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Lights Op, Mediums Broken, Heavies Unbalanced, Assaults Overperforming


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#1 denAirwalkerrr

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 01:33 PM

Discuss.

#2 -P U R E-

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 01:36 PM

You forgot about dropships man...

#3 YueFei

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 01:43 PM

"Rock is fine, Scissors OP."
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#4 Dryderian

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 02:06 PM

MWO is still a team game, especially with the asymmetric setup and mechs still have roles. Power creep muddled that territory and has gotten a bit out of hand. but it is still the case in my opinion

You are not supposed to face stare alone at a fresh assault mech and take him down with a light, med or heavy mech. There might be players that are so good that they can do that(an assault alone is actually easy prey for a fast light mech), but the main point of the game is to play mechs according to their roles and to play as a "team" - for example support an assault mech that is pushing as you are a support mech.

All this is also situational and depends also how damaged assault mechs are that you engage. I could ramble on, my main point is, when you focus fire on a assault mech with 3 mechs, he will be down in 10-20 sec. He might take one with him and damage the 2 others, but the mech will be down. Play as a team and not alone for the leader board.

What I witnessed in the few games I played, took a break for some time. Many assaults are way longer inactive than back then. There are assaults which the team begs for help or to engage and which do not move. Then suddenly, when the win/lose cascade starts, around 3/4 of the game they wake up, take out 2 -4 damaged mechs get destroyed or the team wins.I saw that quite often.

Edited by Dryderian, 26 January 2022 - 02:17 PM.


#5 Bennesto

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 02:11 PM

I have never seen a "Mediums are broken" Thread in here...?

#6 denAirwalkerrr

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 02:16 PM

View PostBennesto, on 26 January 2022 - 02:11 PM, said:

I have never seen a "Mediums are broken" Thread in here...?


I can bet there was at least one "Shadow Cats OP"

Edited by denAirwalkerrr, 26 January 2022 - 02:17 PM.


#7 knight-of-ni

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 02:29 PM

Lions, Tigers, and Bears. oh, my!

#8 pattonesque

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 02:32 PM

View PostdenAirwalkerrr, on 26 January 2022 - 02:16 PM, said:


I can bet there was at least one "Shadow Cats OP"


"whatever killed me last is OP" is the theme I think

#9 Weeny Machine

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 02:38 PM

The answer is actually quite simple in online pvp games: what is perceived as overpowered is used most.

What is overpowered? Most damage, kills and easy to use I would say


So, just look what mech class is used most.

Do the same for loadouts.


View Postpattonesque, on 26 January 2022 - 02:32 PM, said:


"whatever killed me last is OP" is the theme I think

The buggy terrain of PGI? Got stuck

Edited by Weeny Machine, 26 January 2022 - 02:51 PM.


#10 Captain Caveman DE

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 03:14 PM

View PostdenAirwalkerrr, on 26 January 2022 - 02:16 PM, said:


I can bet there was at least one "Shadow Cats OP"


Veagle, Assassin, Vulcan, the Stormcrow was at one point OP as F*ck (according to whoever) ..
basically,
anything with 1+ Legs and an option for a gun/missile has been called OP, right? ;- )

#11 denAirwalkerrr

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 03:19 PM

View PostWeeny Machine, on 26 January 2022 - 02:38 PM, said:

The buggy terrain of PGI? Got stuck


jokes on you


Edited by denAirwalkerrr, 26 January 2022 - 03:19 PM.


#12 Captain Caveman DE

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 03:31 PM

View PostdenAirwalkerrr, on 26 January 2022 - 03:19 PM, said:


jokes on you




dude there's a similar hole on Hellebore Springs (from defense to the left I think) where I got my Anni stuck the same way.
it's the la brea tar pits all over ;D

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#13 Brauer

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 03:53 PM

View PostdenAirwalkerrr, on 26 January 2022 - 01:33 PM, said:

Discuss.


Nah, pebbles OP. The smallest bit of terrain or obstruction brings mechs to a halt.

#14 Meep Meep

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 04:41 PM

View PostWeeny Machine, on 26 January 2022 - 02:38 PM, said:

The buggy terrain of PGI? Got stuck


It feels like I die more to this than any other reason. Try to backup or escape and some pebble in the terrain blocks you.

#15 Ekson Valdez

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 12:07 AM



Humorous intent aside, there seems to be little to be discussed in a constructive way.
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#16 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 12:20 AM

Pebbles OP, each little Pebble stops a 100t assault ..without sarcasm MWO has many problems thats have nothing to do with the Mechs , the Terrain and the ClimbFunction has many traps for each Tactical Problem when you try to come close to your group and the maze style design , and each Pebbles stops you and separate you more...im not seeing many Problem liktetoday in teh Old days who its gave no climb Function ,otherside you seeing in this Days Direwolfs as sniper on the highest top of Tourmaline.Each solution brings her new own Problems.Another Problem the connection ,not one Match without DLC or bad Pings and Lagshilds thats brings a Mass problems .

Edited by MW Waldorf Statler, 27 January 2022 - 12:27 AM.


#17 Curccu

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 12:26 AM

View PostBennesto, on 26 January 2022 - 02:11 PM, said:

I have never seen a "Mediums are broken" Thread in here...?

Someone has QQed about atm vapors for sure at some point.

#18 Cerebus23

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 06:34 AM

i run my lynx heard how op fleas and locusts are my teams griping about.


i do 200 more damage get 4 to 6 more assists than most of those "op" mechs.


nerf me.

#19 KaptinOrk

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 07:37 AM

View PostBennesto, on 26 January 2022 - 02:11 PM, said:

I have never seen a "Mediums are broken" Thread in here...?


Mediums aren't small and fast enough to pick on those poor assault pilots.

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Posted 28 January 2022 - 06:04 AM

I do not like [insert thing here] I think it is overpowered because of [insert thing i clearly dont understand] and i want [insert thing here] to be removed from the game in its entirety so that nobody can play it at all because i personally dont like it and i like [insert thing here] instead and want only that to be buffed but only as long as im the only one playing it and nobody else is playing it and if i die to it in a match i want it to be nerfed too.


Also we should make the game single player co-op against AI only and if you try to click invite in the friends list it should automatically permanently ban you.

I am very smart and definitely not arguing in bad faith.

Edited by pbiggz, 28 January 2022 - 06:05 AM.




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