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[Maker L106]

So over the past few days a few friends and I have run into an issue where a single ECM mech can stop you from locking onto it even if you have probe AND tag. Seen it multiple times, different maps / games etc: since friday this week.

Is this a known glitch now? or just a change to ECM that is intended? wtf?

[Gagis]

happens if theres multiple ECM mechs. You only counter one of them.

[Maker L106]

Aware, in both cases the ECM mech in question (Night Gyr and Cheetah if my memory isn't trash) was either alone or the last alive in the match. In the case of the Gyr i had a mech with both tag + probe and neither cut the ECM. Hence my confusion and this post.

[Gagis]

Are you sure there wasn't a stealth mech behind you or that the target wasn't just out of BAP range?

[martian]

Maker L106, on 16 October 2021 - 09:48 PM, said:

So over the past few days a few friends and I have run into an issue where a single ECM mech can stop you from locking onto it even if you have probe AND tag. Seen it multiple times, different maps / games etc: since friday this week.

Is this a known glitch now? or just a change to ECM that is intended? wtf?

Well, there was a brief notice in the last Patch Notes regarding some problem with ECM:

InnerSphereNews, on 15 October 2021 - 03:24 PM, said:

Also, this patch includes reverting ECM stats to pre-August values.

The goal of changes to the ECM was to shift more weight from the skill tree bonuses towards the base stats of the equipment to help reduce the reliance on skill nodes for an acceptable performance. However, changes made to the base stats of ECM didn’t seem to take effect while nerfs to the skill tree nodes did. In this patch, ECM and ECM nodes in the skill tree will return to their pre-August stats, until we’re able to do a proper investigation into ECM base stats tuning.

ECM:

• Enemy radar range reduction reverted to 30%

Skill tree adjustments (Enhanced ECM nodes):

• Enemy radar range reduction reverted to 22.5%

So it is possible that there was some glitch with ECM.

[justcallme A S H]

The ECM issue makes it less useful, it won't be that.


OP - You need to get some footage as what you're saying doesn't line up with how things work.

[martian]

justcallme A S H, on 17 October 2021 - 02:15 AM, said:

The ECM issue makes it less useful, it won't be that.

I understand that, but I have heard that the MWO code is a real mess. So perhaps there was some unexpected linkage or something ...

Anyway, the upcoming patch is going to change the ECM properties again.

[Ignatius Audene]

Did you even run bap? Your tag doesn't work if u are under low signal state.

[Maker L106]

Update:

Yes we were both running probe, Both cases near point blank (less than 50m) BAP + Tag. Neither of our mechs were equipped with ECM while the enemies mech had ECM.

However we did some private match tests early this morning and found ECM just in disruption killed everything. BAP / TAG / etc: even other ECM.

Now NARC sidesteps this issue at least.

Gagis, on 17 October 2021 - 12:56 AM, said:

Are you sure there wasn't a stealth mech behind you or that the target wasn't just out of BAP range?

Literally point blank to 50-80m at most in both encounters and the mechs were the last alive on their teams.

justcallme A S H, on 17 October 2021 - 02:15 AM, said:

The ECM issue makes it less useful, it won't be that.


OP - You need to get some footage as what you're saying doesn't line up with how things work.

You know what. I'll work on getting that while I've still got the active premium time up. Will post more about that asap.


[Edit]: Quick test update with arctic cheetah / wolf tests. ECM tested on hibernal 1v1 and worked as intended. I'm guessing its either a specific mech problem which I will investigate when the other guy gets back. So either a model glitch ala stormcrow turnspeed or just a once off oddity that isn't worth the attention.

[Edit 2]:
Tried with most of the mechs and couldn't replicate it. So I'm sorry for even bringing it up, once off glitch I guess. We tried rotating everything we had, maps, mechs, ecm settings with skills without etc:. I mean i guess that's good news really.

Edited by Maker L106, 17 October 2021 - 11:28 AM.

[pbiggz]

film it.

If its a bug, footage will actually help solve it.

[Thorqemada]

It was not a "Stealth" issue?