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#21 Samziel

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Posted 23 May 2023 - 11:26 PM

View Posthypographia, on 23 May 2023 - 03:00 PM, said:

These look like fun. Will have to wait a patch or three to see where they shake out nerf/buff-wise, but still, interesting builds!


Good call. I have a feeling Seraph might lose the coolshots because 4 coolshots with 10E is crazy good. But thats okay.

Don't really see many other ways to nerf it with so little quirks. Arges has the hsl but I don't think its op because of it.

Edited by Samziel, 23 May 2023 - 11:27 PM.


#22 Tarzan of Barsoom

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Posted 24 May 2023 - 03:52 AM

I have an issue with the Seraph extra cool shot consumables in that you are still restricted to 5 consumables overall, even if you spend the skill points to buy more than 5. I feel, given the quirk description of +2 consumable slots, it should allow you 7 maximum consumables. This would not be out of line, if possible, given the lack of any offensive firepower quirks

#23 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 24 May 2023 - 08:06 AM

View PostSamziel, on 23 May 2023 - 11:26 PM, said:


Good call. I have a feeling Seraph might lose the coolshots because 4 coolshots with 10E is crazy good. But thats okay.

Don't really see many other ways to nerf it with so little quirks. Arges has the hsl but I don't think its op because of it.


If anything they would remove or lower the durability quirks to keep the special flavor of 2 extra cool shots. I’m not sure it’s there yet. It’s only been one day.

#24 Mad Dawg

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Posted 24 May 2023 - 08:24 AM

View PostSteel Shanks, on 23 May 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

Legends is incredibly stupid... Pretty sure the Battleships game World of Ships ALSO came out with Legends... I don't know who copied who, but it's absolutely terrible either way...


"Legends" name is fine. Not sure why people are complaining about that, or even comparing it to other games. Not too long ago Catalyst Game Labs released a "Legends" line of Battetech EPUB novels in electronic format, so if you need some sort of justification of the name or why it's connected to Battletech, well there you go.

#25 PocketYoda

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 05:17 AM

View PostMad Dawg, on 24 May 2023 - 08:24 AM, said:


"Legends" name is fine. Not sure why people are complaining about that, or even comparing it to other games. Not too long ago Catalyst Game Labs released a "Legends" line of Battetech EPUB novels in electronic format, so if you need some sort of justification of the name or why it's connected to Battletech, well there you go.


Because none of them are actually legendary?

#26 BLACKR0SE

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 07:19 AM



#27 Will9761

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 08:02 AM

View PostMad Dawg, on 24 May 2023 - 08:24 AM, said:


"Legends" name is fine. Not sure why people are complaining about that, or even comparing it to other games. Not too long ago Catalyst Game Labs released a "Legends" line of Battetech EPUB novels in electronic format, so if you need some sort of justification of the name or why it's connected to Battletech, well there you go.


While the branding of "Legends" is ok (though I'm not a fan of it myself), I want to detail to you specifically why some people do not like the rebranding.

1. The word, legend implies something that is historical and epic. Due to the past (and current) actions of PGI that sullied their reputation, people aren't so willing to forgive nor forget. Also with the changes going from good to worse (Community Warfare into Faction Play, Solaris 7) and the slow content, many feel like this game is on life-support. Admittedly, this game has existed for 11 years now, so the branding is justified in a way.

2. The word, Legends is too oversaturated these days in the game industry. While the words, Legends or Legendary implies a celebration of the past like an anniversary, most developers use the word to describe something as cool or awesome.

3. In this universe we already have Legends used in BT, like Mechwarrior Living Legends and BattleTech Legends. With the former, Some people believe that this was a good way to anger the Mechwarrior Living Legends crowd (there is some bad history with them and PGI so I won't go in detail). While the latter makes sense because it's detailing the personalities of BT from the Star League Era all the way to the current ilClan Era.

4. In regards to the "Legendary" Mechs, we already have them. They are called Hero Mechs. Also as stated by PocketYoda, there is nothing Legendary about them. Why were they created this way? Who was their pilot? What was the reasoning behind the name? The so-called "Legendary" Mechs are P2W mechs without any history nor backstory to the lore whatsoever to explain their existence unlike Hero Mechs. If the Legendary Mechs were tied to notable pilots or had a backstory from the BT lore that explained their origins, they would be fine.

Edited by Will9761, 25 May 2023 - 12:28 PM.


#28 Reno Blade

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 09:00 AM

I'm interested in "special" quirks for the Legendaries.
the Scattershot showed something interesting with trade-offs, so let's try something similar?

some ideas:
  • Laser beam duration -50% laser cooldown -50%, but laser damage -50%
  • Missile/Ballistic/PPC: damage +50%, but velocity -70%
  • or the other way, +100% velocity, but -30% damage
  • mech speed increased by 50%, but agility/mobility reduced by 50% (e.g. you can run, but hardly turn)
  • quirk bonus increased by +100% for certain tree and -50% on other tree


#29 MechWarrior8922442

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Posted 27 May 2023 - 04:36 PM

Early in development, the community made a fateful and short-sighted choice that would have solved MANY game issues.

Repair costs.

Yep. Even I thought this sounded stupid 10 years ago, but unlike knockdown mechanics, this serves a real, valuable, and reasonable mechanism to balance the game. This is how you guarantee that overpowered mechs won't be on the field more often than is fair: because they are too expensive to repair and replace components. It also helps make the grind more enjoyable because mechs are harder to save for as you run cost-effective mechs most of the time so that you can afford to buy new mech variants. And it ramps up the excitement because when you see a rare, expensive variant or load out... You know that every point of damage is going to ruin that dude's budget.

Hate to say it, but this fixes every problem except for the competitive players who get bodied: and who cares. Give them a list of approved mechs that they're allowed to compete in.

We're supposed to be freeborn mercenaries... When was the last time a comstar bill meant anything to us?... When we got our final cadet bonus, basically.

Edited by MechWarrior8922442, 27 May 2023 - 08:06 PM.


#30 P H O T O N

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 12:36 AM

So about the Arges helmet bolt-on.

https://ibb.co/1bftcLV

You literally cannot see forward and what you're aiming at. It's impossible to play with it!

#31 BLACKR0SE

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 01:07 AM

View PostP H O T O N, on 29 May 2023 - 12:36 AM, said:

So about the Arges helmet bolt-on.

https://ibb.co/1bftcLV

You literally cannot see forward and what you're aiming at. It's impossible to play with it!


press F3

I think it's very nice.
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#32 epikt

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 02:19 AM

View PostP H O T O N, on 29 May 2023 - 12:36 AM, said:

So about the Arges helmet bolt-on.

https://ibb.co/1bftcLV

You literally cannot see forward and what you're aiming at. It's impossible to play with it!

I just tested it on training ground, and I didn't see the helmet... only when jumping to free camera:



Does it only happens in live servers?

#33 P H O T O N

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 02:30 AM

View Postepikt, on 29 May 2023 - 02:19 AM, said:

I just tested it on training ground, and I didn't see the helmet... only when jumping to free camera:



Does it only happens in live servers?


I just tested again in the training ground and I didn't get my vision obscured. It happened to me in a live game in the FP event. It might be a bug only found in real games. Can you try too? Warning, it's nearly impossible to play with vision obscured.

View PostTAMTAMBABY, on 29 May 2023 - 01:07 AM, said:


press F3

I think it's very nice.
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By pressing F3 I assume you mean going into third-person view. If so, that's really not a viable solution.

#34 epikt

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 05:01 AM

View PostP H O T O N, on 29 May 2023 - 02:30 AM, said:

I just tested again in the training ground and I didn't get my vision obscured. It happened to me in a live game in the FP event. It might be a bug only found in real games. Can you try too? Warning, it's nearly impossible to play with vision obscured.

I tested in both QP and FP, both were fine.
Did it happen multiple times or just once?

#35 P H O T O N

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 10:10 AM

View Postepikt, on 29 May 2023 - 05:01 AM, said:

I tested in both QP and FP, both were fine.
Did it happen multiple times or just once?


I've only had the Arges in my drop deck once after equipping the helmet of doom. I will try again later and post back. I recoloured the helmet which may be related to the issue.

Edited by P H O T O N, 29 May 2023 - 10:11 AM.


#36 BLACKR0SE

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 12:10 PM

The issue could be due to a different resolution. It's worth trying

#37 epikt

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 05:32 PM

View Postthe check engine light, on 29 May 2023 - 10:14 AM, said:

Is it supposed to do that?

No it's not.
I even vaguely remember I-don't-remember-who saying it won't change the vision.

View PostTAMTAMBABY, on 29 May 2023 - 12:10 PM, said:

The issue could be due to a different resolution. It's worth trying

I'm in 2560*1440.

#38 BLACKR0SE

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 07:10 PM

View Postepikt, on 29 May 2023 - 05:32 PM, said:

No it's not.
I even vaguely remember I-don't-remember-who saying it won't change the vision.


I'm in 2560*1440.


As you can notice, many menus, images, fonts, and animations in the game are in 16:9 format. Perhaps the issue stems from this.

#39 BLACKR0SE

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 07:13 PM

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Posted 29 May 2023 - 07:17 PM

https://mwomercs.com...descreen-issue/

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