25 replies to this topic

[Mochyn Pupur]

Fly the Ukrainian Flag to show support (get one made asap)

[Bixente Vega]

I picked up some during the recent sell, plus a couple of European Union ones. I also bought the decal letters "F" & "P". UCK UTIN I already had.

[LordNothing]

perhaps pgi should put the flag on sale and send all proceeds to support civilians impacted by the invasion.

that said i cant imagine that flying well with the russian players and might pose a conflict of interest as pgi are in the process of setting up russian servers.

[Rondoe]

Ahh nevermind......sorry

Edited by Rondoe, 25 February 2022 - 08:05 PM.

[w0qj]

Folks, let's keep politics out of our MWO forum discussions!

Thought we are not supposed to discuss politics as part of the T&C conditions as forum members...

[ScrapIron Prime]

If players want to spend MC on a Ukrainian flag for support, good on them. I bought a French one for a cause a few years back, just quietly having it in my cockpit for anyone to see. But PGI and its owning company should stay out of it, as they provide the game to players in all nations.

Now another round of Sarah's Jenner sales and corresponding donations would be great, because everyone hates cancer!

[memorandum]

can we have a flag that says "**** Putler"

[Curccu]

LordNothing, on 25 February 2022 - 05:48 PM, said:

perhaps pgi should put the flag on sale and send all proceeds to support civilians impacted by the invasion.

that said i cant imagine that flying well with the russian players and might pose a conflict of interest as pgi are in the process of setting up russian servers.

I don't think that many russian citizens really want war either... they are the ones who feel those sanctions, not their leaders.

[TELEFORCE]

ScrapIron Prime, on 25 February 2022 - 09:06 PM, said:

Now another round of Sarah's Jenner sales and corresponding donations would be great, because everyone hates cancer!

I'd like to see this happen!

[LordNothing]

Curccu, on 26 February 2022 - 04:37 AM, said:

I don't think that many russian citizens really want war either... they are the ones who feel those sanctions, not their leaders.

yea, sanctions dont hurt the guys at the top. but what else can you do. if nato gets involved then the likelihood that things get nuclear increases exponentially. you want to penalize russia for breaking sovereignty, but dont want an escalation. we can sanction and help the inevitable refugee crisis, but i think this war should best stay between the current combatants. taking on an advisory role will just suck us into another proxy war like korea or vietnam. supplying weapons is probibly still on the table (that worked in afghanistan until we neglected the aftermath).

Edited by LordNothing, 26 February 2022 - 04:44 PM.

[Noodlejr]

I’ve got a few myself in the last sale and have painted some mechs with appropriate colours to show that they aren’t alone, people around the world care about their safety.

[Big MO]

w0qj, on 25 February 2022 - 07:33 PM, said:

Folks, let's keep politics out of our MWO forum discussions!

Thought we are not supposed to discuss politics as part of the T&C conditions as forum members...

With all due respect, whether or not you support nuclear power, or how much to spend on social programs is a matter of politics. Invading a sovereign country is not a matter of politics. Is it "an off topic discussion"? Certainly. But not ever politics.

[Mr Nice Mech]

If Russia moved into Mexico or above Alaska, would you be fine with that?
..
..
..
..

No, you would be chomping at the bit.

Putin whipped his unshorn {LT-MOB-25} out and slapped it on NATO's chin. This has been ongoing since the Obama administration.

[cazeral]

w0qj, on 25 February 2022 - 07:33 PM, said:

Folks, let's keep politics out of our MWO forum discussions!

Thought we are not supposed to discuss politics as part of the T&C conditions as forum members...

This isn't politics, its an attack on peoples' basic human rights, what part of the HRA

PART I

The Convention

Rights and Freedoms

Article 2

Right to Life


1 Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law. No one shall be deprived of his life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of a court following his conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided by law.

Article 3

Prohibition of torture

85 No one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment

Article 5

Right to liberty and security


1 Everyone has the right to liberty and security of person.

Article 8

Right to respect for private and family life


1 Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.

2 There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others


Please can you tell me which of these Rights are purely political in nature or perhaps, which of these should be engrained in the very fibre of our being? When you have done that, perhaps you would like to revisit your comment trying to steer away from the fact, people are losing their lives, military and civilian, regardless of their nationality and that this is simply a political argument.
The OP seems to want a system or feature that would allow them to show their support, not saying that everyone must - that is their prerogative, but asking PGI to make it available. Is that so wrong?
Yes, PGI can turn their back on it, but would they turn their back on someone laying in pain after an accident and just leave it to another - anyone - someone because it wasn't in their own financial best interests? If this si a yes, then it is a sad time that we live in.

Edited by cazeral, 27 February 2022 - 02:38 AM.

[Bixente Vega]

Noodlejr, on 26 February 2022 - 06:44 PM, said:

I’ve got a few myself in the last sale and have painted some mechs with appropriate colours to show that they aren’t alone, people around the world care about their safety.

I am interested in this. What chassis', colors, patterns, etc. did you use? Could a unit be put together?

[Noodlejr]

Bixente Vega, on 27 February 2022 - 05:20 AM, said:

I am interested in this. What chassis', colors, patterns, etc. did you use? Could a unit be put together?

I've been using Sulphur Yellow and Steiner Dark Blue which was free in an event at one point. I've also seen some players using some decals to make flags on their mechs exterior.

As for chassis not any in particular, just what I like to play, Roughneck, Urbie, etc.
*edit correction for colour

Edited by Noodlejr, 27 February 2022 - 08:13 AM.

[Duke Falcon]

ScrapIron Prime, on 25 February 2022 - 09:06 PM, said:

If players want to spend MC on a Ukrainian flag for support, good on them. I bought a French one for a cause a few years back, just quietly having it in my cockpit for anyone to see. But PGI and its owning company should stay out of it, as they provide the game to players in all nations.

Now another round of Sarah's Jenner sales and corresponding donations would be great, because everyone hates cancer!

Show your support for whatever side might be OK. Or not, depends on whom do you ask. There are many things we have no insight so judge whatever side would be rather questionable. Russia attacked? Yes. Do they have reason? Maybe. We not see everything what happens behind the curtains. Not russia nor ukraine are innocent or guilty as both sides could tell us "proofs" why they did what they did. Ukraine had plenty of times to solidify or solve the situation since the conquer of Crimean-peninsula. They made mistakes. The situation got worse and worse. But not only russia and ukraine are guilty in this whole situation. There were pacts, agreements neglected by both sides. Russia expressed many times what he thinks about the NATO and Ukraine believed that whatever they may do the EU and the NATO would support them. Not happened and now they must deal their business with the russian bear. We, the EU and NATO are just as responsible for the conflict as Russia or Ukraine. We could blame each other forevermore and henceforth. But why? Now it may more important to make some steps toward some solution before the war may trully break out. Because this is not a war yet, not a true war.

As for the cancer part...
"because everyone hates cancer!"
No, not really. I so far found it amusing to struggle with it. Gives some extra perspective what only those may understand whom faced with cancer. It is bad and sad but in the same time it is challenging and interesting. It shows how fragile we are since we think ourselves to be so strong and powerfull. Not wish any of you to experience the same.

[R0gal D0rn]

If people can´t understand 2 things we are ******.

1) Games create vinculation, politics create division. It´s in their nature. OLympic games came in greece as a way to find something able to create a neutral space between the different city states. Online Games are a space where the conflicts can have nothing to do with nationality, race, gender, religion, politic orientation etc. Some influence of the politics in the gaming world is inevitable, as biases in sciences are inevitable. But it´s much better for all if this is maintained under minimums.
It´s very important to preserve spaces where politics, religion, gender etc are the less important thing... We need them as air.

2) Some things aretoo important to go wandering in a videogame.

Dont frivolize war. Take games seriously, but reality is much more serious.


And maybe 3)
All you can do inside the game will affect in ZERO what is going in the real world
In nothing positive.
If you want to support a cause, send money to them or to the ONG involved.


The world today is terrible, but i can imagine one even worst.
A world where people in didderent sides can´t even play toegether

https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/story/2021-12-24/christmas-truce-soccer-world-war-germany-britain-adolf- {Godwin's Law}

Edited by Tirant Lo Blanc, 27 February 2022 - 01:41 PM.

[Noodlejr]

Tirant Lo Blanc, on 27 February 2022 - 12:48 PM, said:

If people can´t understand 2 things we are ******.

1) Games create vinculation, politics create division. It´s in their nature. OLympic games came in greece as a way to find something able to create a neutral space between the different city states. Online Games are a space where the conflicts can have nothing to do with nationality, race, gender, religion, politic orientation etc. Some influence of the politics in the gaming world is inevitable, as biases in sciences are inevitable. But it´s much better for all if this is maintained under minimums.
It´s very important to preserve spaces where politics, religion, gender etc are the less important thing... We need them as air.

2) Some things aretoo important to go wandering in a videogame.

Dont frivolize war. Take games seriously, but reality is much more serious.


And maybe 3)
All you can do inside the game will affect in ZERO what is going in the real world
In nothing positive.
If you want to support a cause, send money to them or to the ONG involved.


The world today is terrible, but i can imagine one even worst.
A world where people in didderent sides can´t even play toegether

https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/story/2021-12-24/christmas-truce-soccer-world-war-germany-britain-adolf- {Godwin's Law}

I don’t believe this is a matter of politics. This is more so a matter of people are getting hurt, people are getting killed and that’s not ok. I can’t do much in the way of money so this is the next best thing that I can readily do. Just because the effect isn’t quantifiable doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. A drop in the ocean is still a drop needed to be an ocean.

Edited by Noodlejr, 01 March 2022 - 05:12 AM.

[MechWarrior414712]

And here i came to escape reality... XD