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[BoredOuttaMeNut]

Had quite a few games lately where an ECM light mech has gotten close to me and all of a sudden I can't get locks even when pointing tag directly at another enemy in clear line of site.

Couldn't see anything in the patch notes about TAG.

[Gagis]

Stealth armour does it

[Ignatius Audene]

TAG doesnt work if u are under low signal status. Ppc hit, bap or uav should help.

[w0qj]

You can also overcome this by an undocumented but well known work-around: Equip BAP (Beagle Active Probe) on your LRM mech. When ECM enemy is in your area and disrupt your sensors, you still can target and shoot off LRM at other enemies!

BoredOuttaMeNut, on 06 June 2021 - 03:06 AM, said:

Had quite a few games lately where an ECM light mech has gotten close to me and all of a sudden I can't get locks even when pointing tag directly at another enemy in clear line of site.

Couldn't see anything in the patch notes about TAG.

[Khobai]

tag is countered by ecm. it wont work if youre inside the ecm field.


also I think they need to change bap so it counters stealth armor at longer range. stealth armor has gotten completely ridiculous lately.

detecting mechs that dont want to be detected is the entire purpose of bap. and the bloodhound active probe should exist in the current MWO timeline.

I would love to see an information warfare overhaul for the game.

Edited by Khobai, 06 June 2021 - 04:09 AM.

[Remover of Obstacles]

If the enemy has stealth, I don't think UAVs or BAP help.

[BoredOuttaMeNut]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

The Wiki says:
"TAG'ing a 'Mech within an ECM field allows targeting of even the ECM carrying 'Mech."

So what I gather from what you guys are saying is:

- if you yourself are also within the enemy's ECM field it works differently than if you are just targeting an ememy mech that is inside an ECM field

- stealth armor also beats TAG

- Adding BAP might help

[Rosarius]

Stealth armour doesn't beat TAG, nor does TAG outright cancel stealth. TAGing a mech who has stealth armour allows the TAG holder to target the stealth mech for as long as the TAG is on the stealth mech.

Edited by Rosarius, 06 June 2021 - 05:50 PM.

[Heavy Money]

BoredOuttaMeNut, on 06 June 2021 - 05:40 PM, said:

Thanks for the replies everyone.

The Wiki says:
"TAG'ing a 'Mech within an ECM field allows targeting of even the ECM carrying 'Mech."

So what I gather from what you guys are saying is:

- if you yourself are also within the enemy's ECM field it works differently than if you are just targeting an ememy mech that is inside an ECM field

- stealth armor also beats TAG

- Adding BAP might help

1) ECM reduces the range at which you can lock a target.
2) ECM also jams sensors within its radius (Low Signal.)
3) Stealth makes it so you cannot be locked regardless of range. (and stealth mechs always have ECM too of course.)

TAG gets you around 1 and 3, but not 2.
Active Probe gets you around 2, but doesn't change 1 and 3.
ECM set on Counter cancels out 2.

[LordNothing]

never liked this game's tag implementation. mwll made it fun.