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#41 Swamp Butt

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Posted 18 January 2021 - 06:02 AM

Kick ***, do damage, and don't worry about it... Still sometimes, I wonder how I do 1200 points of damage and not a single kill!!! Oh, damn thieves, thieves I say!!!

#42 VonBruinwald

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Posted 18 January 2021 - 06:17 AM

View PostSwamp *** MkII, on 18 January 2021 - 06:02 AM, said:

Kick ***, do damage, and don't worry about it... Still sometimes, I wonder how I do 1200 points of damage and not a single kill!!! Oh, damn thieves, thieves I say!!!


I hate this, it's even worse when you see players deliberately waiting to secure the kill.

Was sat in a "teammates" Hellbringer last week. Was at 0% heat watching our Annihilator getting cut up by a couple of lights. Didn't fire once until the Annhi legged the flea, then he dumped an alpha in it to steal the kill.

#43 The Jewce Iz Loose

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Posted 18 January 2021 - 06:22 AM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 16 January 2021 - 10:17 AM, said:

In either case it rewards the players who were capturing the objective more than the guys hanging back sniping. Obviously pts from kills won't be distributed evenly so it's perfectly possible to still hang back and score more through dmg/kills but it puts more incentive on the objective than pure kills.


I think I spotted a MWO commy. You are in the exact tier you belong, if you were to get inflated to a higher tier you would get constantly smashed and then complain about that. A guy sitting in a box doing nothing deserves just that, nothing. You left your team to a disadvantage, 12 v 11, for something that you wont even accomplish. Either A-your team rolls enemy before you cap, B-enemy rolls your team then comes after you in odds you will not win. You should be punished for not working as a team. The most overpowered weapon in this game is teamwork.

#44 VonBruinwald

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Posted 18 January 2021 - 06:24 AM

View PostThe Jewce Iz Loose, on 18 January 2021 - 06:22 AM, said:


I think I spotted a MWO commy. You are in the exact tier you belong, if you were to get inflated to a higher tier you would get constantly smashed and then complain about that. A guy sitting in a box doing nothing deserves just that, nothing. You left your team to a disadvantage, 12 v 11, for something that you wont even accomplish. Either A-your team rolls enemy before you cap, B-enemy rolls your team then comes after you in odds you will not win. You should be punished for not working as a team. The most overpowered weapon in this game is teamwork.


Did you just lose a match? You sound upset.

#45 The Jewce Iz Loose

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Posted 18 January 2021 - 06:31 AM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 18 January 2021 - 06:24 AM, said:


Did you just lose a match? You sound upset.


I win much more than I lose, just tired of stupidity. Say you are a broom pusher in a shop,11 other guys work there and fix and maintain high dollar machines. Those 11 guys make really good money, but you as a broom pusher just get min wage. You think its not fair and that the rest of the 11 guys, who have much more skill than you, should all take away from their pay just to make yours even with theirs. Sorry but you want to make the big money....get some skills....commy

#46 VonBruinwald

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Posted 18 January 2021 - 08:19 AM

View PostThe Jewce Iz Loose, on 18 January 2021 - 06:31 AM, said:

I win much more than I lose, just tired of stupidity. Say you are a broom pusher in a shop,11 other guys work there and fix and maintain high dollar machines. Those 11 guys make really good money, but you as a broom pusher just get min wage. You think its not fair and that the rest of the 11 guys, who have much more skill than you, should all take away from their pay just to make yours even with theirs. Sorry but you want to make the big money....get some skills....commy


All 12 people have been employed to sweep the floor. Why would an employer pay the guy doing the job he was employed for less than the 11 who effectively quit to screw in a lightbulb?

Edited by VonBruinwald, 18 January 2021 - 08:24 AM.


#47 MadDach5und

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 05:14 PM

View PostElizander, on 18 January 2021 - 04:59 AM, said:


He might sound angry and annoyed, but the 3x AMS Kitfox is what I used to get through the "500 match score in one game" events. If you have decent assaults, they get ECM + 3x AMS, they tear down the house for you, you get +PSR from winning and shooting down 500-1500 missiles and like +20 protected light bonuses.


There is plenty of configurations to get 'better' damage points - but if that is the ONLY incentive to play, you're going to get an abysmal monotony again of mechs all calibrated to damage - and bunch of pilots all programmed to play hide-and-poke.

I agree there is always a possibility a smaller mech can be successful, and I play medium mechs in Tier 7 Solaris specifically because I LIKE that kind of challenge - but when you glance at the leader board, and realize there are only maybe 3 pilots out of 50 running anything smaller than 100 tons, and almost all of them are near-identical Annihilators, it's pretty obvious that skill does NOT rule - and max damage DOES.

The other symptom of the 'disease' is player behavior - a center cluster skirmish decimates a whole team in 3 minutes, and impatient ex-pilots almost instantly squawk 'foul' of the scouts running the outer edge objectives - instead of instantly suiciding and allowing THEM to re-play immediately.

What is the average match time? I think THAT might the leading indicator of true objectives. A center skirmish rarely lasts over 5 minutes, whereas more external objectives that STAY that way - can go over say, seven or eight.

Edited by MadDach5und, 31 January 2021 - 05:15 PM.


#48 LordNothing

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 05:32 PM

see tower skirmish. mod buried the thread in suggestions where it can rot.





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