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[Omigir]

Alright, Alright, I know: “Two suggestions in one day!? What blasphemy have you for us this day!?”

Well really it’s not. I would like to see support for a dueling system. Many of us on the forums particularly have our points where we want to beat the living hell out of each other, but instead I think it would be much better to tech it to a battlemech and duke out our problems in game (IG).

If a player has a problem with another, or they just want a friendly 1v1 it would be nice that one could send a request to the other. Perhaps the one issuing the challenge picks the map and the one potential accepting picks weight class or BV max. Perhaps also there could be a wager system of C-bills, mechs, equipment or LP’s that players could place on the match.. and spectators could bet C-bills…

[Red Beard]

I think this would be a good idea. I would not mind wagering some c-bills, or even some custom items that I procured through a faction based discount.

A 1 versus 1 option might also allow for some focused training opportunities. Many of the battles that I have fought have come down to the last mech of each team. One on one systems allow for more singular training methods. Without the noise of battle going on around you, you can focus on single aspects of combat.

Edited by Red Beard, 30 December 2011 - 06:35 AM.

[Omigir]

also, training matches might be able to be set up a simular way. You can use the 'starter mechs' so you dont risk loosing something importiant in a training match.

[Demi-Precentor Konev]

I'm not particularly opposed to the idea, but be aware what this will produce. "NAH BRO F*** YOU, LETS 1V1 AND SEE HOW MUCH YOU TALK THEN." You know it'll happen.

[Omigir]

lahyenne, on 30 December 2011 - 07:23 AM, said:

I'm not particularly opposed to the idea, but be aware what this will produce. "NAH BRO F*** YOU, LETS 1V1 AND SEE HOW MUCH YOU TALK THEN." You know it'll happen.

that is the idea. <if not in jock football like terms>
1v1 is to settle bravado. it serves really no other purpose but to prove a persons indavidual skill agaisnt a single aponent.

Edited by Omigir, 30 December 2011 - 07:39 AM.

[Redburn]

I believe (truly) that some form of "Solaris Arena" will be available...I really hope so.

During the recent Podcast (http://mwomercs.com/...ree-moves-ahead) I heard the word "Arena" used and I inferred 1v1 connection. Of course, I could be wrong. Just have to wait and see.......

[Omigir]

am arena is all well and good, but i think most people who are 'honorable warriors' dont want to be an arena specticle per say, thats why i like the 'choose the world' and 'choose the weight class/bv' per say. makes it seem more like a dual of honor rather than just people being D-faces.

[Tannhauser Gate]

Ah yes. Duels and trials. Let me tell you, they will happen anyway but a Challenge System would be good.

The community will be huge for this game and many of us observe at least some level of BT tradition with duels and trials. For example , most units will have trials of entry for players seeking to join the unit. Clanners (soon to be) will drop in what amount to a circles-of-equals to witness trials.. Really, as long as there’s a reason and we have the ability to drop with two players (and some others to stand by as witnesses) then it will happen. But a well thought out Challenge System would be great and give legitimacy to duels and trials which are all part of BT.

Challenge System rewards backbone and skill:
A well thought out Challenge System would have a positive and stratifying affect on the community. By stratifying I mean that players with skills and backbone to issue and accept challenges will become respected and well known.. a lot more than you think. Why? People love to follow planned fights. Its drama, its your name on the line, its skill vs skill, its personal, its player vs player. The game takes on a whole other dimension.. a meta game in the community beyond just dropping for planets. Your skill and your backbone speak for you and your unit's reputation and respect. Who wouldnt want the chance to defend his unit's good name?

Uses:
There will be players who trash talk. Let them put their money where their mouth is and man up to a challenge.
There will be those who insult you or your brothers and he needs to be put down. You can challenge him. If he refuses, hes a coward and you’ve manned up. If he accepts, you beat his butt and you’ve not only put him in his place but you’ve earned the respect of your unit and anyone following the challenge. If you lose, you still manned up and at least won the respect of your brothers.
You could challenge someone who claims they have more skill or that your skill sucks.. and settle it decisively with a challenge.
And of course, trials of entry and trials of position. If your unit allows, you could challenge someone to a rank or position.

In Practice:
What typically happens is that both players end up sharing the glory. The winner wins glory and bragging rights, wins respect from everyone and defends his unit’s name. The loser also wins respect just for going through with it and they are both cool with each other. The only real defeat is to be a coward and run from the challenge... and everyone knows it.

So yes. A challenge system would add a lot to the game if its thought out well and lets the players use it as a way to prove their skill on a personal level and defend their brothers beyond just taking planets.

Edited by LakeDaemon, 30 December 2011 - 10:52 AM.

[Kalanco]

I actually was discussing this with friends yesterday, a Solaris arena with C-bill betting is entirely viable. The way I see it, there would be a minute or two before a match to allow betting from individuals, the fight happens and then the winner of the fight takes 10% of the betting pool, and the winning betters take what's left depending on their individual stake. For example:

There are bets of 5000, 2000, and 1000 on player one, and 2000, 2000, and 1000 on player two. Player 1 wins, and receives 10% of the total betting pool of 13000, that's 1300 C-bills. The remainder (11700) gets divided up between the winning betters, the guy that bets 5000 would get 5/8's of the remainder (7313), the guy that bet 2000 gets 2/8's (2925), and the guy that bet 1000 gets 1/8th (1462). This actually would allow a gladiator-style career path for those that are good or interested; the pilot gets paid depending on his skill and following, and keen supporters can earn a little cash on the side. It's also zero-sum, so can't be abused.

[Volume]

All they need to do is add the following:

1: Simulator (for training or duel purposes - think Wing Commander 3 and that hotshot pilot Flash who you can fight on a simulator)
2: Solaris has plenty of 1v1s.

Easy peasy to keep it canon, Devs! Chop-chop!
Can't wait to see you in the Coliseum.

[Cong Min Voronkov]

The system should be flexible enough to have anywhere from one vs one up to twelve vs twelve and ANYTHING in between. So if one side is a player short and if both sides agree the battle begins.
One Atlas vs six Urbanmechs would be something to see.

[Dlardrageth]

Nothing against some "Solaris mode" for those people who like that. But allowing for transfer of in-game goods by "wagering" or anything similar? I don't like it... at all. Only opens the door for the RMT low-lifes.

Also... unless those "duels" or "challenges" or whatever are strictly monitored/supervised by PGI, results there would mean next to nothing. Way too easy to "game" that system if not run by a strictly supervised set of rules. And I somewhat doubt PGI will bother to provide the manpower for that. Because, what would be in for them? Next to nothing? Half or more of the playerbase will probably never even use that feature if it gets implemented. And it's not like forcing people to play a duel/challenge is a realistic option.

Edited by Dlardrageth, 01 January 2012 - 06:05 AM.

[BduSlammer]

If it is a duel only way to prove who is better is for each to have same mech with same weapons load out

Edited by BduSlammer, 01 January 2012 - 06:28 AM.

[Omigir]

I dont see solaris as a viable option for a dual. If im on a planet facing another merc corp and I want to call out a single indavidual, I should be able to.

Also, chances there will be equipment/c-bill exchange possible already. if some one drops a wager on a mech match, then so be it. I dont see a need for dev's to have to stick thier nose deep into it. The thing that would make it fare, is the enemy mech is shown before hand, no switching before the match.

[SilentWolff]

Not only just a duel, but simple 2v2's or 3v3's. This is one big thing a game like WoT has got WRONG imo.