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#81 pattonesque

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 04:08 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 04:07 PM, said:

1: Yea many had false hope in the beginning. Many still do. Most of us i think love mechwarrior and want to play it. If we wanted to play CoD or other fps shooters we would load those up. We came to play mechwarrior though and mechwarrior already had established rules and gameplay. Give it some more time. Just like i said, these guys do not have a clue and it continues to unfold each patch. Just cant help but incriminate themselves.

2: lol patton, come see me in your piranha. I promise i will shoot. Posted Image


1. "In the beginning" seems to extend to the present day.

2. you're 54th percentile on Jarl's so a. we'd probably never play one another and b. you wouldn't even if we did

Edited by pattonesque, 24 January 2022 - 04:09 PM.


#82 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 04:09 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 04:07 PM, said:

Most of us i think love mechwarrior and want to play it.


Re-living your favorite moments from the BattleTech books won't make a good PVP game, sorry.

#83 justcallme A S H

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 04:20 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 03:39 PM, said:


When each fact can be backed up it is hardly a rant, or accusatory, unsubstantiated, or an opinion. But hey, if you want to go down as one of the chumps that got hoodwinked and was even supporting it, be my guest.


You've accused me of being a liar several times now.

Yet not once have you backed it up with a link to anything I've ever posted. So yes, it's unsubstantiated.

I'm still waiting for the proof that I asked for last time but then you went on some crazy rant.

#84 Meep Meep

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 04:34 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 24 January 2022 - 04:09 PM, said:

Re-living your favorite moments from the BattleTech books won't make a good PVP game, sorry.


Nor do your favorite battles on the table top games.

This is basically a hitscan arena shooter with a battletech theme and I'm totally cool with that.

#85 BLOODREDSIN

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:01 PM

View Postpattonesque, on 24 January 2022 - 04:44 PM, said:

I don't have any alts. All I'm saying is, based on your shrieking and panicked reaction to the mention of a Piranha in the previous thread, where you had a minor breakdown, you likely don't fare much better in the game.


Come on, i was clearly not behaving like that. I called you out and you didn't like that. That's it. Don't know why you can't let it go unless i really touched a nerve?

View PostMeep Meep, on 24 January 2022 - 05:00 PM, said:

How would you know?


Stick around, you are going to see it for yourself.

#86 Meep Meep

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:04 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 05:01 PM, said:

Stick around, you are going to see it for yourself.


Ok? Did you hire an investigator to hunt them down and root out their personal lives or something otherwise I think you have nothing.

#87 justcallme A S H

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:07 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 04:50 PM, said:


And i am still waiting for you to answer me, still waiting for you to provide proof to refute the facts i laid out. Anyone can research and see what i said was true. Prove me wrong. Asked you to do it before and you cant.

Again there is no way it can be unsubstantiated when there is, in fact, substance. I got a whole litany of stuff i could call you guys on. Some i already have and i have been met with smug holier than thou attitude that you typically demonstrate and no answer aside from the usual cauldron tactic of dogpile, shame, shout down and silence.



Once again when asked for proof you go on yet another rant and deflect.

#88 Maddermax

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:08 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 04:50 PM, said:

And i am still waiting for you to answer me, still waiting for you to provide proof to refute the facts i laid out. Anyone can research and see what i said was true. Prove me wrong. Asked you to do it before and you cant.

Again there is no way it can be unsubstantiated when there is, in fact, substance. I got a whole litany of stuff i could call you guys on. Some i already have and i have been met with smug holier than thou attitude that you typically demonstrate and no answer aside from the usual cauldron tactic of dogpile, shame, shout down and silence.


You didn't lay out any facts or proof. There is nothing to refute. There is not one testable fact in that insane rant of yours.

Not one.

I mean "6. cauldron thinks you are beneath them and they are your new dictator."

Or "9. MWO died a long time ago. It is time to realize this and stop. "

Exactly what is to be factually refuted here except to point out it's only your opinion, which has little basis in reality?

Edited by Maddermax, 24 January 2022 - 05:08 PM.


#89 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:34 PM

View PostMaddermax, on 24 January 2022 - 05:08 PM, said:

Or "9. MWO died a long time ago. It is time to realize this and stop. "


Yeah, sorry, I'm not a "cauldron buddy", but I have to pile on to this one. The game isn't the mech nirvana that you want, but it is up and running, so this point is demonstrably false.

And to the bit about calling Cauldron members "wet behind the ears" because they "only" play MWO (and presumably not living legends or somesuch)... so the fark what? MWO has been running for nearly 10 years now. If they ONLY have experience in a game that has been running for 10 years and are ONLY making suggestions for the content of said game... that hardly counts as "wet behind the ears". So that too is demonstrably false.

Its not a conspiracy if 90 percent of people disagree with someone, its just a sign that their opinion is a distinct minority.

#90 pattonesque

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:41 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 05:01 PM, said:


Come on, i was clearly not behaving like that. I called you out and you didn't like that. That's it. Don't know why you can't let it go unless i really touched a nerve?




View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 18 September 2021 - 01:15 PM, said:


That mech should not be in the game whatsoever. We have ZERO infantry running around. It does not belong. That mech was never for facing off against or killing other mechs. In fact, none of these lights that enjoy greifing other players in MWO are supposed to stand a snowballs chance in hell against anything heavier.Lights are scouts and fire support - THATS IT! That is how it has always been. Here we have lights soloing heavier opposition with ease. Many times before the victim can't even react. That is a major f#%@ing problem. And when they pack up? Game over. PGI has skewed the entire franchise with the moves they have pulled. PGI duped the whole community with a bait and switch(one of many used against the playerbase) they came up with while looking at new chassis to add to the game. First they sold you on the 6 Mgun cheetah, then next was the 8 Mgun Lynx, then the coup de grace... Piranha 12 Mguns. It was all planned like clockwork and executed to great monetary gain for PGI. So many of you fools fell for it. Some of you suckers may not even realize what happened but you got set up and swindled in the name of $$$. Meanwhile game balance, for all, takes a major hit. Just like it does with PGI custom radar bullsh#t that deviates from all other real mechwarrior titles. Allowing people in mechs weighing up to 100 TONS or lances of many hundreds of tons sneak up on you with this pseudo stealth garbage they implemented. The radar is wrong, size of mechs is wrong, the electronics functions are wrong, light mech function is wrong.... hell i can keep going to infinity.

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why was that last part redacted I wonder. was it maybe weird and unhinged?

#91 BLOODREDSIN

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:43 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 24 January 2022 - 05:07 PM, said:

Once again when asked for proof you go on yet another rant and deflect.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh God.... that was so rich coming from you. That is literally the exact way you operate. You do not seem to like the same treatment.

#92 BLOODREDSIN

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:04 PM

View PostMaddermax, on 24 January 2022 - 05:08 PM, said:


You didn't lay out any facts or proof. There is nothing to refute. There is not one testable fact in that insane rant of yours.

Not one.

I mean "6. cauldron thinks you are beneath them and they are your new dictator."

Or "9. MWO died a long time ago. It is time to realize this and stop. "

Exactly what is to be factually refuted here except to point out it's only your opinion, which has little basis in reality?


No ranting at all, i was calm as can be like i am now.

6 can be proven by their actions and words

9 you kinda gotta read between the lines on that one, my fault, my meaning is that MWO has lost all hope long ago and has never once turned around in all these years. Can be an opinion, you are right.

Anyways, you are quoting and replying a response i gave to justcallme, not the one i directed to you.

#93 Blood Rose

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:22 PM

Nah BloodRedSin, you talk out of your ***. Do you know how all my Assaults, bar my MAD-IIC deal with the Light plague? They shoot them. The MAD-IIC sneaks up behind them them shoots them. And sometimes, when they dont get the hint or im just feeling like being a true *******, I take my assaults and I give chase. Not far enough to be out of support, but enough to make the Light regret his decision to ever alert me to his existence. Piranhas too. And amazingly, they die. Or are so badly damaged they dont ever want to come back, or are easy prey for my escorts.
Piece of advice from someone who went from tier 3 to tier 4 just trying to make Light mechs work, Lights are weak and flimsy. Just mount some dedicated Light killing weapons and shoot the little gits when they get in close. Dont believe me, drop in Light and record it, then post here. I bet you dont hit 100 damage.

Also as a side note, I saw someone reference Battledroids and Assault scarcity earlier. Technically that is correct, but only for the 3rd-4th Succession War era. By the war of 3039 Mech production is beginning to ramp up again, and by the current era for the game, 3065ish or the FedCom Civil War, Assaults are commonplace. That said, the typical MWO team drop tends to be pretty much an Assault Company, (5-7 Assaults plus escorts) and those are still pretty uncommon as they are both expensive and lack mobility. Typically they are used for breaking the enemies lines and are then withdrawn whilst the cavalry companies flood through to exploit. Most companies have no more than 2-3 Assaults in this period.

#94 pattonesque

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:27 PM

he's typed an awful lot of words to avoid confronting his inability to shoot piranhas

https://twitter.com/...3506176?lang=en

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:32 PM

View PostScrapIron Prime, on 24 January 2022 - 05:34 PM, said:

Yeah, sorry, I'm not a "cauldron buddy", but I have to pile on to this one. The game isn't the mech nirvana that you want, but it is up and running, so this point is demonstrably false.

And to the bit about calling Cauldron members "wet behind the ears" because they "only" play MWO (and presumably not living legends or somesuch)... so the fark what? MWO has been running for nearly 10 years now. If they ONLY have experience in a game that has been running for 10 years and are ONLY making suggestions for the content of said game... that hardly counts as "wet behind the ears". So that too is demonstrably false.

Its not a conspiracy if 90 percent of people disagree with someone, its just a sign that their opinion is a distinct minority.


Technically its not dead, correct, i mean people still log in. But in spirit it was dead long ago. Destined to fail. There was never going to be any hope of this turning into anything but what it is. Lots of people gone now too. Hard not to notice.

As to your second point, they do not have the experience or the objective fairness or the honest reputation to be juggling numbers at their own discretion and force feeding it to the rest of us. They have nothing to compare anything to. They don't know anything. They are winging it. MWO, which was wrong from the get go can not be the only block in your foundation. It is actually the weakest block. They have made fundamentally incorrect and biased changes already, confirming what i have said. I guess you don't understand, but in most facets of life you kinda need to have been around the block a few times, experienced a few things, learned something, somewhere, before you have any credibility.

They are not making suggestions ScrapIron.... they are patching in actual changes that they and they alone decide for months now. There is no suggestion, its just getting done and that's it.

#96 Blood Rose

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:37 PM

I agree actually BloodredSin. The Cauldrons changes have promoted a sniper dominated meta and a great increase in the power of Heavy and Assault chassis to obliterate targets at long range. This is throttling the game and killing it, moreso than any Locust hitting someone in the rear.

#97 C E Dwyer

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:46 PM

Might I suggest, buying mech warrior 5 merc.

In the early story driven campaign you'll get a mission against a spider, in your centurion..

lose to that, and oyou'll know the issue lays with you

*smiles*

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:48 PM

View Postpattonesque, on 24 January 2022 - 05:41 PM, said:




why was that last part redacted I wonder. was it maybe weird and unhinged?


Why are you still harping on that old thread dude? That has not even got much to do with the current conversation but i know you are just scrounging, trying to bait me, but i stand by that post 100%. I will explain it to you though:

Last part was me exposing the tactics that were being used. I likened it to something that was taken in the wrong way and subsequently my post was tampered with. So yea, was a little more that you alluding to.

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:52 PM

I dont think i've fought a light in while. I generally leave my teams lights to do whatever it is they are doing and hoping they hunt down the enemy lights....i generally drive my thunderbolt or my corsair neither of which capable of fighting lights with much decency. I think the most i'll do is throw a warning shot at a light and gift it the red dorito so my team knows they are there...but from what i remember lights are terrible most times, very high risk high reward.

They arent ruining the game, they are ruining your game. Should maybe reassess how you approach lights and change tactics.

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 07:03 PM

View PostBLOODREDSIN, on 24 January 2022 - 06:48 PM, said:

Why are you still harping on that old thread dude? That has not even got much to do with the current conversation but i know you are just scrounging, trying to bait me, but i stand by that post 100%. I will explain it to you though:

Last part was me exposing the tactics that were being used. I likened it to something that was taken in the wrong way and subsequently my post was tampered with. So yea, was a little more that you alluding to.


it's relevant to your extreme emotional reaction to people telling you to shoot a small robot in Mech Warrior On Line



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