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[Generic Internetter]

Why do Mech Bays even exist?

The general concept of Mech Bays just feels like a paywall/cashgrab.

Buying Mechs isn't enough, you also need to buy parking spots for them... wtf lol

[Nyte Kitsune]

I already have too many Mech Bays, but thanks for the thought. So instead I will play FFXIV Endwalker.

BTW I do like my loyalty mechs, thanks.

[Ch_R0me]

Ok, seems like I have to ditch this event away (mental health issues).

Good that I have what I've wanted for anyway, so take care and be happy

Edited by Ch_R0me, 04 December 2021 - 12:38 PM.

[ghost1e]

Ch_R0me, on 04 December 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

Ok, seems like I have to ditch this event away (mental health issues).

Good that I have what I've wanted for anyway, so take care and be happy

Hope you get better soon <3

[ScrapIron Prime]

Generic Internetter, on 04 December 2021 - 11:02 AM, said:

Why do Mech Bays even exist?

The general concept of Mech Bays just feels like a paywall/cashgrab.

Buying Mechs isn't enough, you also need to buy parking spots for them... wtf lol

They gotta pay their staff. But you start with four and they give out free ones and MC you can buy them with all the time. So when they say the game is free to play, there aren’t too many asterisks on that.

[PocketYoda]

Thanks guys great event.

[martian]

Generic Internetter, on 04 December 2021 - 11:02 AM, said:

Why do Mech Bays even exist?

The general concept of Mech Bays just feels like a paywall/cashgrab.

Buying Mechs isn't enough, you also need to buy parking spots for them... wtf lol

Partially I agree, but PGI needs money.

And of course, you can always use Trial 'Mechs. They are free to use and they do not require 'Mech Bays.

[Luke Machan]

[xBASHARx]

Yeah, free stuff!
Thanks, always nice.

Generic Internetter, on 04 December 2021 - 11:02 AM, said:

Why do Mech Bays even exist?

The general concept of Mech Bays just feels like a paywall/cashgrab.

Buying Mechs isn't enough, you also need to buy parking spots for them... wtf lol

Totally agree. I'd suggest they even start paying US to play their game, why do developers need money at all?

[DeathDream]

Thank you!

[martian]

Ch_R0me, on 04 December 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

Ok, seems like I have to ditch this event away (mental health issues).

Good that I have what I've wanted for anyway, so take care and be happy

Get some rest and get ready for the Christmas event.

[Generic Internetter]

ScrapIron Prime, on 04 December 2021 - 07:48 PM, said:

They gotta pay their staff.

martian, on 04 December 2021 - 11:43 PM, said:

Partially I agree, but PGI needs money.

xBASHARx, on 05 December 2021 - 06:14 AM, said:

I'd suggest they even start paying US to play their game, why do developers need money at all?

You guys are stating the obvious. Yes, we all know that PGI need to make money to cover costs.

But the obvious point you guys missed is that there must be better ways for them to make money instead of charging for parking spots for the giant robots we collect ...or charging for camo colours instead of providing a simple MS Paint colour wheel.

One good example would be:
Add an MC reward for winning Solaris matches, but the MC reward is only for players on active premium time. Non-premium players still get the C-Bills and XP rewards, but no MC. This MC reward would;

1. Encourage players to play Solaris (making the game more fun/varied);
2. Encourage more players to buy premium time (resulting in more overall revenue for PGI); and,
3. Satisfy the players because they'd feel rewarded whenever they win MC.

I could think up ideas like this all day, but honestly I feel like I should be charging for this service lol

[Voice of Kerensky]

Good event. Thx, PGI!

[Big-G]

Nyte Kitsune, on 04 December 2021 - 12:21 PM, said:

I already have too many Mech Bays, but thanks for the thought. So instead I will play FFXIV Endwalker.

BTW I do like my loyalty mechs, thanks.

I seriously wish they give us the ability to sell back our surplus mech bays...

Yo PGI... I take it no December Free mech event then?

[martian]

Big-G, on 05 December 2021 - 08:34 PM, said:

Yo PGI... I take it no December Free mech event then?

Wait a week or two.

[D V Devnull]

JOATMON Incorporated, on 04 December 2021 - 10:25 AM, said:

And what happened next?
Down in Mechville they say
That the corsair's small heart
Grew 3 sizes that day.

Wait... so that's Corsagrinch up there with their Urbandog next to them? Dangit... I can't believe I totally misread the image that was designed for the Event which we're playing!

~D. V. "had no idea before now that a 'How The Grinch Stole Christmas' Theme was going on" Devnull

[Mochyn Pupur]

Generic Internetter, on 05 December 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

You guys are stating the obvious. Yes, we all know that PGI need to make money to cover costs.

But the obvious point you guys missed is that there must be better ways for them to make money instead of charging for parking spots for the giant robots we collect ...or charging for camo colours instead of providing a simple MS Paint colour wheel.

One good example would be:
Add an MC reward for winning Solaris matches, but the MC reward is only for players on active premium time. Non-premium players still get the C-Bills and XP rewards, but no MC. This MC reward would;

1. Encourage players to play Solaris (making the game more fun/varied);
2. Encourage more players to buy premium time (resulting in more overall revenue for PGI); and,
3. Satisfy the players because they'd feel rewarded whenever they win MC.

I could think up ideas like this all day, but honestly I feel like I should be charging for this service lol

OK, guessing you don't work in retail or marketing . . .

First off, S7 is dead in the water, it held no significant hold of the MWO population's interests, or wants and to cap it all, PGI has expressly stated it is a failure and will not be supported in any more development.

Getting to your points;

Why would preventing non-premium players from gaining MC rewards make them want to become seals for your MC gathering operation? Casting any differential based on a populaces' ability to spend real money when there are most likely noticeable demands on being able to pay rent/mortgage, pay bills, buy food and look after children (or as a child have minimal access to disposable income) creates a clearly defined two tier system and discriminates the less well off in favour of those with money to spare - MWO is a ftp system, your suggestion goes against this model and would likely discourage more people from playing.

• Offer of MC does nothing to change the experience of extreme meta gaming within a small percentage interest group, it merely rewards the try-hards even more for wanting to play a niche mode that was never wanted in the first place.
  
• There are so many different ways to accumulate premium time such as mech packs and events, the need to purchase it as a separate entity is not needed. (I hold somewhere near 480 days premium time banked that I have no use for enabling from packs and events).
  
• . . . and objectively penalise those without premium time, regardless of winning or losing in favour. Why only MC for a win when you get (all be it reduced) a tokenistic payment for a lose.

PGI has had plenty of capitalisation through its audience, the majority of which, over the last few years, has been wasted on vanity projects or syphoned off into other aspects of their business without actively engaging the player base or just down right dumped on them from a great height by ignoring MWO altogether.

At the end of the day, look for another source of income, you are certainly not going to get paid for reckless or ill considered suggestions like these

[Big-G]

martian, on 05 December 2021 - 09:08 PM, said:

Wait a week or two.

I'm a bit impatient... I know

[Gattsus]

HGAK47, on 04 December 2021 - 04:07 AM, said:

Just returned to the game after years of forgetting this game even existed. Making the grind back from the depths of Tier 5 (We got our tiers reset? Cool I guess) so im appreciating all the free stuff.

Welcome brotha! Same here! tier 1 -> tier 5.

While the GUI and pay-to-X mechanics are a bit meh, god the shooting is cool.

I'm having a blast in Tier 4, soon, perhaps, Tier 3?

[martian]

HGAK47, on 04 December 2021 - 04:07 AM, said:

Just returned to the game after years of forgetting this game even existed. Making the grind back from the depths of Tier 5 (We got our tiers reset? Cool I guess) so im appreciating all the free stuff.

Gattsus, on 06 December 2021 - 04:50 AM, said:

Welcome brotha! Same here! tier 1 -> tier 5.

Here comes the explanation:

► All MWO players - every single one, fresh Cadets included - were moved to the mid-Tier 3 in July 2020. ▼

► In December 2020 PGI made another movement: All players registered after July 2020 with less than 20-25 games have been moved to Tier 5. The PGI's original intent was to move those new Cadets (i.e. new players registered after July 2020 and with less than 20-25 games) to Tier 5, so they would not have to face skilled Tier 1 and Tier 2 players. ▼

► How I understand it, that was the intent ... ▼

► Now insert a piece of PGI's programming. ▼

► All players with less than 20-25 games played after July 2020 were moved to Tier 5, even if they have been registered since 2011. ▼

► Depending on how good player you are and how often you play, you should move out of Tier 5 in a week or two, and arrive to Tier 1 soon. ▼

► Have fun!