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[_Magno_]

The original post reads like a predetermined complaint that is ignorant of some of the good and promising news of t he last month.

[ScrapIron Prime]

General Solo, on 05 April 2021 - 07:05 AM, said:

So you say

is that like your superhero catch phrase or something?

Spoooooon!

[MyriadDigits]

ScrapIron Prime, on 05 April 2021 - 08:47 AM, said:

is that like your superhero catch phrase or something?

Spoooooon!

Solo's speaking as a shining example of extreme behavioral toxicity.

[Grus]

@op

I can't tell you, as a founder of this game, how much it has disappointed me... But I'm still playing... fml.

[ScrapIron Prime]

MyriadDigits, on 05 April 2021 - 09:24 AM, said:

Solo's speaking as a shining example of extreme behavioral toxicity.

I figured. but I try very hard not to be harsh to others on the forum. There's plenty of folks that provide that service already!

[My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ]

VeeOt Dragon, on 05 April 2021 - 05:49 AM, said:

i honestly feel i have to defend it constantly on the forums

If you have to constantly defend something maybe you need to take a step back and reconsider your actions.

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Lore should always be considered

The lore is inconsistent so MWO is doing just do, its considered the lore and is itself inconsistent with other sources. There you go.

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its a good place to look for querking a mech or scaling (with considerations to the inconsistencies of course.)

You're right that it is a good place for flavour quirks, but thats it. Flavour scale does not translate well to what is in practice fun and balanced.

[pattonesque]

You can keep the spirit of the lore without adhering to it so closely that you screw up the actual gameplay in MWO. Annihilators and Atlases are slow with a lot of firepower in both the game and the lore, Locusts and Fleas are quick and fragile in both the game and the lore. The exact numerical values of how they accomplished that in the lore do not need to adhere to how they accomplish that in MWO

[General Solo]

ScrapIron Prime, on 05 April 2021 - 08:47 AM, said:

is that like your superhero catch phrase or something?

Spoooooon!

I don't find your arguement convincing, hence
so you say.

So you say is toxic, Mmm, Thats news to me.

I find some groups in soup queue much more toxic.

[General Solo]

MyriadDigits, on 05 April 2021 - 09:24 AM, said:

Solo's speaking as a shining example of extreme behavioral toxicity.

So ad hominem attacks are not a shining example of extreme behavioral toxicity.
Its that what your saying.
That's what your quote comes across as, ad hominem attack, Hurbis etc.

[Gagis]

When the topic is bad behaviour, ad hominem is not a fallacy.

[General Solo]

I was speaking of MyriadDigits quote.
ad hominem is not a fallacy
Indeed

What part were you referring too?
Or was your response a generalization of the topic?

Edited by General Solo, 06 April 2021 - 02:09 AM.

[Der Geisterbaer]

I just wish people would stop referring to things as "ad hominem" when dealing with things that aren't instances of the "ad hominem" fallacy but rather simple instances of someone being rude (even if that rudeness is just a response to earlier rudness by others) or plain insults.

This becomes even sadder when the person first to call out others on (alleged) ad hominem is the person that came closest to actually comitting the "ad hominem" fallacy by attempting to dismiss an argument (and the associated opinion) by saying "so you say" - thereby attacking the authority of the person voicing the argument instead of addressing the substance of said argument.

[General Solo]

Your wishes don't interest me
Just getting solo queue back does.
Your entitled to your opinion but it don't interest me either.

Groups even infest the forums with all the alt accounts, so organized.
Targeting solo opinions, saying alot of things I disagree with.

Hence so you say.
I don't see what your upset about.
Seems like fake outrage to me.

You guys derail a thread over a "So you say."
Not very constructive or positive.

Edited by General Solo, 06 April 2021 - 04:27 AM.

[EnochsBook]

General Solo, on 06 April 2021 - 04:20 AM, said:

Your wishes don't interest me
Just getting solo queue back does.
Your entitled to your opinion but it don't interest me either.

Groups even infest the forums with all the alt accounts, so organized.
Targeting solo opinions, saying alot of things I disagree with.

Hence so you say.
I don't see what your upset about.
Seems like fake outrage to me.

You guys derail a thread over a "So you say."
Not very constructive or positive.

So you say

[ScrapIron Prime]

General Solo, on 06 April 2021 - 04:20 AM, said:

Your entitled to your opinion but it don't interest me either.

Groups even infest the forums with all the alt accounts, so organized.
Targeting solo opinions, saying alot of things I disagree with.

There's a lot to unpack in those three sentences. It almost sounds like you feel that the opinions of others are a conspiracy against ideas you support.

So my basic and honest question... if you are not interested in the opinions of others, why do you discuss things on a forum with them?

[General Solo]

The title of the topic is not answer your questions.
The opinions of others rekt solo queue.
Those are opinions I am not interested in.

So yeah bad opinions I skim.
You don't have to like it.

Edited by General Solo, 06 April 2021 - 05:54 AM.

[PocketYoda]

pattonesque, on 04 April 2021 - 05:42 PM, said:

What’s your idea for making lights in this game viable if they’re significantly larger than they are

Quirks and Armor like every other mech in this game..

Monke-, on 04 April 2021 - 08:32 PM, said:

What is the issue with making lights small? Their tank is speed tanking and the small size is absolutely necessary for this. If you make them bigger you run into two issues, either they become redunant compared to 40/45t mediums or you give them armour quirks and then make 40/45t mediums redundant.

Because they aren't suppose to be that small.. And Assaults aren't suppose to be as big.. Its just accuracy to the core design..

The6thMessenger, on 04 April 2021 - 08:39 PM, said:

I don't mind Lights being small, but I don't think their survivability should be heavily reliant on their size. And they complain that streaks are anti-lights. The reality is that most weapon are pretty much anti-light, Streaks are just the most accessible in the low-end of the player skill, you're actually better off with an HGR against a Flea IF YOU CAN LAND IT.

It could be normalized and perceived to be more fair if every other weapon is just as reliable in hitting that small bugger, and just approach it with armor and structure quirks.

Agreed their size is what is artificially making them indestructible.. when it takes a lance of assaults to kill one and a lance of lights kills a lance of assaults in seconds something is very off.. Lights should not have anywhere near that capability.

Edited by Samial, 06 April 2021 - 10:37 PM.

[pattonesque]

Samial, on 06 April 2021 - 10:37 PM, said:

Quirks and Armor like every other mech in this game..

Larger mechs which rely on armor instead of mobility exist in this game already. They're called "assaults"

Essentially what you're proposing would make light mechs into medium ones

Samial, on 06 April 2021 - 10:37 PM, said:

Because they aren't suppose to be that small.. And Assaults aren't suppose to be as big.. Its just accuracy to the core design..

The core design disagrees from source to source on how large they should be, and if we stuck to lore in this game we'd have everything fire at the exact same rate.

Samial, on 06 April 2021 - 10:37 PM, said:

Agreed their size is what is artificially making them indestructible.. when it takes a lance of assaults to kill one and a lance of lights kills a lance of assaults in seconds something is very off.. Lights should not have anywhere near that capability.

It takes a lance of assaults to kill one if none of the assaults can hit their shots. Plenty of assaults, heavies, and mediums have more than enough firepower in a single alpha to take a leg off even the tankiest light. Also if you get in a position where four lights jump on you and you have no support ... well, I won't say it's on you because of NASCAR, but it's something that generally should not be happening.