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[DavidStarr]

I used to love the Ebon Jaguar, and I still do, but much has changed since I last played them a lot. Please suggest your up to date builds.
Thanks in advance

Here's my contribution, put this together a couple days ago after I realized how high up two of the hardpoints are. The PPCs are perfect for ridge-peaking, and UAC-20 is there because of the 15% UAC-20 jam chance quirk that the EBJ-A has. But it's a bit too hot.

AI4D<:=1pe0\L7|gB|SRqe0ZL7|l^|SR|LC|1C|1CrW0YL7sX0]L7|gR|f<2t[0^L7u[0_L7v50XL7w707070

Edited by DavidStarr, 22 December 2022 - 06:27 AM.

[w0qj]

Update:
DavidStarr's above EBJ build as per below URL link:
https://mwo.nav-alph...=df01941f_EBJ-A

Tip: Just copy/past your above mech code into this webpage, then press [Share] to copy the URL link!
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab

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Ah, the lovely EBJ... personally I prefer energy on this beauty of a Clan mech

EBJ hero mech: 2xLPL + 3xERML (max cooling)
https://mwo.nav-alph...f5d2de4a_EBJ-EC
~You can add more ERML and less DHS into this build; feel free to customise as you like!

Edited by w0qj, 22 December 2022 - 09:18 AM.

[martian]

DavidStarr, on 22 December 2022 - 06:02 AM, said:

I used to love the Ebon Jaguar, and I still do, but much has changed since I last played them a lot. Please suggest your up to date builds.
Thanks in advance

A pair of UAC-10s and quad ER Mediums.

DavidStarr, on 22 December 2022 - 06:02 AM, said:

Here's my contribution, put this together a couple days ago after I realized how high up two of the hardpoints are. The PPCs are perfect for ridge-peaking, and UAC-20 is there because of the 15% UAC-20 jam chance quirk that the EBJ-A has. But it's a bit too hot.

AI4D<:=1pe0\L7|gB|SRqe0ZL7|l^|SR|LC|1C|1CrW0YL7sX0]L7|gR|f<2t[0^L7u[0_L7v50XL7w707070

I think that using that one ER Micro laser is a bit pointless. Why do not you add more Ultracannon ammo instead?

[DavidStarr]

martian, on 22 December 2022 - 06:42 AM, said:

I think that using that one ER Micro laser is a bit pointless. Why do not you add more Ultracannon ammo instead?

It's unfortunately required for padding. The second and third hardpoints are high up, but the first one is waist-level. I need to put something in the 1st slot to force the PPCs into the high hardpoints.
Unless there is a way to move weapons into specific slots without adding artificial padding?

Edited by DavidStarr, 22 December 2022 - 06:51 AM.

[martian]

DavidStarr, on 22 December 2022 - 06:51 AM, said:

It's unfortunately required for padding.

Oh, yes.

DavidStarr, on 22 December 2022 - 06:51 AM, said:

Unless there is a way to move weapons into specific slots without adding artificial padding?

Negative. And there are some 'Mechs in the game where not even "padding" works.

DavidStarr, on 22 December 2022 - 06:51 AM, said:

The second and third hardpoints are high up, but the first one is waist-level. I need to put something in the 1st slot to force the PPCs into the high hardpoints.

What about removing some armor from the unused arm and adding something what could go into the pair with that Ultracannon? For example, ER Medium laser (or Medium pulse)?

[Widowmaker1981]

Typical 2 LPL + 3-5 ERML works, as does something like 2 LPL/1ERML in LT + Gauss in RT.

However, i cant really find a valid current use for the EBJ. Its not bad, as such, but anything it can do the SunSpider can do with enormously better geometry and ECM.

[BLACKR0SE]

I give the weight of the armor to the front because I do hit and run

And at a distance, feet don't matter. I can protect the feet.

[BLACKR0SE]

weapon groups

from far to near.

[BLACKR0SE]

Every laser design that does not have enough coolant in the engine is like this.

a full refrigerator.

When I design a design, I do it according to the fastest kill time.

[Widowmaker1981]

TAMTAMBABY, on 16 February 2023 - 05:45 AM, said:

weapon groups

from far to near.

What on earth is the HML doing in this build? It breaks it, because if you fire it with the ERMLs it will cause massive ghost heat, where adding one more ERML would not do that. No other weapons share a range profile with it, so... why?

Also, why combine a bunch of ERMLs with ERLLs in the first place - range doesn't match, and if you want close range backups for harassing lights, SPLs would work much better. ERMLs sync much better with HLLs or LPLs.

[BLACKR0SE]

Widowmaker1981, on 16 February 2023 - 08:08 AM, said:

What on earth is the HML doing in this build? It breaks it, because if you fire it with the ERMLs it will cause massive ghost heat, where adding one more ERML would not do that. No other weapons share a range profile with it, so... why?

Also, why combine a bunch of ERMLs with ERLLs in the first place - range doesn't match, and if you want close range backups for harassing lights, SPLs would work much better. ERMLs sync much better with HLLs or LPLs.

What on earth is the HML doing in this build?

No matter how far I stand, the enemy can approach me. 1 gun is not much.


It breaks it, because if you fire it with the ERMLs it will cause massive ghost heat, where adding one more ERML would not do that.

I know this. I do this for maximum damage at distance.

Also, why combine a bunch of ERMLs with ERLLs in the first place - range doesn't match, and if you want close range backups for harassing lights, SPLs would work much better. ERMLs sync much better with HLLs or LPLs.

I am happy with ERs.

whatever armor you put on this machine. Very weak at close range.

I usually use this machine at a distance of 500 - 600.

Also, large pulse is very heavy.

I want all my slots to be full.

this is an obsession for me.

[BLACKR0SE]

my only problem. when the enemy sees this machine, they know that the EBJ armor is weak and come on me.

[Widowmaker1981]

TAMTAMBABY, on 16 February 2023 - 11:29 AM, said:

I want all my slots to be full.

this is an obsession for me.

I wondered if that was it, i have the same impulse to want to use all slots in every build. But sometimes its not feasible and is unwise to force it.

[CFC Conky]

4xLPL.

Keep it simple.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky