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[RickySpanish]

John Bronco, on 28 July 2022 - 07:29 AM, said:

All this proves is regardless of how much you guys say you hate nascar, you actually love it.

So much this.

[Urbie Connoisseur]

Personally, I prefer all of the classic variants of maps over their modern ones.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

My only hope is that they leave Mining Collective alone, tbh this map needs a higher percentage of even showing up in the rotation because this is probably the most solid map in the game. It could use some tweaks here and there (ramps on the side that has the ledged backside that teams always rotate around, and closer together spawn points) but overall this is probably the best map. If only they could replicate the success of this one elsewhere.
Canyon honestly used to be another really solid map as well before they somewhat ruined it with the unnecessary bridge terrains and removal of the center mountains.

[Crohnic]

Yes, bring back old HPG but only if Old Caustic is brought back as well.

[VeeOt Dragon]

you know usually i am all for more maps (anything that lowers the chance of Solaris or Mining coming up always good, gods above and bellow i hat those maps) i will have to say no. (i would vote but i run a VPN and that site doesn't like that)

i like the new maps very much, they are interesting with less nascaring potential (it doesn't stop idiots from doing it but you can't fix stupid)

old HPG was just a nascar fest and boring map in general.

though if we are putting together a wish list of things that will never happen i would love to see more people used more Lore friendly builds instead of the constant meta nonsense but then again i am strange that way (even if that would mean more LRM on the field as many Lore builds include them)

[martian]

Dr Wubs, on 27 July 2022 - 11:12 AM, said:

Should Old Hpg Be Put Back Into The Map Rotation?

My opinion is that PGI should keep both maps in rotation.

Let the players decide what map they want to play on. This is what the map voting system is for.

[VikingN1nja]

I think all maps should be back in terra, caustic (OG) etc....more maps more options.

[DarkBazerker]

The voting system is a mixed bag. I of course would rather have it, then not have it, but it is far from perfect. In an ideal world we would have two servers, one with new maps only and one with classic maps. Sadly they can't split the game like this because of buckets.

[MyriadDigits]

DarkBazerker, on 28 July 2022 - 01:14 PM, said:

In all honesty, the biggest problem with the new maps is they lean to much to one play style, apart from one or two. No longer does tactics, cover, twisting coming in to play, no just form a firing line and fire from across the map.
While I do enjoy the new maps, I think most of the larger ones need to be made smaller, or in the case of New Frozen city, the trench should have a bridge across it. The problem with New HPG is, it is a bowl of which anyone can stand on the rim and take shoots in to said bowl. Now I don't know about any of you, but I don't want to fight in a bowl, while getting shoot at from multi angles. The fact that I don't like playing on maps like New HPG and Station, has ended up with me drifting away from the game it's self, some of you don't care/happy about that and thats nice.
At the end of the day, yes I want the old HPG back, and yes I would like to never see New HPG again, or I would settle for a fixed New HPG. None of the things want will happen tho. Why? Because the player base has become self serving, narcissistic, raging pile of man children dumb asses, apart from a few groups of humanity with common sense.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

So mindless rushing into the center and running counterclockwise until either you run over the enemy or the enemy runs over you is tactics?

lmao

[MechB Kotare]

Only if old polar and old river city are back too.

[pattonesque]

MyriadDigits, on 29 July 2022 - 11:16 AM, said:

So mindless rushing into the center and running counterclockwise until either you run over the enemy or the enemy runs over you is tactics?

lmao

better than being tickled by those scary blue lasers!

[ScrapIron Prime]

MechB Kotare, on 29 July 2022 - 11:28 AM, said:

Only if old polar and old river city are back too.

I miss old polar, this one I'd support. Unless it was Domination, the fights were literally all over the map.

[PocketYoda]

I'd be fine if they got rid of all frozen City and Alpine.. none of those maps work..

[KDK Prime]

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Should old HPG be put back into the map rotation?

No.

I don't see what old hyper nascar central does better over the new version. People have some weird rose-tinted glasses and fail to account for the current gameplay.

- "It would have less snipers compared to new one, because it's harder to get on walls!"
Except it's not hard at all, just takes a bit longer to walk if you have no JJs.

- "Bowl-shaped center sucks!"
The old one was literally the same and worse...
Yes, pls do 10 laps around the center while being shot in the back by 1-2-3 snipers on the walls, farming you for free.

At least the new center layout allows you to cut through the center up top, if needed, instead of exposing yourself all the way by running around or up the center. More holes to peek from, to shoot those "pesky snipers."

[Curccu]

KDK Prime, on 30 July 2022 - 01:16 AM, said:

I don't see what old hyper nascar central does better over the new version. People have some weird rose-tinted glasses and fail to account for the current gameplay.

- "It would have less snipers compared to new one, because it's harder to get on walls!"
Except it's not hard at all, just takes a bit longer to walk if you have no JJs.

Yep pretty much comparable to 100m run and marathon.... it's not harder at all just takes a bit longer.
I claim that 90%+ of this games population cannot get direwolf without JJs to snipy places in old HPG.

KDK Prime, on 30 July 2022 - 01:16 AM, said:

- "Bowl-shaped center sucks!"
The old one was literally the same and worse...
Yes, pls do 10 laps around the center while being shot in the back by 1-2-3 snipers on the walls, farming you for free.

1-2-3 snipers or maybe it was usually 0-1 snipers, now it is 2-4. Sure there would be more now because snipy weapons are stronger compared to time when we had old HPG.
Way less cover in walls also in old version.

KDK Prime, on 30 July 2022 - 01:16 AM, said:

At least the new center layout allows you to cut through the center up top, if needed, instead of exposing yourself all the way by running around or up the center. More holes to peek from, to shoot those "pesky snipers."

Except if you are not use "pesky snipy weapons" you don't have range to shoot them from center most likely.

[1Exitar1]

Dr Wubs, on 27 July 2022 - 12:42 PM, said:

That's interesting, but I don't think two forest colonies have popped up on the same vote.

I see it happen every few days and I only play 4 - 6 matches a day, usually.

[RockmachinE]

Yes. Old HPG was better. You can see the new maps were designed by a person not very familiar with MWO.

[pattonesque]

Louis Brofist, on 31 July 2022 - 09:01 AM, said:

Yes. Old HPG was better. You can see the new maps were designed by a person not very familiar with MWO.

Edited by pattonesque, 31 July 2022 - 12:13 PM.

[Vonbach]

"Nascar" just means actual cover from the sniper tards. Bring back old HPG and stop catering to snipers. There are other players besides snipers.

Edited by Vonbach, 31 July 2022 - 12:34 PM.

[pattonesque]

Vonbach, on 31 July 2022 - 12:33 PM, said:

"Nascar" just means actual cover from the sniper tards. Bring back old HPG and stop catering to snipers. There are other players besides snipers.

you know what's interesting is that new HPG actually has an incredible amount of cover from snipers! I think it might be good for you to learn this rather than pretending it's not the case because you can't emotionally handle a blue laser tickling you.