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[KabukiOne]

I want to pick up a Hatamoto-Chi since I'm all-in for Kurita. Which one would you recommend, and are there any good builds for them online? I'm aware that they aren't great assaults, but they ARE giant samurai!

[ScrapIron Prime]

The 27TR has ECM, but is actually hard to build because its quirks are PPC and missile. You can do something like this to it for 60 alpha at over 500m... https://mwo.nav-alph...b039c6_HTM-28TR

The other popular one is the 27W. Slap 3 AC/2 or RAC/2 in the right torso and go to town. Gotta watch the heat, though. https://mwo.nav-alph...f1e3ccf_HTM-27W

[Ekson Valdez]

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[The Trumpet of Gabriel]

If you go 2 MRM 40's and 4 er smalls on the 28TR you have a 95 alpha...

[ScrapIron Prime]

I would think the 27T makes a better MRM 80 build because of the +20% velocity quirk.

[MPhoenix]

It’s far from ‘meta’ but I’ve had good luck with the Shugo with 2 LB10s and 2 MRM20’s.

With the upcoming quirk changes it should do better.

HTM-SG:
Added 10% Range
Increased Cooldown to -10% (from -5%)
Increased LBX Spread to -20% (from -10%)
Increased Missile spread to -15% (from -5%)
Increased heat to -10% (from -5%)
Removed 10% Ballistic range

[Viltor]

Hatamoto 27T is the best LRM boat. It got really good quirks and it's the lightest mech that can fit x4 LRM 20s without stripping away all of it's armor and engine.
It got +20% velocity, +10% heat dissipation/range/cooldown and 5% missile spread buffs. There's no other LRM boat with so many good quirks.

A for frontline mech, it's too big and slow for it's weight. Hatamoto is same size as Atlas, it's very easy to hit CT.

[Dekallis]

28TR can carry 2MRM40's and quad small or medium lasers depending on how much spare MRM ammo you want. It can do so while also having ECM and with maxed out armor. It's probably the 'best' of the Hatamoto variants.Simply because it sacrifices basically nothing but can still achieve 100ish point alpha's without melting itself. I have personally disintegrated dire's and anni's in this thing as if they were lighter mechs.

27W can carry triple AC5 OR triple rotary 2 OR double UAC5 in it's ballistic hardpoints for a solid damage foundation if you want to do ballistic stuff otherwise it doesn't really do anything the other variants can't.It has a large amount off Cooldown for ballistic weapons though so I'd recommend doing AC's since rotaries do not benefit from cooldown at all and if you skill into cooldown on top of the quirks the AC5 gets down to almost the same firerate as AC2's. It's kinda nutty. Also it has a jamchance quirk making the UAC's slightly more reliable.

The hero isn't anything special as far as I know, don't have one myself but if I had to build one I'd probably run quad MRM10's and double UAC10's for big upfront damage and just pray the UAC's don't jam the first time you double tap.
It'd probably look something like: https://mwo.nav-alph...badeeed5_HTM-SG

[ScrapIron Prime]

Well thanks to the recent buffs, I now have more than one Hatamoto Chi.

So can I call them my Hatamoto Chi's ? Cheese?

[Viltor]

I just murdered whole enemy team on my LRM Hatamoto. Here's the build - Al;820H1|Lg|[O|[Opm0|Z?|Z?qm0|Z?|4@|[O|[Or00sd0|=@|[O|[OtY0|[O|[OuY0|[O|[Ov:0|[Ow604040

Edited by Viltor, 18 November 2022 - 07:52 AM.

[Duke Falcon]

What about this fun-build?
htm-27t
It is a mid-to-late game build however when you could execute the already battle-worn opponents...

[w0qj]

Just to be clear, Viltor's LRM Hatamoto build repeated as below URL, for easy viewing
https://mwo.nav-alph...c3bbc7f_HTM-27T

Viltor, on 14 November 2022 - 07:24 PM, said:

I just murdered whole enemy team on my LRM Hatamoto. Here's the build - Al;820H1|Lg|[O|[Opm0|Z?|Z?qm0|Z?|4@|[O|[Or00sd0|=@|[O|[OtY0|[O|[OuY0|[O|[Ov:0|[Ow604040

[Viltor]

Duke Falcon, on 15 November 2022 - 01:01 AM, said:

What about this fun-build?
htm-27t
It is a mid-to-late game build however when you could execute the already battle-worn opponents...

PPCs are bad, they are too hot. Hatamoto has energy slots in arms, which are low and too wide. Low arms slots are most effective with close range weapons.
Rocket Launchers are meme.
If you want to fight at mid range, HTM-28TR with ECM, 2 MRMs40 and 4 ERML is solid choice.

[Duke Falcon]

Viltor, on 18 November 2022 - 08:07 AM, said:

PPCs are bad, they are too hot. Hatamoto has energy slots in arms, which are low and too wide. Low arms slots are most effective with close range weapons.
Rocket Launchers are meme.
If you want to fight at mid range, HTM-28TR with ECM, 2 MRMs40 and 4 ERML is solid choice.

As I said: FUN-BUILD
And PPCs are cool, best weapons in BT considering their damage\tonnage ratio (ERs more so, surpass even the bulky, slow Gauss).
I personally run a HTM-27T with 2xLPLs + 2xLRM15s backed by AMS. Pretty solid if you could remain close to your lines because using the lazors also get the lock. Hatamotos could be swift make them excellent lurmboats (lurming is not equal with stay behind waiting fer locks).

[Rad 1]

Well, myself recently I’ve been enjoying my giant Samurai with a 300std engine and 3 ac5’s and medium lasers in the arms. No real heat issues, and the ballistics are all squeezed together in this tight, cockpit cracking formation

build code:
Am;:20S1|i^|i^|jbp31|k?|k?|k?q31|FO|FO|i^rd0|Y?|Y?sd0|Y?|Y?tc0|FO|FOuc0|FO|FOv?0|cOw101010

Edited by Rad 1, 23 November 2022 - 05:19 PM.

[w0qj]

Rad 1's HTM-27W build as below for prosperity's sake
https://mwo.nav-alph...27d00cc_HTM-27W

HTM-27W quirks:
-25% Ballistic cooldown
+15% Range
+30% Weapon Velocity
-30% UAC Jam Chance (not used in this instance)

*faints*

Rad 1, on 23 November 2022 - 05:12 PM, said:

Well, myself recently I’ve been enjoying my giant Samurai with a 300std engine and 3 ac5’s and medium lasers in the arms. No real heat issues, and the ballistics are all squeezed together in this tight, cockpit cracking formation

build code:
Am;:20S1|i^|i^|jbp31|k?|k?|k?q31|FO|FO|i^rd0|Y?|Y?sd0|Y?|Y?tc0|FO|FOuc0|FO|FOv?0|cOw101010

Edited by w0qj, 23 November 2022 - 09:32 PM.

[Rad 1]

Hey! I appreciate that you got on and put those numbers up. I was getting ready to sit down and do it today while my turkey cooks, only to find someone did it AND it looks nicer than the crap job I probably would have done It's got good range with the quirks, 25% ballistic cooldown is a noticeable quirk, and I don't think I've EVER had my AC/5's jam

[Rad 1]

Viltor, on 14 November 2022 - 07:24 PM, said:

I just murdered whole enemy team on my LRM Hatamoto. Here's the build - Al;820H1|Lg|[O|[Opm0|Z?|Z?qm0|Z?|4@|[O|[Or00sd0|=@|[O|[OtY0|[O|[OuY0|[O|[Ov:0|[Ow604040

I am giving this a go as I had that Hatamoto sitting around. It's good! I mean, it's LRMs, so if that's not what you're looking for move along, AND if you get an ammo explosion they can see it from the moon of whatever planet you're on (that's a lot of ammo and no case!). But with that said, had some pretty decent numbers, pretty good experience in game, and has just enough speed it's not left behind like a faf or anh.