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foamyesque, on 21 April 2023 - 11:54 AM, said:

A mech is an entire system you goof. You're asking 'how would a mech that can now carry more stuff be more effective', like come *on*.

I've conceded that point at the start. The question is ~how much~ of a buff would it be because the bap changes mean that anyone that was using it before now has ~extra~ fittings to work with the ~extra~ benefit of now allowing it on builds that couldn't squeeze it in before ~increasing~ the amount of mechs it can be run on. Ecm mechs would only get the fittings boost and no other mechs would gain ecm mounts. So again its the supes or supes with brass knuckles argument. Point me to the IS ecm mech with a fit that a half ton and one extra slot would ~effectively~ increase its raw fighting power over its current base.

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Meep Meep, on 21 April 2023 - 12:01 PM, said:

I've conceded that point at the start. The question is ~how much~ of a buff would it be because the bap changes mean that anyone that was using it before now has ~extra~ fittings to work with the ~extra~ benefit of now allowing it on builds that couldn't squeeze it in before ~increasing~ the amount of mechs it can be run on. Ecm mechs would only get the fittings boost and no other mechs would gain ecm mounts. So again its the supes or supes with brass knuckles argument. Point me to the IS ecm mech with a fit that a half ton and one extra slot would ~effectively~ increase its raw fighting power over its current base.

a. I have, b. why should I?

Make an argument as to why the best piece of equipment in the game for the Sphere should be made even better.

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foamyesque, on 21 April 2023 - 12:08 PM, said:

a. I have, b. why should I?

Make an argument as to why the best piece of equipment in the game for the Sphere should be made even better.

I already have multiple times in this thread? It's up to those against it to come up with reasons it shouldn't be done that are reasonable. Again give us some example fits that this change would make ~effectively~ stronger than now. And no going from say 8 dps to 8.7 or regaining a handful armor or half a ton of ammo isn't going to sway the argument.

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Meep Meep, on 21 April 2023 - 12:16 PM, said:

I already have multiple times in this thread?

No, you haven't. You've not actually made a case for your change, you've just been demanding people meet some completely unknown 'effective' standard to say it shouldn't happen.

Well, it shouldn't happen because it's an unneeded change. Show me a reason, in mechanical terms, why Sphere ECM needs to be better than it is. You've completely failed on this front, all thread.

Edited by foamyesque, 21 April 2023 - 12:40 PM.

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Well thanks for your opinions!