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#41 IronWolfPack64

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Posted 10 August 2021 - 12:22 PM

View PostYondu Udonta, on 10 August 2021 - 06:54 AM, said:

Sure bring scouting back BUT only when there's a significant increase in Faction Play's population, which hopefully would happen in the near future from Cauldron changes. The main issue I had with Scouting was that some small groups would queue for Scouting instead of Invasion because they saw a big group join the Invasion queue and they want to avoid them. During certain hours when Faction Play is quieter this leads to less Invasion games because there just isn't enough players in the queue. So no to Scouting for now.



I think the only way to get more people in the mode is to generate more interest through improved offerings such as scouting.

#42 Marquis De Lafayette

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Posted 10 August 2021 - 12:49 PM

View PostYondu Udonta, on 10 August 2021 - 06:54 AM, said:

Sure bring scouting back BUT only when there's a significant increase in Faction Play's population, which hopefully would happen in the near future from Cauldron changes. The main issue I had with Scouting was that some small groups would queue for Scouting instead of Invasion because they saw a big group join the Invasion queue and they want to avoid them. During certain hours when Faction Play is quieter this leads to less Invasion games because there just isn't enough players in the queue. So no to Scouting for now.


I was agreeable to this thinking when they dropped scouting in the first place. I thought it made sense to try to bolster the main queue as much as possible. However, some groups/units used it to build up a group to do invasion (scout till you got 5+ in your TS/discord and go invasion from there) and when scouting went away that way to build an invasion group went away. So, in the end it might helped the main queue as much as it “hurt it”. I get it that maybe some people would want to scout instead…However, at the end of the day we can’t really put a proverbial gun to players heads and expect them to drop the main queue if they really don’t want to. Then can just do a 4 man in qp these days or go do something else and not play MWO at all. Scouting was a very different animal 4 v 4 (mediums and light) than the main queue and not everyone has to like it….but it was far more popular when it got removed than say Solaris is right now. If some of the newer unit heads want it back because they believe it will help their efforts to get some fresh blood back into FW, I am going to listen to them.

#43 Vectoron

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Posted 10 August 2021 - 05:53 PM

TITLE SAYS IT ALL!

YES PLEASE!

EDIT: Look, you can make it not effect the current games of Invasion for all I care - I just thought it was a fun way to segway into FW! OR you could just changes the rewards for doing it to increased monetary rewards for the current conflict in general rather than giving a flat our combat bonus to either team. Like increased payout for FW victories!

Edited by Vectoron The Black Minister, 10 August 2021 - 07:57 PM.


#44 IronWolfPack64

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Posted 10 August 2021 - 08:26 PM

View PostVectoron The Black Minister, on 10 August 2021 - 05:53 PM, said:

TITLE SAYS IT ALL!

YES PLEASE!

EDIT: Look, you can make it not effect the current games of Invasion for all I care - I just thought it was a fun way to segway into FW! OR you could just changes the rewards for doing it to increased monetary rewards for the current conflict in general rather than giving a flat our combat bonus to either team. Like increased payout for FW victories!



Yes, just bring it back no need for it to have an effect on invasion.

#45 Attercop

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Posted 11 August 2021 - 06:18 PM

View PostYondu Udonta, on 10 August 2021 - 06:54 AM, said:

Sure bring scouting back BUT only when there's a significant increase in Faction Play's population, which hopefully would happen in the near future from Cauldron changes. The main issue I had with Scouting was that some small groups would queue for Scouting instead of Invasion because they saw a big group join the Invasion queue and they want to avoid them. During certain hours when Faction Play is quieter this leads to less Invasion games because there just isn't enough players in the queue. So no to Scouting for now.


How is that any different to what happens in FP now?

#46 TheStranger

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Posted 13 August 2021 - 08:13 PM

View PostJohn Bronco, on 09 August 2021 - 11:53 AM, said:

I'd be real curious how many of you who are asking for scouting back were actually playing it before it got removed. Clearly it wasn't enough for PGI to bother to keep it around.

I played it and so did most of my unit because it helped the rest of the team.

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Posted 13 August 2021 - 08:22 PM

View PostDavegt27, on 09 August 2021 - 08:05 PM, said:


[color=#959595]4) scouting's rule set was so strange you got tired trying to explain[/color]


It's easy to explain; capture the data points then get out alive.

View PostIronWolfPack64, on 10 August 2021 - 12:22 PM, said:

I think the only way to get more people in the mode is to generate more interest through improved offerings such as scouting.


There also needs to me better rewards for small units, and Mercs.

View PostIronWolfPack64, on 10 August 2021 - 08:26 PM, said:



Yes, just bring it back no need for it to have an effect on invasion.


It's whole point was to effect an invasion. Otherwise it's just comp play





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