17 replies to this topic

[Johny Rocket]

So you just take away its ability to carry ECM (the entire reason I bought it) with no explanation? WTF?

[pattonesque]

It was a recent bug, DWF-Primes do not have ECM. May want to file a ticket.

[Johny Rocket]

pattonesque, on 22 September 2021 - 04:09 PM, said:

It was a recent bug, DWF-Primes do not have ECM. May want to file a ticket.

I bought it like that 2 months ago. Its in the patch notes that they removed it.

Edited by Johny Rocket, 22 September 2021 - 04:14 PM.

[pattonesque]

Johny Rocket, on 22 September 2021 - 04:13 PM, said:

I bought it like that 2 months ago. Its in the patch notes that they removed it.

correct, they removed it because it was a bug. It didn't have ECM until 2-3 months ago when it was accidentally given it.

[w0qj]

Why not make it like BAS-A vs BAS-B, one with JJ, one with no JJ? (and both with ECM in CT)

I would buy Dire Wolf DWF-Prime(I) and the entire Clan Wave I & Clan Wave II, if only Dire Wolf DWF-Prime(I) has the ECM in its CT. Just like Blood Asp BAS-A vs BAS-B with the ECM in CT, one with JumpJet, and the other without. (I like the MDD-Prime(I) too, but I digress...)

DWF-Prime(I) with ECM & no JJ. DWF-C with ECM and JJ.
DWF-C also has +armor bonus to its CT, as does DWF-Prime.

I myself will probably swap in other torso parts into DWF-Prime so that it loses its Set-of-8 bonus anyways.
I do not like the constraining style of all weapons in its arms style of DWF-Prime anyways.

Edited by w0qj, 22 September 2021 - 04:29 PM.

[1453 R]

The Whale Prime has not had ECM in all of the ~7 years since its introduction.

It got ECM erroneously for two months because of a malf-up with the Warden pack.

Now it's back to the way it's been for ~7 years.

Was this really not foreseen by anybody?

Y'all knew the bug was gonna get patched. it was on their Known Issues page. I even posted about it in the patch before last, and Mark Nicholson confirmed directly that it was still a bug and still getting fix'd.

This should not have come as a surprise to literally anyone.

[John Bronco]

Don't worry, it's still the best DWF.

[T B Kind]

Yep, I was surprised, also. I don't keep up with all that is MW and wanted a DWF. ECM was the decision maker. It's only C-bills and I'll get another DWF later. C-bills are almost meaningless.

_{My IV-4 was MC.}

P.S. I got an Ultra-Violet for half price, so I'll just forget about it and move on.

Edited by T B Kind, 22 September 2021 - 07:30 PM.

[Blood Rose]

Eh, the Direwolf is already an insanely good Mech, packing a metric feth-ton of firepower, even for an Assault. Adding an ECM on top is just overkill.
Besides, it does not mount on in TT anyway.

[Heavy Money]

Johny Rocket, on 22 September 2021 - 04:08 PM, said:

So you just take away its ability to carry ECM (the entire reason I bought it) with no explanation? WTF?

As others have said, you can probably file a ticket. MWO support is usually very understanding of these things.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

I'd just keep it. It's a really good mech.
If you insist on the ECM, simply buy the ecm-variant when it's out for CBills (is it yet?).

[Mark Nicholson]

Johny Rocket, on 22 September 2021 - 04:08 PM, said:

So you just take away its ability to carry ECM (the entire reason I bought it) with no explanation? WTF?

It was listed as a known bug in the patch notes when it happened, and again in the month after when the issue persisted, as well as clearly labeled as such in multiple forum threads here at the time.
We apologize for the lack of clarity regarding September's patch notes where it was listed in with other mech changes instead of bugfixes, where it always should have been.

[RAM]

Blood Rose, on 25 September 2021 - 06:07 PM, said:

Besides, it does not mount on in TT anyway.

Neither does the AS7-D-DC...


RAM
ELH

[Sir LRMsalot]

Dont worry, ECM is currently nerfed by a bug too, so you've only lost buggy nerfed equipment from your beloved DWF-Prime

[D V Devnull]

Fishy Fingers, on 27 September 2021 - 08:21 AM, said:

Dont worry, ECM is currently nerfed by a bug too, so you've only lost buggy nerfed equipment from your beloved DWF-Prime

Apparently, this is one where I am out of the loop. What happened with the ECM equipment which I happen to have totally not noticed?

~D. V. "needs a fill-in on this ECM Bug situation" Devnull

[Gagis]

D V Devnull, on 28 September 2021 - 10:19 AM, said:

Apparently, this is one where I am out of the loop. What happened with the ECM equipment which I happen to have totally not noticed?

~D. V. "needs a fill-in on this ECM Bug situation" Devnull

The patch transfered some of the effect of the ECM skill nodes to the base equipment itself which was supposed to be a buff, but turns out what was edited was just the numbers that are displayed in the mechlab and the actual ECM functionality is hardcoded and remains pre-patch levels.

So ECM base functionality stayed the same while skill nodes became weaker. What was supposed to happen was for the base stats to be buffed at the same time.

[Jugger Grimrod]

RAM, on 26 September 2021 - 08:35 PM, said:

Neither does the AS7-D-DC...


RAM
ELH

True. Also, the 'DC' originally stood for 'Dual Cockpit' and was listed as such before the changes made by the line developers. Now, they are considered merged into Command Consoles per latest TT rules. They are NOT the same things, however. A DC allowed for a Pilot and a Gunner, each using their own skills separately, to operate the mech. A CC was a second complete cockpit, but also has extra command, control and comms (C3) features to allow for field command at the Battalion level and higher. Basically, the Major in charge of the Battalion can ride along and command from the front, and if their Pilot gets taken out, they can even take over and drive the mech themselves.

Now... imagine if we could have a 13th team member riding along in a Command Console, using the Battlegrid to manage their Team using the all of those nifty tools that PGI spent the time and effort putting in? Could make FW fun again, for sure.

https://www.sarna.ne...Command_Console

https://www.sarna.ne...ki/Dual_Cockpit

Edited by Jugger Grimrod, 28 September 2021 - 06:07 PM.

[Horseman]

Johny Rocket, on 22 September 2021 - 04:08 PM, said:

So you just take away its ability to carry ECM (the entire reason I bought it) with no explanation? WTF?

Only DWF-C is supposed to be able to carry ECM. Wait until it's released for C-Bills