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[Raific]

Hey All,

Just getting back in into MWO after a year or so out. I have really been enjoying my venture back so figured I would support the company and invest some money.

Then I saw the price of the "Evolution" package that I was interested in. 55 bucks for 1 set of Mech Variants? That is the cost of a full Triple A game! Don't get me wrong, I have no problem spending 55 bucks on the game since they deserve it and I know many people won't spend a dime but that is crazy! I did buy the Phoenix Hawk package and MC way back but guess I forgot the price.

I am a Network Engineer and nothing to do with business but why wouldn't they try to trickle money from people over time? So you don't have to feel so guilty for buying? Again, I have been out of the game for a long time so maybe there are good reasons for the silly cost for so little. Please enlighten me.

And for the super fans, I admit my ignorance so no need to flame me. a teaching lesson would be just fine.

[martian]

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 10:24 AM, said:

Hey All,

Just getting back in into MWO after a year or so out.

Hello!

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 10:24 AM, said:

I have really been enjoying my venture back so figured I would support the company and invest some money.

Then I saw the price of the "Evolution" package that I was interested in. 55 bucks for 1 set of Mech Variants? That is the cost of a full Triple A game! Don't get me wrong, I have no problem spending 55 bucks on the game since they deserve it and I know many people won't spend a dime but that is crazy! I did buy the Phoenix Hawk package and MC way back but guess I forgot the price.

I am a Network Engineer and nothing to do with business but why wouldn't they try to trickle money from people over time? So you don't have to feel so guilty for buying? Again, I have been out of the game for a long time so maybe there are good reasons for the silly cost for so little. Please enlighten me.

The explanation is simple: Russ Bullock has never quite grasped the concept of "micro-transactions". This is pretty funny because this concept is something the majority of so called free-to-play games is based upon.

I agree that many MWO 'Mech packs (sometimes years old) are priced quite ridiculously. For the cost of some 'Mech packs one could buy the entire PC game ....

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 10:24 AM, said:

Please enlighten me.

The best thing that you can do is to wait for some 'Mech Pack sale. There is really nothing else you can do.

In theory you could wait for MC sale and then buy a 'Mech that you want, but that would be just adding one unneeded step.

[Raific]

Thanks Mate. I want to support the game since I have been having fun but don't want to feel like I buying a Pinto for the price of a Ferrari. I will take your advice and wait for a good sale. I know the Micro-Transaction game is to have crazy high prices so when they drop it, people feel like they are getting a good deal. Just frustrating and scummy sales tactics. Guess I have to just get with the times and accept.

But, damn, that Shugo Hatamoto-Chi looks AWESOME!

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Just buy some MC and get the Shugo in the next sale or go for the basic pack at 20$

[Spheroid]

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 10:24 AM, said:

I have no problem spending 55 bucks on the game since they deserve it

How do they deserve it? This game has been in maintainence mode for years. Why not make a donation to modders, they are providing more and better Battletech content for free this this for alleged for profit company.

The entire history of this license agreement has been one of theft. Their original publisher IGP stole the founders money which amounted to millions of dollars and promptly went out of business. Later more money was again misallocated for the failed Transverse project and all these subsequent mechpack monies went into MW5, not MWO.

If you reward them, they certainly won't reward you.

Edited by Spheroid, 06 July 2021 - 11:39 AM.

[martian]

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 10:52 AM, said:

I will take your advice and wait for a good sale.

Sooner or later your time will come.

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 10:52 AM, said:

But, damn, that Shugo Hatamoto-Chi looks AWESOME!

Well, maybe it looks awesome, but you do not see too many Hatamoto-Chis in the game.

[Raific]

Oh no, are they bad?

Spheroid, on 06 July 2021 - 11:19 AM, said:

How do they deserve it? This game has been in maintainence mode for years. Why not make a donation to modders, they are providing more and better Battletech content for free this this for alleged for profit company.

The entire history of this license agreement has been one of theft. Their original publisher IGP stole the founders money which amounted to millions of dollars and promptly went out of business. Later more money was again misallocated for the failed Transverse project and all these subsequent mechpack monies went into MW5, not MWO.

If you reward them, they certainly won't reward you.

I guess I meant more because I spend time in a free game. I spend more than that on beer at a bar.
I do not use any mods for the game. I didn't think there were any or were allowed. Am I missing something?

[Gagis]

They are kinda bad. The hero is popular in solaris since it can do a decent brawl loadout and is in a waaaaaaaay lower division than it should be, but no one plays solaris.

[Raific]

OK, thank you for the heads up. It makes it easier to hold off!

[martian]

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 12:09 PM, said:

Oh no, are they bad?

Well, they are not so great.

And of course, many players wanting to run humanoid 80-85-tonners with (mostly) energy/missile loadouts have already bought BattleMaster, Awesome or Zeus.

And then there is the Stalker ...

[Bud Crue]

Spheroid, on 06 July 2021 - 11:19 AM, said:

How do they deserve it? This game has been in maintainence mode for years. Why not make a donation to modders, they are providing more and better Battletech content for free this this for alleged for profit company.

The entire history of this license agreement has been one of theft. Their original publisher IGP stole the founders money which amounted to millions of dollars and promptly went out of business. Later more money was again misallocated for the failed Transverse project and all these subsequent mechpack monies went into MW5, not MWO.

If you reward them, they certainly won't reward you.

Is there a resource where the folks capable/permitted to mod MWO are listed? I know Navid has done a lot for MW5 and he and his fellows who are putting forth effort toward MWO via the Cauldron, but if someone wanted to make a financial contribution to folks keeping MWO alive and viable, how would one know who to donate funds to, and where would one go to make such a donation?

As to PGI and its history. You are correct. But so what? Many of us complain about their crap stewardship of this IP and their implementation of it via MWO, but many/most of the loudest complainers have been regular consumers of their efforts for years, YEARS. Other than the CIV series of games, no title has keep my interest for more than a few months at best. MWO has kept me coming back for more, for more than 7 years; in that it stands alone. All regardless of IGP, PGI, Russ and his BS, etc. I like this game, and its community, and I want it to keep going as long as possible (up to and if/when there is a MWO2 replacement). If you want to keep playing the game, then they need resources to keep it running, and so I will not begrudge others if they think the devs "deserve" some scratch because they too enjoy the product that I have as well, and for so long. If anything I am grateful that others are willing to pony up, despite the historical shitshow (so I don't have to).

[LordNothing]

some of the more expensive legacy packs need a permanent price cut. repackage some of them as single mech packs. then go ahead and take $5 off anything over 3 years old and $10 of anything over 6 years old.

Edited by LordNothing, 06 July 2021 - 01:23 PM.

[My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ]

Raific, on 06 July 2021 - 10:24 AM, said:

Then I saw the price of the "Evolution" package that I was interested in. 55 bucks for 1 set of Mech Variants? That is the cost of a full Triple A game!

Its not just the base variants, you also get a special variant which is why you'd ever pay that much and unfortunately its not unreasonable priced compared to similar F2P games.

I'd argue that the value of an ultimate pack in MWO isn't that bad honestly.

[w0qj]

Hello Raific, a warm welcome to MWO!

Sounds like you've been smittened by the mech bug, as I have
I came in with dreams of Atlas + Timber Wolf !

It sounds like you've got your heart set on that admittedly nice looking Hatamoto-Chi hero Shugo mech, HTM-SG

There are a few avenues to buy this HTM-SG mech, along with a few goodies as a side bonus...
(May I suggest Option #3, which is the "fastest" to achieve by paying up):

1) Buy MC (MechCredits), and then buy this Hero mech ingame with MC, at regular ingame price of 6,000 MC.
http://mwomercs.com/profile/credits
~MC does come on sale once or twice a year, usually with +30% MC bonus.
~Hero mechs sometimes go on ingame sale at 50% Off (therefore down to 3,000 MC when sale), and these sale comes 3-4 times each year, or more. (In fact, we've just had such a sale a few days ago, but unfortunately just ended).

2) [Edit] NEW
Recently saw the Hatamoto-Chi Compete Collection @US$24, which is a good price point!
You get the Hero + other standard variants.

http://mwomercs.com/...ete-collections

It will come around again, just check this webpage every 24 hours until it comes again!
[/Edit]

Buy Complete Collection of Hatamoto-Chi along with Hero mech.
http://mwomercs.com/...ete-collections
I reckon that it may cost US$50 and never goes on sale, and at that price you might as well buy the Ultimate Collection (see below).

3) Just bite the bullet and buy your Hatamoto-Chi top tier Ultimate Collection at US$55 regular price.
That's US$38.50 during that rare 30% Discount Premium Mech Package (occurs 2-3 times each year).
Reasonable price, as you get two mechs with +30% CBills bonus (Hero mech + Special mech), and you also get 60 days Premium Time also!).
http://mwomercs.com/store


Do have FUN scheming for your Hatamoto-Chi Shugo mech!

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By the way, this game is under active development, major things happening ingame since March 2021!
New mech variants, complete weapons/equipment rebalancing, just had mobility/agility rebalancing.
Upcoming JumpJet changes! Upcoming mech quirk changes! Map changes!
More new mech variants upcoming!

Personally, I have my eye on that upcoming Warden Booster Pack at US$20.
ECM Dire Wolf + ECM Timber Wolf
Pre-order goodies, like +CBIlls cockpit bonus items for a limited time!
http://mwomercs.com/warden

Good times

Monke-, on 06 July 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

Its not just the base variants, you also get a special variant which is why you'd ever pay that much and unfortunately its not unreasonable priced compared to similar F2P games.

I'd argue that the value of an ultimate pack in MWO isn't that bad honestly.

Edited by w0qj, 30 July 2021 - 07:28 PM.

[LordNothing]

it actually pays to shop around and wait for sales. its an old game and those happen pretty regularly at this point. while the store needs more purchase options in the $3-9 range (the $3 urbie is probibly the best impulse buy right now), some of the old packs are so ridiculous that you are better off buying mechbays (on sale of course, pgi should bring back the baker's doezen sale it had for christmas, id buy that now) and grinding the cbills. buying mc on sale usually gives you bonus mc. stack that against your event earnings to fund your hero purchases or mechbays. summer lootbag event was announced today, grind that loot.

[Heavy Money]

Honestly if PGI dropped the prices of these big packs I'd buy all those old Invasion packs just for the I variant mechs :/

[w0qj]

I want my Mad Dog MDD-Prime(I), which entails buying the top tier packs for Clan Wave I & Clan Wave II,
which costs... GASP...

http://mwomercs.com/clans
http://mwomercs.com/wavetwo

Heavy Money, on 06 July 2021 - 08:58 PM, said:

Honestly if PGI dropped the prices of these big packs I'd buy all those old Invasion packs just for the I variant mechs :/

[Cerebus23]

paints, mech bays, cockpit bling, mechs, what isnt grossly overpriced with a game currency whose exchange rate is awful.


they should adjust things down i bet sales do well but these prices are ridicilous.

[w0qj]

If I was doing MWO marketing, I would give a very short 50% Off for all big mech packages (US$80 or above) for just a few days.
And before the upcoming Cauldron mech quirk re-balancing patch.

It's a gamble for players to spend so much $$ for an unknown (and potentially fundamentally game-changing) upcoming mech quirk patch, right? And it would help drum up MWO big mech package sales (US$80 or above), as players might hold off buying such big packages with future unknown mech quirk rebalancing, no?

It's a fair trade in my books

Heavy Money, on 06 July 2021 - 08:58 PM, said:

Honestly if PGI dropped the prices of these big packs I'd buy all those old Invasion packs just for the I variant mechs :/

[Moldur]

The exchange rate is pretty poor, and many cosmetics like permanent paint are overpriced. That said, MWO gives a lot of value in freebies from events. The total cost of all the freebies they give out is likely quite high, and yeah some of that has more to do with the poor exchange rate than anything.