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#21 Saved By The Bell

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 10:45 PM

TTB made a video with alive aim bot.
There are much big problems than LRM trolling.

#22 Curccu

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 01:49 AM

View PostRisen Trash, on 02 June 2023 - 10:52 AM, said:

Full disclosure: when I started playing this game I used an LRM boat. I had a craptop computer and it seemed like a good way to participate while I learned. It took literal years to undo the straight garbage play I taught myself in the time it took me to start listening to the better players around here.


Hi Dear alt account poster or just BS poster.... pick one.
"It took literal years"
Forum Member Since 06-November 22
1st record in Jarl's Oct '22

It literally have not been a Year since you created that account so please post with your main account and you might get some credibility instead of just new player QQing and lying.

#23 crazytimes

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 08:14 PM

I played a SNV-A match just to celebrate this thread.

Got a real bad Ebon Jaguar LRM80 build I might play next too.

#24 PocketYoda

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 08:36 PM

If its not lrms its the sniper meta..

#25 pbiggz

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 09:12 PM

View PostPocketYoda, on 03 June 2023 - 08:36 PM, said:

If its not lrms its the sniper meta..


jesus christ

#26 LordNothing

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 11:40 PM

its the potato meta.

#27 SafeScanner

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 04:49 AM

If its not Lrms its the Sniper Meta if its not Sniper meta its OP light if it not OP light its Laser vomit if its not laser vomit its Lrms

am i missing one/two?

Edited by SafeScanner, 04 June 2023 - 04:51 AM.


#28 LordNothing

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 05:07 AM

im still waiting for the ballistic meta. i dont think its ever had its day in the sun not since the great gauss nerf that i didnt see because i was playing mwll. id love to see "rac meta" because then id have an excuse to use them. "narc meta" has probibly never been uttered on these forums. rocket launcher meta was kind of interesting in eq until it was nerfed. bizzare metas are the most fun imho.

#29 SafeScanner

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 07:39 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 04 June 2023 - 05:07 AM, said:

im still waiting for the ballistic meta. i dont think its ever had its day in the sun not since the great gauss nerf that i didnt see because i was playing mwll. id love to see "rac meta" because then id have an excuse to use them. "narc meta" has probibly never been uttered on these forums. rocket launcher meta was kind of interesting in eq until it was nerfed. bizzare metas are the most fun imho.


Machine guns been a few complaints......... i think

#30 ThreeStooges

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 07:50 AM

Still waiting on the jump jet meta so I finally have a reason to buy the 5v with its OP CT !12 ALPHA DAMAGE!

#31 Meep Meep

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 01:48 PM

View Postthe check engine light, on 04 June 2023 - 08:44 AM, said:

The 5V is honestly kind of funny with a SNPPC as a harasser, Locust 1V does it a little better but can't jump


It's a great skirmisher and a total pain when poptarting. Full cooldown nodes and you are firing basically every 1.8 seconds..

sdr-5v

I still prefer the 5d with ecm and 3 lppc since you get double the range and the same dps with a bonus of it being all pinpoint and not splash like the snub.

A bit slower and less jumpy but you can still get up top on most of the good sniping spots.

sdr-5d

#32 LordNothing

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 06:31 PM

View PostSafeScanner, on 04 June 2023 - 07:39 AM, said:

Machine guns been a few complaints......... i think


those arent real ballistics.

#33 Storky

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 03:50 AM

LRMs must be fixed to be weaker, but less countered by ECM.

#34 Curccu

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 07:49 AM

View PostStorky, on 05 June 2023 - 03:50 AM, said:

LRMs must be fixed to be weaker, but less countered by ECM.

Remove ECM and Derp from the game and we can nerf lurms... and I would only nerf indirect if at all.

#35 Storky

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 03:04 AM

View PostCurccu, on 05 June 2023 - 07:49 AM, said:

Remove ECM and Derp from the game and we can nerf lurms... and I would only nerf indirect if at all.


Derp ?

Yeah, in other words. Nowadays lurms are devastating if they hit, whish is happens 1 one Case of 5 because of EC and obstacles.
Especially now, when the LRM boat is a rare guest, players like me don't put points in the Radar Deprivation, and going on open valleys being covered just from direct fire. And if there is a LRM boat locks me I am so doomed.

#36 Curccu

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 07:42 AM

View PostStorky, on 06 June 2023 - 03:04 AM, said:

Derp ?

Radar Deprivation

#37 Meep Meep

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 10:16 AM

Eh as an lrm advocate I think they are in a great place. Ecm and derp means you can't just roll along in clan lrm monstrosities and melt anything that dares leave hard cover half the map away. We used to have that meta and it almost destroyed the game. I think that maybe derp could be nerfed just a wee bit more so that max skills still leave you locked for one second after breaking los. That gives the mechs with the derp quirks something to use so they can instantly break lock.

#38 Grimjack Haxor

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 02:47 PM

To me it is a necessary part of the game and quite immersive. It wouldn't be fun without them. It's no more BS than the people who definitely do not have aimbots or unnatural reflexes who can pinpoint your center torso or cockpit from across the map, etc. Or who turn their mouse sensitivity way down and have a mouse mat the size of Texas. Not my idea of fun.

Now Assault mech LRM... Yeah I can see being annoyed with that. I do play an assault LRM boat sometimes but only because AFAIK it's the only way I can LRM with ECM and AMS - FNR-WR. I much prefer a MDD-RV LRM though, my favorite mech in the game.

LRMs do very little damage, if you are getting killed by that it's your mistake.

Also, pretty sure my money is just as good as yours. Some people like missiles. Missiles were always what I liked about mechs, whether Battletech or otherwise. I love the MLRS type packs of missiles. And they should be usable as artillery.

What next, C-UAC is garbage? I like C-UAC too. It's a bit spammy. Is whatever is different than what you want to play garbage?

I think they should straight up come out with a LRM boat legendary. It's not any more BS than snipers and totally-not-using-aimbot sweaty assassins. You play your game I'll play mine.

/rant off

Also one more thing. Both my LRM boats have 3 MPLs and I get a fair number of kills off those. I don't hang back in my MDD-RV, it's quite fast, and I get up to the front line, and MPL the enemy quite effectively if need be, and also take advantage of C-LRM not being useless at close range.

Edited by Grimjack Haxor, 06 June 2023 - 03:09 PM.


#39 foamyesque

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 05:27 PM

View PostGrimjack Haxor, on 06 June 2023 - 02:47 PM, said:

Now Assault mech LRM... Yeah I can see being annoyed with that. I do play an assault LRM boat sometimes but only because AFAIK it's the only way I can LRM with ECM and AMS - FNR-WR. I much prefer a MDD-RV LRM though, my favorite mech in the game.


The Archer Tempest can do ECM + AMS + LRMs: https://mwo.nav-alph...=130aaff6_ARC-T

#40 Curccu

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 10:40 PM

View PostMeep Meep, on 06 June 2023 - 10:16 AM, said:

Eh as an lrm advocate I think they are in a great place. Ecm and derp means you can't just roll along in clan lrm monstrosities and melt anything that dares leave hard cover half the map away. We used to have that meta and it almost destroyed the game. I think that maybe derp could be nerfed just a wee bit more so that max skills still leave you locked for one second after breaking los. That gives the mechs with the derp quirks something to use so they can instantly break lock.

As known ECM addict... Posted Image

LRM hard max range is only 1125m with 10% quirked mechs with full range skills, I can make ERLL boat with 1k optimal range.
Instead of lock time plus 4+ second flight time it can shoot your face instantly with hit scan weapons get back to cover.

PS. I don't remember LRM meta ever unless you count very short periods of Lurmpocalypsos when Paul cluelessly did some "balance" tweak and made LRMs stupidly OP.





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