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[pattonesque]

Seeing a lot of Atlases with LRMs or RACs (or LRMs AND RACs) on them lately. Folks, the Atlas family as a whole got crazy huge armor quirks and mobility improvements over the summer, please use them as Steiner intended and load them up with weapons that allow you to BOOM-twist-twist-BOOM-repeat. There are way better LRM assaults and RAC assaults out there and you're just horribly misusing this beautiful, horrifying mech by using weapons that require you to stare or don't allow you to act as a wall on which the wave of your enemy breaks.

[Rondoe]

Ok, you pay for my premium time and I'll play my Atlas exactly the way you want.

[John Bronco]

What's wrong with shooting some missiles on the way to the fight?

Please top the Atlas gatekeeping.

[Heavy Money]

Rondoe, on 29 August 2021 - 08:46 PM, said:

Ok, you pay for my premium time and I'll play my Atlas exactly the way you want.

Do you pay for the premium time of your poor team mates when you throw matches with bad loadouts?

John Bronco, on 29 August 2021 - 10:48 PM, said:

What's wrong with shooting some missiles on the way to the fight?

The damage vs tonnage ratio and low ability to help the battle compared to anything else you could run, mostly.

Edited by Heavy Money, 29 August 2021 - 11:17 PM.

[Kiiyor]

IDK... The Fatlas is a strange duckling at the moment. Most of its most popular builds are shorter range and put it in an odd spot in the current long ranged meta.

I mean you CAN brawl in it, but even with the buffs it has, it tends to get eaten up a bit before it gets to Nomming distance, making it's staying power questionable in the Pug queues, where it really does need to be supported. It's also a priority target in most matches, not necessarily because of it's threat rating, but because it's super easy to farm damage on.

And I mean you CAN do the long range thing in it, with Gauss or Racs and missiles, but it's slow to reposition and there are other mechs that do the long range thing better.

A few months ago I would have joined you in the LRM-Atlas mocking club, but with the meta the way it is at the moment, I understand.

[Elizander]

Rondoe, on 29 August 2021 - 08:46 PM, said:

Ok, you pay for my premium time and I'll play my Atlas exactly the way you want.

You don't pay my sub!

Kiiyor, on 29 August 2021 - 11:34 PM, said:

IDK... The Fatlas is a strange duckling at the moment. Most of its most popular builds are shorter range and put it in an odd spot in the current long ranged meta.

That's why I just go with LBX and MRMs.

Edited by Elizander, 29 August 2021 - 11:40 PM.

[JC Daxion]

I think the point the OP is trying to make, If you want to use the LRM's and Racs there are just far better mechs to use.

BTW, you can always go LPL+ac10 for example, or add a gauss and ERPPC or ERLL's if you want to work better in this long range meta. they have a ton of armor to trade with and move decently, especially in the lower teirs they can work.


The game is hard enough as it is, At least play to a mechs strengths, i don't think that is to much to ask in a TEAM pvp game. Build a decent mech and try your best should be the baseline,

[Heavy Money]

Kiiyor, on 29 August 2021 - 11:34 PM, said:

IDK... The Fatlas is a strange duckling at the moment. Most of its most popular builds are shorter range and put it in an odd spot in the current long ranged meta.

I mean you CAN brawl in it, but even with the buffs it has, it tends to get eaten up a bit before it gets to Nomming distance, making it's staying power questionable in the Pug queues, where it really does need to be supported. It's also a priority target in most matches, not necessarily because of it's threat rating, but because it's super easy to farm damage on.

And I mean you CAN do the long range thing in it, with Gauss or Racs and missiles, but it's slow to reposition and there are other mechs that do the long range thing better.

A few months ago I would have joined you in the LRM-Atlas mocking club, but with the meta the way it is at the moment, I understand.

Its been doing great for me in brawl loadouts, but you are right that mid range are less tedious in quickplay. Boar's Head with 6xLPL is really nice right now. So are LB10+MRM builds on the D, and I've even had decent success with HGauss+4LL on the Kraken.

[Curccu]

pattonesque, on 29 August 2021 - 08:22 PM, said:

Seeing a lot of Atlases with LRMs or RACs (or LRMs AND RACs) on them lately. Folks, the Atlas family as a whole got crazy huge armor quirks and mobility improvements over the summer, please use them as Steiner intended and load them up with weapons that allow you to BOOM-twist-twist-BOOM-repeat. There are way better LRM assaults and RAC assaults out there and you're just horribly misusing this beautiful, horrifying mech by using weapons that require you to stare or don't allow you to act as a wall on which the wave of your enemy breaks.

Sure twisty splat atlas is go to build with S-variant but others are not that good at it so they can do other stuff.... my D-variant likes twin RAC5 and MRM30+40... fun dps monster.

Edited by Curccu, 30 August 2021 - 01:44 AM.

[VeeOt Dragon]

i can feel you on the LRM (even as someone who runs a good number of LRM boats i never put them on assaults, then again i also only play IS mechs for the most part. if not for the prevalence of ECM and AMS of the field i would say a single LRM launcher for while you are trudging up to the fight wouldn't be bad but the only way to be effective with LRM right now is to cram as many as you can on a mech) as for RAC well the extra armor makes them more viable. do you really want to face time an Atlas with dual RAC/5 and perhaps some MRM or lasers tossed in? that can be nasty.

[PocketYoda]

I found dual Rac5s work great on my Atlas.. and MPL. I don't pollute myself with LRMs though.

as7-d

Works fine.

Edited by MechaGnome, 30 August 2021 - 03:21 AM.

[Eatit]

LRM Atlas = Best Atlas

Do you want to be the tank and generate hate? Drive a LRM Atlas you'll get the the aggro for sure.

Do you want to look cool? There is no other mech with the handsome ruggedness that an Atlas has on display. God sheds a tear of joy and pride as hundreds of missiles fly out of the front of this Adonis.

The king of LRM Atlas has to be the AS7-S(L)! This beauty has an angel on it's shoulder proving that God loves LRMs. 4x LRM 10, 3x ML, and a Tag make this thing perfect. 100 tons of heavily armored LRM delivery vehicle... who could ask for more?

Play your way and look good doing it. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't or shouldn't. Make your own way and show them how it's done. Nobody can tell you what fun means to you. You have to decide for yourself.

So go ahead and get one of these bad boys, paint it up, put some decals on it and go wreck face.

[1453 R]

Eatit, on 30 August 2021 - 04:05 AM, said:

LRM Atlas = Best Atlas

Do you want to be the tank and generate hate? Drive a LRM Atlas you'll get the the aggro for sure.

Do you want to look cool? There is no other mech with the handsome ruggedness that an Atlas has on display. God sheds a tear of joy and pride as hundreds of missiles fly out of the front of this Adonis.

The king of LRM Atlas has to be the AS7-S(L)! This beauty has an angel on it's shoulder proving that God loves LRMs. 4x LRM 10, 3x ML, and a Tag make this thing perfect. 100 tons of heavily armored LRM delivery vehicle... who could ask for more?

Play your way and look good doing it. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't or shouldn't. Make your own way and show them how it's done. Nobody can tell you what fun means to you. You have to decide for yourself.

So go ahead and get one of these bad boys, paint it up, put some decals on it and go wreck face.

An armament you can fit on a Dervish has no bloody business occupying an Atlas.

If you're going to be the sort of goober who wastes an assault-grade chassis on LRM bloatboating, at least do it on something where you can maximize your launchers and carry some protectives. Not that I'm advocating you do that - while I have no argument against someone carrying an LRM launcher to try and contribute to a fight during the initial chickendickery phase of combat where nobody's willing to get their armor wet, an Atlas that is unable to rock worlds, slay dragons (not DRGs, actual dragons) and put the fear of God into God himself is an Atlas that has been mismanaged.

An AS7-S with four rinky-dink LRM launchers and a meaningness scattering of medium lasers is not an Atlas, it's food for my Black Lanner. And/or any other fast striker that sees an Atlas, of all things, unable to exert pressure against its enemies and desires to inflate their match score by eating the derpy thing alive.

[Eatit]

1453 R, on 30 August 2021 - 05:53 AM, said:

An AS7-S with four rinky-dink LRM launchers and a meaningness scattering of medium lasers is not an Atlas, it's food for my Black Lanner. And/or any other fast striker that sees an Atlas, of all things, unable to exert pressure against its enemies and desires to inflate their match score by eating the derpy thing alive.

A mere forum post of this Amazing mech is already generating the afore mentioned hate. Tank this Lanner that will surely dive straight for your towering Atlas of divine splendor. In his blind hate he will not see the 4 or 5 teammates you're protecting and they will give him the quick death that he so desires. The rage in his eyes will diminish to shame and defeat. Go and proudly do what must be done!

Drive the LRM Atlas!

[Nightbird]

How can maps be shameful?

If you are talking about a giant statue of man, the plural is Atlantes

Edited by Nightbird, 30 August 2021 - 06:55 AM.

[pattonesque]

Eatit, on 30 August 2021 - 06:46 AM, said:

A mere forum post of this Amazing mech is already generating the afore mentioned hate. Tank this Lanner that will surely dive straight for your towering Atlas of divine splendor. In his blind hate he will not see the 4 or 5 teammates you're protecting and they will give him the quick death that he so desires. The rage in his eyes will diminish to shame and defeat. Go and proudly do what must be done!

Drive the LRM Atlas!

lol at an LRM Atlas protecting anything

[1453 R]

Just gonna point out that the quad LRM-10 (lawl) Atlas standing behind three hills eight hundred meters away from the fight ain't getting protected by any-dang-thing. And the notion that the LRM Atlas "contributes" to the fight by drawing enemies to itself so other people can shoot them is so ridiculous it shouldn't even merit debunking. By that argument, a completely unarmed Atlas is also contributing to a fight by being bait. Technically true-ish, but also meaningless and I'd rather have any other possible form of contribution from that Fatlas.

[Eatit]

Do not be swayed by this silver tongue devil. He only wishes to keep you from your divine glory. The LRM Atlas can not be matched by mere mortals in lesser trash mechs like the Lanner.

Drive the LRM Atlas FOR THE GLORY!!!

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

you can always go for an 4x LRM5a Atlas ..
just sayin'
if you go the derproute, you could at least go all the way.

[TercieI]

I saw Ordellus is playing again....