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[simon1812]

Considering the event, all heroes 50% off, thinking about buying some hero(es) mechs, any suggestions and why? Mostly want to know you guys' experience.

Some mechs has variants that are better than their hero version, like the wolverine 7D, thats the one with like -40% jam chance(giggidy) just to illustrate an example.

[Meep Meep]

Probably the cheapest hero is one of the most fun. Locust Pirates Bane. I'm running through my alts right now to use the free mc they have banked to buy them all a PB.

My personal fav fit at the moment is this.

lct-pb

Use it to annoy the ever loving fk out of snipers and other wallflower types of play. Also works great to break up a firing line if you get a good crossfire spot with some overwatch so they can't rush you.

[w0qj]

The Kit Fox Purifier hero mech CT is worth getting, since you seem to like Light mechs (it's a Clan Omnimech)...

It's the only way to get a CBills boost Kit Fox CT without shelling out real life money (the other ones are
KFX-Prime(I), KFX-G(L), KFX-D(P)).

Kit Fox Purifier: 6x SML Pulse Laser + 4x HMG +JJ
https://mwo.nav-alph...c805cce6_KFX-PR

Edited by w0qj, 03 June 2023 - 10:33 AM.

[Curccu]

Meep Meep, on 03 June 2023 - 10:06 AM, said:

lct-pb

Why no stealth? You'd lose nothing relevant over it.. few points of arm armor and rest of the head armor.

[Meep Meep]

No benefit from stealth with this fit and you get terrible heat dispersion. It's a mid range ridge and corner poker not an in your face(or rear) mech like the small or medium laser fits. Ecm is all you need. Just like with the ecm urbie and lppc your optimal range for engagement is outside of even a sensor boosted mechs range to bust your ecm.

If I was going to run stealth on it I'd go with this instead.

lct-pb

Edited by Meep Meep, 03 June 2023 - 11:24 AM.

[Curccu]

Meep Meep, on 03 June 2023 - 10:53 AM, said:

No benefit from stealth with this fit and you get terrible heat dispersion. It's a mid range ridge and corner poker not an in your face(or rear) mech like the small or medium laser fits. Ecm is all you need. Just like with the ecm urbie and lppc your optimal range for engagement is outside of even a sensor boosted mechs range to bust your ecm.

yep but there is no real drawback either to have it, just to maybe get out of dodge easier sometimes or into some flank.
Personally I'd see no reason not to take because it can give pretty nice advantage sometimes. UM-R80 3xLPPC+anything on other hand just doesn't have extra slots or tons to have stealth without giving up something I value more.

PS. On topic bought Street Cleaner as it is the best SNPPC urbie at the moment and only urbie I didn't own already.

Edited by Curccu, 03 June 2023 - 11:25 AM.

[simon1812]

Hmmm if I buy the the LCT PB I would be left with enough mc to buy another light hero, guess that would be a plus.

But why is the PB better than its regular variants though??

Dont mind buying a good heavy or assaults though.

Edited by simon1812, 03 June 2023 - 11:34 AM.

[feeWAIVER]

The rifleman Legend Killer is really good, and the Dao Breaker as well

[Meep Meep]

Curccu, on 03 June 2023 - 11:24 AM, said:

yep but there is no real drawback either to have it, just to maybe get out of dodge easier sometimes or into some flank. Personally I'd see no reason not to take because it can give pretty nice advantage sometimes. UM-R80 3xLPPC+anything on other hand just doesn't have extra slots or tons to have stealth without giving up something I value more. PS. On topic bought Street Cleaner as it is the best SNPPC urbie at the moment and only urbie I didn't own already.

Yeah stealth is handy to have for the ninja stuff you can do but in that lppc fit I'm striving to never get closer than 400m so its not much use to me personally. As to shaving even more armor off you need every point especially on the head as you will get laser vomit sweeps across it due to the were its at on the model. I kinda wish I was able to put a few more points into it to be honest.

Another cheap hero that can be quite fun is the jenner 2c fury.

jr7-iic-fy

If the uac20 doesn't jam thats 106 damage at 500m over about 4 seconds and it has great high mounts.

simon1812, on 03 June 2023 - 11:32 AM, said:

Hmmm if I buy the the LCT PB I would be left with enough mc to buy another light hero, guess that would be a plus. But why is the PB better than its regular variants though?? Dont mind buying a good heavy or assaults though.

Ecm. Ecm makes lights very very annoying.

As to what particular mech you buy make sure its in a class you already do well in or else you won't have nearly as much fun.

Edited by Meep Meep, 03 June 2023 - 11:42 AM.

[simon1812]

the check engine light, on 03 June 2023 - 10:02 AM, said:

Quarantine isn't too bad for a Wolvie (they're not really the strongest IS medium), 7D's MASC is the best part about it IMO and the favored loadout for it is MRM30+MRM20 though I love using a UAC10 on it with SRM4s.

It'll kind of depend on what playstyle you like. If you like dakka, something like the Huntsman Pakhet with podswaps and dual CUAC10s is a good Medium, and Pakhet pods let you switch to SRMbombing and possibly laservomit as well (forget if the one arm has more E than other options - you can just swap in whatever on an Omni and make it work). IS Heavies have good dakka options with Warhammer Black Widow. Clan Heavies, Ebon Jaguar Esprit de Corps lets you run really good UAC dakka. Grimmechs has a fair number of builds to pick from in the Heroes, though some are kind of old.

With my WVR 7D I roll UAC2x2 SRM6x2 and 1 flamer that catches most lasor boats by surprise when they think they can just alpha my shinny metallic behind.bI was surprised considering I sport am all red color scheme on my mech.

[LordNothing]

some are, some aren't. stack your event mc and get them for free during sales.

if you are gonna spend cash the legendaries are a better deal (when compared to the 2nd level mc package), and you get 3kmc and a mech bay to spend on hero mechs and boosted items to add 5% to your cbill bonus. 3k will only get you most battlemechs (clan omnis tend to be more expensive and all over the place pricing wise) up to 80 tons during a 50% off sale. it only takes a day or two to complete the 20k xp needed to unlock everything.

Edited by LordNothing, 03 June 2023 - 02:01 PM.

[Bud Crue]

Marauder Bounty Hunter. It can do so many really good/fun builds. From ERLL spam, to Gauss/ERPPC to various combos of HGR/AC20 and Snubs or ML/MP, or even good ole laser vomit. It just works. Plus it has JJ. I just bought two more.

[crazytimes]

Clan hero omnis are often a good buy because they give you a CT with the +30% chills, and a collection of pods that may have unique hardpoints you can use on other CTs for otherwise impossible builds.

Otherwise, just depends on your preferred playstyle. Sunspider heros are versatile. Catapult Jester can do MPL brawl, snubs, or generic laser vomit. Dervish frenzy good SRM bomber. Centurion Yen Lo Wang is good for AC20+snubs, torso twist, repeat. Nightgyr JK gives you unique pods for builds.MAD-AL does good long range dakka.

Then there's hard mode. Shadow hawk GD is a rare sight, but got some solid AC20 quirks- it can be played like a hunchback with JJ... and no armour. Assassin DD has some spicy AC2 quirks if you're keen to shoot a lot without actually doing much damage.

[crazytimes]

the check engine light, on 03 June 2023 - 04:50 PM, said:

Grey Death has armor. MRM40+LB10X is decent on it. AC20+4ML is okay. I've been running it with HGauss+4ERSL,

Compared to the HBK-4G - HBK has 90 armour on the gun side, 75 on the other, with 38 on the arms. SHD has 75 on the gun side, 61 on the other, and 42 on the arms. HBK has 10 more CT as well, with slightly smaller mech size overall. SHD has a bit more structure, but when your gameplay is based around an AC20, you want the armour and not be risking crits to it. HBK reload is 1.8s vs 2.3, which is pretty fast for both, but SHD loses about 90m on optimal range too.

SHD is still a decent AC20 platform, but it's definitely not as armoured and optimised as the HBK. Like you said though, there's some other builds that will work, it's just not a hero I'd recommend for someone who didn't want a bit of a challenge.

[LordNothing]

last 3 months i picked up a lot of heros thanks to the legendary mc bonuses. my deathwish has been pretty good since i got it. i know lots of people hate it but ive been having a blast with the uac20 and the 50 point hml alpha to back it up. had fun with the boars head i picked up as well. the veagle hero on the other hand, havent figured out a good build for it. wrath and frenzy were also pretty good. also picked up the tin man which i really didnt like.

you can play around with the loadouts and run them in the testing grounds to see if you like it.

Edited by LordNothing, 03 June 2023 - 07:12 PM.

[PocketYoda]

I can't remember i think i bought 5 this sale.. i had a fair bit of MC saved..

I got the Orion IIC, Awesome, Victor, Bushwacker, Spider and Raven heroes. Mostly because they seemed ok.

[LordNothing]

i had luck with the orion iic. spider hero surprisingly has good numbers in my stats, despite being a light mixed build.

[Curccu]

crazytimes, on 03 June 2023 - 05:52 PM, said:

Compared to the HBK-4G - HBK has 90 armour on the gun side, 75 on the other, with 38 on the arms. SHD has 75 on the gun side, 61 on the other, and 42 on the arms. HBK has 10 more CT as well, with slightly smaller mech size overall. SHD has a bit more structure, but when your gameplay is based around an AC20, you want the armour and not be risking crits to it. HBK reload is 1.8s vs 2.3, which is pretty fast for both, but SHD loses about 90m on optimal range too.

SHD is still a decent AC20 platform, but it's definitely not as armoured and optimised as the HBK. Like you said though, there's some other builds that will work, it's just not a hero I'd recommend for someone who didn't want a bit of a challenge.

SHD has JJ which is probably the only advantage it has but on some maps it can be huge advantage.

[epikt]

If you like snubs, you can't go wrong with the Griffins: Sparky for 4 snubs (fire 2+2) or Ares for 3 (all at once), both are really good.
The Sparky can also do some nice laser builds (LPLas+ERMLas, 6 MPLas,...), and the Ares other PPC builds (4 PPC, 3 ERPPC, etc).

[Storky]

Huntsman PAKHET , HBR VIRAGO, Veagle RIVAL are amazing.
SKÖLL, GOLDEN BOY and RANCOR also looks interesting.

Exptected more from Vulcan Bloodlust, GRINNER fine but boring and GRID IRON is just weak.