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[Wesxander]

Just had no group play event where an 8 man sync dropped into a game to smash the team I was on. When I report them for exploiting you prevent me from doing so PGI. Why label event saying no groups drop 8 tier 1's into it on the same side and put 8 tier 2 and tier 3s in the other group? Is that your damn idea of fair play?

Full crud about no group drops in events. Your MM puts them in group anyways without matching up players classes.

[pbiggz]

lol hello friends

[w0qj]

Even if "No Groups" is specified in Event, players can communicate via Discord (or etc.) and sync drop together, and have a good chance of playing in same game together.

Problem is, some of those sync dropping folks might end up fighting against each other. XD

Edited by w0qj, 02 October 2022 - 02:17 PM.

[JC Daxion]

Sync dropping is against the rules, but people still do it anyway.. It's something that's next to impossible to police and even harder to stop.

[Sawk]

LOL so petty, of you all to try and get the what you want.

i play 3 to 5 games per day, have no voice in what happens---- but i am still having fun, i really like the fact that some light has to scream help when learns my timberwolf is going to snip his legs off, i had 4 lights and or high speed mechs on me last night i KILLED 1 and chopped the leg off a second 1, and they called me NEW GUY.
0k i get it, i did 275 damage, maybe 200 match score, but i had a kill and assisted in 8 more, yes maybe 2 from a UAV--- yes you need many, and air strikes, to help THE TEAM,
its can be a fickle thing with new units, its a learning curve, i was muted by the 4 man group that DIED in first 4 mins of the game, can say 1 light was with me and he had a nice load out, stole 2 of my kills LOL, 4 MG i think and 3 med, i was hitting for about 32 to 46 damage pin point, and then he just took my killl LOL, thanks little DUDE

SAWK CLANNER

[Therax]

They are not sync dropping, event queue is actually bugged, or set incorrectly.


At least for the HPG Assault event, players can form up in a group and then enter into the event queue with that group.


Sync dropping gives chance for those players to be on opposite teams, so I don't have an issue with that, but this group thing in a event marked no groups is kinda messed up.

[Sawk]

YOUR WRONG ---- it worked as designed, you are being MOODY

SAWK

[Arnetheus]

JC Daxion, on 02 October 2022 - 03:09 PM, said:

Sync dropping is against the rules, but people still do it anyway..

That never was the case.

[Curccu]

Wesxander, on 02 October 2022 - 02:14 PM, said:

Just had no group play event where an 8 man sync dropped into a game to smash the team I was on. When I report them for exploiting you prevent me from doing so PGI. Why label event saying no groups drop 8 tier 1's into it on the same side and put 8 tier 2 and tier 3s in the other group? Is that your damn idea of fair play?

Full crud about no group drops in events. Your MM puts them in group anyways without matching up players classes.

Sync dropping doesn't work like that... well maybe it does one in a million or so, usually about half of the people doing that ends up in other team... PS. Screenshot would be nice addition.

JC Daxion, on 02 October 2022 - 03:09 PM, said:

Sync dropping is against the rules, but people still do it anyway..

Against what rules? Code of Conduct? Nope it doesn't mention it at all.

[Bud Crue]

Curccu, on 03 October 2022 - 02:10 AM, said:

Against what rules? Code of Conduct? Nope it doesn't mention it at all.

I know you probably know this, but for the forum ignorant, a few years ago during an argument about this same tired topic, one of the forum mods, not a dev, but a single forum mod, once declared from on high that sync-dropping was a violation of the COC. That single instance has been cited repeatedly by various members of the "groups are killing the game" crowd as their sole piece of evidence that sync dropping is "cheating". The fact that the COC doesn't address this directly, or that no dev has ever indicated that syncing is problematic, or that streamers, including some that were once employed by PGI, regularly employed sync dropping for years without issue, and that even some PGI devs would occasionally sync drop with others is all irrelevant to these people.

[Curccu]

Bud Crue, on 03 October 2022 - 03:35 AM, said:

I know you probably know this, but for the forum ignorant, a few years ago during an argument about this same tired topic, one of the forum mods, not a dev, but a single forum mod, once declared from on high that sync-dropping was a violation of the COC. That single instance has been cited repeatedly by various members of the "groups are killing the game" crowd as their sole piece of evidence that sync dropping is "cheating". The fact that the COC doesn't address this directly, or that no dev has ever indicated that syncing is problematic, or that streamers, including some that were once employed by PGI, regularly employed sync dropping for years without issue, and that even some PGI devs would occasionally sync drop with others is all irrelevant to these people.

Actually didn't know.

[Kotis77]

https://www.twitch.t...3967?t=3h45m28s

looks like more broken stuff. EQ gonna turn out to FP if not fixed.

[pbiggz]

Kotis77, on 03 October 2022 - 05:14 AM, said:

https://www.twitch.t...3967?t=3h45m28s

looks like more broken stuff. EQ gonna turn out to FP if not fixed.

Yeah, looks like its just plain not working as intended. But the anti-group crowd powerfully needs there to be a conspiracy.

I'll note that OP's only other post, was a thread in which he claimed, without evidence, that t4s and t1s were regularly matching and that he was regularly facing high-tonnage teams; again, without evidence.

[w0qj]

The overtone of this one forum thread "no groups in event que is a lie by PGI" sounds very shrill to me, hurts my ears.

It may have been an honest oversight or even a programming mistake, but think MWO overall tries to do what it says it would do.

And definitely not a lie. An honest (programming) mistake.

Please give MWO programmers a break; mistakes do occasionally happen. Thanks.
(Now can I take the cotton buds off my ears now?)

[Curccu]

w0qj, on 03 October 2022 - 05:34 AM, said:

The overtone of this one forum thread "no groups in event que is a lie by PGI" sounds very shrill to me, hurts my ears.

It may have been an honest oversight or even a programming mistake, but think MWO overall tries to do what it says it would do.

And definitely not a lie. An honest (programming) mistake.

Please give MWO programmers a break; mistakes do occasionally happen. Thanks.
(Now can I take the cotton buds off my ears now?)

It helps claim like this to some evidence like screenshot instead of just a claim that it happened. (Sync drop didn't happen clearly.)

But looks like typo from PGI whoever "programmed" these events. Not the 1st and not the last time PGI didn't double check what they have typed before releasing stuff.

[Kotis77]

Yeah this Wes guy is too salty ingame and forums, but you gotta bring out broken stuff to get it fixed.

Im not blaming PGI for this, mistakes happens.

But if they not gonna fix it EQ gonna die like FP. Hope they finally change their ways and focus on fixing/adjusting new gamemode, not just here it is and we not gonna do any more work on "its perfect" and carry on with next project. We dont need more broken stuff that people exploit...

[Kotis77]

Looks like all popular games just make 1-3 maps and gamemodes and devs only tune/adjust them to get it right.

And ppl seems to enjoy that..

Edited by Kotis77, 03 October 2022 - 06:42 AM.

[BellatorMonk]

Gotta love all the shills who say "where is your screenshot as proof?" while admitting in the next sentence "it can happen and the MM makes mistakes" lol.

Hey how about you people disprove it happening? Where are your screenshots and stats? Everyone is supposed to believe you just because you say the moon is waxpaper not cheese?

We get it, you love the game so much you will defend it against any negative statement of an experience in the game. If you love it so much and it's so perfect why are you not employed there? I hear they are hiring?

[Curccu]

BellatorMonk, on 03 October 2022 - 06:48 AM, said:

Gotta love all the shills who say "where is your screenshot as proof?" while admitting in the next sentence "it can happen and the MM makes mistakes" lol.

Usually if you claim something that says information given by PGI is false, you gotta have some kind of evidence for that claim to have any weight.

and TBH that syncdrop scenario should be impossible what OP described having 8x T1 players sync dropping on one side and other side getting zero T1 players but instead just lower tier randoms, yeah MM doesn't work like that.

Kotis77 provided evidence that it is possible to drop as a group in EQ, very simple and effective to make people believe that claim.

BellatorMonk, on 03 October 2022 - 06:48 AM, said:

Hey how about you people disprove it happening? Where are your screenshots and stats? Everyone is supposed to believe you just because you say the moon is waxpaper not cheese?

I don't think anyone has made such crazy claims here.

BellatorMonk, on 03 October 2022 - 06:48 AM, said:

We get it, you love the game so much you will defend it against any negative statement of an experience in the game. If you love it so much and it's so perfect why are you not employed there? I hear they are hiring?

Who again here was defending against any negative statement.
I would not want to work in that incompetent company, well it actually might be better now without Paul and Russ.

[pbiggz]

BellatorMonk, on 03 October 2022 - 06:48 AM, said:

Gotta love all the shills who say "where is your screenshot as proof?" while admitting in the next sentence "it can happen and the MM makes mistakes" lol.

Just because it can happen, doesn't mean it does, even regularly. If you disagree with that, you can prove it, but i'm not doing your homework for you.

BellatorMonk, on 03 October 2022 - 06:48 AM, said:

Hey how about you people disprove it happening? Where are your screenshots and stats? Everyone is supposed to believe you just because you say the moon is waxpaper not cheese?

Kotis provided proof its a technical glitch. Babbling about proving a negative however is a typical strategy for people with shaky arguments. You don't get to pass the responsibility for proving yourself right onto your opponent. Come here with receipts or don't come at all.

BellatorMonk, on 03 October 2022 - 06:48 AM, said:

We get it, you love the game so much you will defend it against any negative statement of an experience in the game. If you love it so much and it's so perfect why are you not employed there? I hear they are hiring?

iF u lOvE iT sO mUcH wHy dOnT u mArrY it!?


PS: I see you Kodiak.