because the use the term Highlander doesn't mean they are one.

In this debate, I and the Knights of Ni are only concerned about the lineage and honor of the Northwind HIghlanders.

Which ARE of Scottish decent.. if not they are Capellan usurpers



BTW the 2nd Kearny Highlanders (Of your signature image) are not part of the Northwind Highlanders, they are from the planet Kearny (Which is in FRR / Marik space)

Edited by Chuckie, 07 February 2012 - 08:20 AM.


#24 Petroff Northrup

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:28 AM

I am indeed stuck on a name since there are other non-NWH units which bear the Highlander name in the CC forces so it would be tough to let it be known that we are NWH and Liao loyal.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:07 AM

View PostPetroff Northrup, on 07 February 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

I am indeed stuck on a name since there are other non-NWH units which bear the Highlander name in the CC forces so it would be tough to let it be known that we are NWH and Liao loyal.


Yep.. you can be any one of the other "Highlander" units.. but not Northwind, the NWH are (In 3049) garrisoned on Northwind within FedCom space and contracted by FedCom.

Even if you were a Liao loyalist and one of the original NWH pilots, you would be one grizzled veteran since its been 21 years since the NWH signed thier contract with Davion.

#26 Max OConnor

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:59 AM

Did I miss the election of Chuckie to the office of supreme decider of who is and is not a Highlander? ;) *snicker*

I AM a grizzled old veteran thank you......
I wouldn't have gone to Northwind, I would have stayed behind on Johnathan where the 2nd Kearny were based and protected the people of the Confederation as we swore to do.

and NO Chuckie, the 2nd Kearny are NOT from the planet Kearny in House Marik, Good lord your ignorance on Highlander history is showing. They were recruited from the miners on the Kearny continent on Northwind. Man, I can see the Davion educational system is all I thought it was....

Northwind is composed of three continents: New Lanark, Kearny, and Halidon.

the 2nd Kearny knows what it means to keep our word. When we swore to protect the people of the Confederation, we don't just up and shirk that duty when some Davion dangles a shiny bauble in front of us. There is a reason our motto is Honor Bound. Our word means something even if the rest of the Highlanders find it convenient to keep their word only when it suits them. This is why I am always loyal to the 2nd.

Mirroring the actions of its senior counterparts, the 2nd Kearny Highlanders were formed from the mining colonies on Kearny *The continent* in 2363, and served as one of several Capellan regiments on Lopez and Berenson against House Marik between 2366 and 2368. They took part in the occupation of Demeter in 2761, but were quickly withdrawn to deal with an insurrection on Hsien in 2762. After breaking with the Capellan government in 2761 over a contract dispute, the mercenaries of Gladstone's Gladiators threatened to destroy the Hsein munitions dump and water purification plants if their demands were not met. A midnight raid by volunteers of the Kearny's 1st Battalion retook the munition depot, and the Gladiators abandoned the planet.

The 2nd Kearnys spent the years 2762 to 2802 tracking down and destroying the Gladiators as a demonstration of the Confederation's resolve. In September 2802, the Kearnys learned from the Maskirovka of the impending arrival of the Gladiators on the Marik world of Zion. Borrowing transport and equipment from the Maskirovka Special Operation Branch, the 2nd secretly arrived on Zion ahead of the Gladiators. The Kearnys waited until the rebels completed offloading before they attacked. AeroSpace suppressing fire kept the mercenaries' DropShips on the ground, and the surprised Gladiators, unable to withdraw, were destroyed to the last man. The 2nd salvaged ten Ostrocs and three Assassins before Marik reserves forced their withdrawal.
Since that time, the 2nd Kearnys have had a particular antipathy for mercenaries of any kind, both their own or those of other Successor States. In the defense of Lincoln against Kurita mercenaries in 2802, the 2nd refused to give quarter to Daemian's Destroyers, despite repeated pleas on the part of the Kurita defenders to be allowed to surrender.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:02 AM

View PostPetroff Northrup, on 07 February 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

I am indeed stuck on a name since there are other non-NWH units which bear the Highlander name in the CC forces so it would be tough to let it be known that we are NWH and Liao loyal.


I say we use the original logo to show that we are Old school Capellan Highlanders.
I always liked it so much better than the new one, *spew*

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#28 Chuckie

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:23 AM

View Postmaxoconnor, on 07 February 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

Did I miss the election of Chuckie to the office of supreme decider of who is and is not a Highlander? ;) *snicker*

I AM a grizzled old veteran thank you......
I wouldn't have gone to Northwind, I would have stayed behind on Johnathan where the 2nd Kearny were based and protected the people of the Confederation as we swore to do.

and NO Chuckie, the 2nd Kearny are NOT from the planet Kearny in House Marik, Good lord your ignorance on Highlander history is showing. They were recruited from the miners on the Kearny continent on Northwind. Man, I can see the Davion educational system is all I thought it was....

Hmm..

Need to contact Sarna then:

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The 2nd Kearny Highlanders were formed from the mining colonies on Kearny in 2363, and served as one of several Capellan regiments on Lopez and Berenson against House Marik between 2366 and 2368. They took part in the occupation of Demeter in 2761, but were quickly withdrawn to deal with an insurrection on Hsien in 2762. After breaking with the Capellan government in 2761 over a contract dispute, the mercenaries of Gladstone's Gladiators threatened to destroy the Hsein munitions dump and water purification plants if their demands were not met. A midnight raid by volunteers of the Kearny's 1st Battalion retook the munition depot, and the Gladiators abandoned the planet.

In the 4th Succession War the unit suffered moderate casualties in the failed defense of Jonathan, the 15th December 3028 2nd Kearny Highlanders like the other Highlander regiments were allowed to lift off world to reach their new home Northwind.

I will admit some history is a bit sketchy and back and forth.. and Sarna, they are the ones that state ON KEARNY, and then have a link to Kearny the planet. They of course could have it wrong it is a Wiki afterall. Because under the 1st Kearny they do clearly state settlement.

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The First Kearny Highlanders are the oldest of the Northwind Highlanders formations, formed with volunteers from volunteers mining settlement Kearny on Northwind. The unit fought early battles for various Great Houses, including of the Capellan Confederation. Its career in these early times were checkered with victories and defeats.


The unit first notable conflict was during the 1st Andurien War, where the unit was fighting for the Confederation. The unit was nearly routed on Lopez by elements of House Marik's Oriente Hussars. This route nearly cost the unit its career.

In any case its 3049 and...

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Stationed on Highspire the 1st Kearny departed, after news reached them of the negotiation between the clan elders and the Federated Suns, to their new home on Northwind.

2nd Kearny Highlanders like the other Highlander regiments were allowed to lift off world to reach their new home Northwind.


So no matter which way you cut it in 3049 if you are a Northwind Highlander, in either the 1st or 2nd Kearny units, or any of the other true Northwind units. You are Merc living in a FedCom planet and not a Liao Capellan boot licker.

I swear the Capellans brainwash their followers really well..

Long story short in MW:O NWH is going to be a Merc unit friendly to Davion/Stiener

Edited by Chuckie, 07 February 2012 - 09:34 AM.


#29 Max OConnor

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:20 AM

There is a reason the 2nd Kearny has been treated like the red headed step child, its because we remind the rest of the Highlander regiments of how they broke their word. You either keep your word of you don't, there is no grey area here. They swore to protect the people of the Confederation and they dropped their guns and went running when a Davion dangled a carrot in front of them. I'm honestly surprised anyone would hire the Highlanders again after that. The only thing that keeps a Merc in business is you stick to your contract, period.
Not that we were Mercs, but some people like to say we were, so I'll indulge that fancy.

Even in the module did you notice the only regimental commander that they did not show an image of was Colonel Cochraine? And in the Dark Ages the 2nd Kearny is never mentioned because the writers like to pretend we don't exist. It messes with their Stackpole rewrite of history.

You go right ahead and pretend Davion is your friend, I'll be sitting over here on Kearny ready to shoot the first self important, puffed up, Davion I see on my lawn. And any other boot-licking Highlanders who call them their masters.

You dang kids get off my lawn and stop touchin' my Ostroc!!!!
That there is a piece of history that is, she aint for the likes of you young pups to eyeball.
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*grumbles under my breath about kids today.....*

#30 Chuckie

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:49 AM

View Postmaxoconnor, on 07 February 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

You go right ahead and pretend Davion is your friend, I'll be sitting over here on Kearny ready to shoot the first self important, puffed up, Davion I see on my lawn. And any other boot-licking Highlanders who call them their masters.


Which one..?!? you old coot..?

The location on Northwind or the planet Kearny ??

If your ON Northwind.. I'd like to stop by..



BTW I imagine you as the one playing the banjo.. ;)

Edited by Chuckie, 07 February 2012 - 10:51 AM.


#31 Max OConnor

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:59 AM

I can play a mean Banjo, stop on by sometime, you sound like you have a perty mouth.............. ;)

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 11:08 AM

Squeal like a pig boy.. squeal like a pig..

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:08 PM

Just don't start a pipe fight, highlander style, while streaming it through this forum to the other one. :)

I would be deaf (not sure about the word, is it someone who doesn't hear anything?) for 2 weeks, and everyone else, too. :(

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 05:18 PM

View PostAdridos, on 07 February 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

Just don't start a pipe fight, highlander style, while streaming it through this forum to the other one. :)

I would be deaf (not sure about the word, is it someone who doesn't hear anything?) for 2 weeks, and everyone else, too. :(


YOU mean like this;



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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

Aye, Irish, black Irish, Fill us with ale and we'll beat each other bloody, but you put your english toe in our pub, and and you'll be carried out!

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:39 AM

lol...love the potential for role-playing in all of this. =)

Petroff, I think the name Capellan Highlanders would be the way to go. I have my doubts that we'll really be able to use the name Northwind Highlanders anyway. So odds are we'll be breaking down into regiments. Still, there's always hope.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:49 AM

I'll be running the 2nd Kearny, which would be the logical catch all for the disgruntled, non Davion faction of the Highlanders.
We can even keep the old Regimental Logo to show we aren't cooperating with the rest of the NWH regiments.
It would fit right in with their bull headed stubborn, non conformist attitude that Col. Cochraine has instilled in us. :(

Being an MMO RPG is all about having the role playing aspect. It makes sense that not all of the NWH would be on board with the clan leaders. People just aren't like that. Who wants to join my 2nd Kearny? :)

We can start up a sub faction before the game starts.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:25 AM

View Postmaxoconnor, on 08 February 2012 - 06:49 AM, said:

I'll be running the 2nd Kearny, which would be the logical catch all for the disgruntled, non Davion faction of the Highlanders.


In 3049 I think the 2nd Kearny stationed on Northwind and under contract with FedCom would disagree.. maybe the 3rd Kearny..? The 2.1 Kearny..? The Wish they were the 2nd Kearny ?

Edited by Chuckie, 08 February 2012 - 07:44 AM.


#39 Max OConnor

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:56 AM

View PostChuckie, on 08 February 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:


In 3049 I think the 2nd Kearny stationed on Northwind and under contract with FedCom would disagree.. maybe the 3rd Kearny..? The 2.1 Kearny..? The Wish they were the 2nd Kearny ?


The 3rd Kearny were wiped out along with Stuart's Highlanders way back when HOUSE DAVION TOOK Northwind :) from the Confederation and killed off our women and children whom the 3rd Kearny were guarding. * Sorry I couldn't resist.* :(

Besides, didn't you notice how the 2nd Kearny was always left out of the contracts and jobs once the NWH Moved back to Northwind? Both the NWH and Davion wanted to pretend we were not there, so they just left us alone.

We were probably tasked with protecting the mining colonies on the continent Kearny just to keep us busy but out of the way.
Politics, you gotta love it........

#40 Max OConnor

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:00 AM

BTW, for those interested, my Highlander artist came up with this great logo for the 3rd Kearny. I hope to have it canonized by the powers that be someday. Check out our Osprey project if you haven't seen the pics yet.
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http://2ndkearny.web...albumid=7175604





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