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[Andrewlik]

Anyone have any idea what to do with this thing?
It has so many ackronyms, ECM, MASC, JJ, and decent heat quirks
I have played one game with it so far, stock. My experience was being the target of the enemy nascar, overheating due to the erms, and getting my 10 lrms amsed.
JJs helped poptarting, and i could feel the ECM letting me be ignored by the enemy team a bit, but with MASC, the Grand Dragon goes 84 easily, the MASC goes up to 81, I just don't know what to do with it.
Any builds?

[ScrapIron Prime]

I've tried it so far with 3 SNPPC and an MRM20. Meh. Still searching for the perfect build.

[letir]

https://mech.nav-alp...b3a5b8f_TDR-5SS

[ScrapIron Prime]

letir, on 20 April 2021 - 12:03 PM, said:

https://mech.nav-alp...b3a5b8f_TDR-5SS

No, the new 10SE. the one we've been theorycrafting about until today.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 20 April 2021 - 12:08 PM.

[letir]

ScrapIron Prime, on 20 April 2021 - 12:07 PM, said:

No, the new 10SE. the one we've been theorycrafting about until today.

5 energy, 1 missile hardpoint. Missile and heat quirks. Just add ECM in the free space.

[PocketYoda]

TDR-10SE
Its actually quite good.

If you chain fire the lights the Heavy cool down is ready by the end. So you can rapid fire the PPCs if you watch your heat.

Edited by MechaGnome, 21 April 2021 - 07:12 PM.

[Meep Meep]

Best I could come up with using the upcoming changes.

TDR-10SE LL Vomit

[Escef]

I have to admit, I've been having a hard time coming up with builds that capitalize on the mech's mix of capabilities that also happen to be worth playing. MASC, jets, and ECM/Stealth is a terrific combination, but with the T-bolt's combination of hardpoints, geometry, and tonnage/engines? I mean, like all the T-bolts, lose your left side and you've lost at least half your firepower, and the thing is big and wide. Jets are always a nice extra, especially on Canyon or Mining Collective.

Overall, from a build perspective, I'm having a hard time justifying using MASC and Stealth armor. The tonnage and crit slots required for MASC will gimp a stealth build, and stealth armor eats to many slots if you insist on using MASC. I mean, obviously you're gonna use ECM, that's a given. Of course, another downside is the way Stealth armor gimps your heat dispersal, especially on a mech with 5 energy points, 1 missile point, and no ballistics.

Can't help but feel that this is one of those mechs that in order to be useful you have to surrender something from its bag of tricks.

[justcallme A S H]

There are options on the table that are solid.

TDR-10SE ERPPC
TDR-10SE SNPPC
TDR-10SE LPPC

[Heavy Money]

I've found 5xLPPC to be a lot of fun.

[Valpone]

I have had a little fun with one MRM 40, one snub and a er medium las. Full jj ecm and masc a sort of ambush hunter.. like the mrm above the cockpit. However I think I will continue to search for a good build. Most builds are hot. Has anyone tried a stealth t bolt?

[ScrapIron Prime]

Lockheed_, on 20 April 2021 - 11:13 PM, said:

I tried 3 PPC, 2 ML, no MASC, but Ash's ERPPC build looks much better.

Yeah, but with those LT hardpoints, it doesn't peek so much as circle at extreme range.

and I tried 3 snubs already, didn't sit well with me. but i WILL find a lovable build for this, darn it.

[w0qj]

The TDR-10SE is a FUN mech to play with, and you can equipment almost anything you want (except Ballistics).
So you can customize your mech experience to almost anything you wish for!

I'm partial towards 5xLL or 4xLL with ECM+MASC for peeking and poking.


ECM grants you 1st strike capability.
MASC really helps you to retreat quickly, and/or reposition for your next strike.
The April-20-2021 PSR/Gulag/Cauldron patch for MASC really helps in this regard!

Think the key here is to realize that TDR is 65tons, and in order fit in all these goodies in there, you would have to compromise on at least 1 of the 4 areas:
~full weapons suite + full heat sinks
~ECM (1.5ton) ==> recommended (otherwise go for TDR-9SE or Top Dog!!)
~JJ (4ton)
~MASC (3ton)

And I wish that TDR-10SE had 2x Missile hardpoints to help diversify gameplay (how about 2x Streaks and less lasers?).

Cannot wait until Gulag/Cauldron upcoming mobility patch, perhaps TDR-10SE can JJ around even more

It's a FUN mech

Edited by w0qj, 21 April 2021 - 04:42 PM.

[w0qj]

On my TDR-5S did successfully use MRM40 + 5xMPL (Medium Pulse Lasers) to great effect!

On my TDR-10SE, did not try Stealth Armor, because with TDR-10SE it's difficult to knock out opponents in 1-2 volleys.
And using Stealth Armor almost precludes JJ use by default.

Valpone, on 21 April 2021 - 11:21 AM, said:

I have had a little fun with one MRM 40, one snub and a er medium las. Full jj ecm and masc a sort of ambush hunter.. like the mrm above the cockpit. However I think I will continue to search for a good build. Most builds are hot. Has anyone tried a stealth t bolt?

[justcallme A S H]

Oh there was also another I forgot about

TDR-10SE MRM30/MPL

Or you can XL it TDR-10SE

[AlphaStrikeFire]

MRM40 + 5 Med/ER med lasers. ECM, MASC, and AMS or JJs. You need to strip a bit of armor to fit that all in, but it has a 65 alpha burst. DO NOT include Stealth Armor, not enough space for the MRM40, and you will overheat like crazy. Doesn’t have ballistic hardpoint(s) for Gauss + Stealth Armor combo. However, can make a really joking build with BAP, MASC, ECM, AMS, and Artemis on. Funny since it has all of the little green highlights under it, but not very effective.

I will attach links for the builds later.

[Nightbird]

Fought against some 10SE mechs, I don't recommend XL since they all died to ST loss. The CT is small on a thunderbolt.

[Alexander of Macedon]

This TDR-10SE(S) build is what I've been running. You have to play it very aggressively and go heavy into firepower on your skill tree.

I really don't think that XL can be viable, it's just too easy to lose a ST on it and you're practically obliged to use your RT as a shield.

[Brizna]

I tried two builds both with JJs and ECM but no MASC.

5 Medium Lasers + MRM 30
3 Light PPCs + 2 Snubs

I favour the second one, lower DPS but higher deadliness.

Anyway, I am sure I cna find something better. So I will keep looking for a better build.

[James Hawker]

Brizna, on 23 April 2021 - 11:53 AM, said:

Anyway, I am sure I cna find something better. So I will keep looking for a better build.

3x ERPPC. I'm pulling 300-400 damage in an average game, keeps MASC and 4 JJs. Load up in the left torso and shield with right.