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#1 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 08:20 AM

Why is it when I get one (1) kill and roughly 200 dmg with a Spider and my Pilot Skill Rating goes down?

If it weren't for me the long range wouldn't have been hiding and having to reposition from me shooting them in the back.

Do better, PGI.

#2 CFC Conky

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 08:26 AM

You can still get a down arrow after that kind of match depending on the performance of the other 23 players. Also, you don’t rise or fall based on a fixed rate so you might have only gone down a little bit. An up arrow in this match would probably not have moved you up in psr very much anyway.

Oh, and forgive for saying this as I’m not a pro, but objectively, 200 damage and 1 kill is not exactly a stellar performance, even in a Spider.


Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 30 July 2023 - 08:30 AM.


#3 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 08:31 AM

View PostCFC Conky, on 30 July 2023 - 08:26 AM, said:

You can still get a down arrow after that kind of match depending on the performance of the other 23 players. Also, you don’t rise or fall based on a fixed rate so you might have only gone down a little bit. An up arrow in this match would probably not have moved you up in psr very much anyway.

Oh, and forgive for saying this as I’m not a pro, but objectively, 200 damage and 1 kill is not exactly a stellar performance, even in a Spider.


Good hunting,
CFC Conky


I don't have any armour on my Spider.

I'm a High-Risk Player.

#4 Mechwarrior2342356

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 08:33 AM

You knew what you were getting into with the Spider. It is THE mech you play when you want to tank PSR without actually throwing.

Edited by the check engine light, 30 July 2023 - 08:34 AM.


#5 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 08:56 AM

View Postthe check engine light, on 30 July 2023 - 08:33 AM, said:

You knew what you were getting into with the Spider. It is THE mech you play when you want to tank PSR without actually throwing.


We won.

I made the Direwolf hide in the back so I wouldn't kill him.

Then the Grasshopper joined the Direwolf so I wouldn't kill him as well.

Then I gave the position to my Team and they crushed both of them.

My Pilot Skill Rating should have gone up for terrifying a Direwolf like that alone, not to mention a Kill.

#6 CFC Conky

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:01 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:

We won.

I made the Direwolf hide in the back so I wouldn't kill him.

Then the Grasshopper joined the Direwolf so I wouldn't kill him as well.

Then I gave the position to my Team and they crushed both of them.

My Pilot Skill Rating should have gone up for terrifying a Direwolf like that alone, not to mention a Kill.


No.

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:09 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:

We won.

I made the Direwolf hide in the back so I wouldn't kill him.

Then the Grasshopper joined the Direwolf so I wouldn't kill him as well.

Then I gave the position to my Team and they crushed both of them.

My Pilot Skill Rating should have gone up for terrifying a Direwolf like that alone, not to mention a Kill.


Unfortunately PSR seems to weigh damage over any other sort of contribution. It would be hard to program it to somehow detect nuanced contributions like that even though they're absolutely essential for winning games at times. Teamates should recognize it though. You eliminated a 100 ton threat with a Spider, that's well played.

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:10 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 08:31 AM, said:

I don't have any armour on my Spider.

I'm a High-Risk Player.


Take more risks. Get more shots in.

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:13 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:


We won.

I made the Direwolf hide in the back so I wouldn't kill him.

Then the Grasshopper joined the Direwolf so I wouldn't kill him as well.

Then I gave the position to my Team and they crushed both of them.

My Pilot Skill Rating should have gone up for terrifying a Direwolf like that alone, not to mention a Kill.


Your pilot rating would have gone up if you'd actually taken them out instead of tickling them and asking your team mates to finish the job.

#10 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:21 AM

just did 665 dmg with a Spider minus all of the armour.

No kills though.

#11 Mechwarrior2342356

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:22 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 09:21 AM, said:

just did 665 dmg with a Spider minus all of the armour.

No kills though.

Great. Do it some more.

#12 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:22 AM

View PostRickySpanish, on 30 July 2023 - 09:13 AM, said:

Your pilot rating would have gone up if you'd actually taken them out instead of tickling them and asking your team mates to finish the job.


We would not have won the game if I didn't harass the Long Range mechs while slaughtering one of them.

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:24 AM

View PostfeeWAIVER, on 30 July 2023 - 09:10 AM, said:


Take more risks. Get more shots in.


665 dmg, but we couldn't grab the W.

200 dmg and a W.

Make sense of that.

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Edited by GM Patience, 03 August 2023 - 09:33 AM.
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#14 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 09:31 AM

OK, it seems I need to do 595 dmg and 4 kills to get a positive skill rating.

This is nuts.

Am I being penalized for scores in the past?

How exactly is this PSR calculated?

I think we can do a better job.

Edited by D Sync, 30 July 2023 - 09:31 AM.


#15 Mechwarrior2342356

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 10:22 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 09:31 AM, said:

OK, it seems I need to do 595 dmg and 4 kills to get a positive skill rating.

This is nuts.

Am I being penalized for scores in the past?

How exactly is this PSR calculated?

I think we can do a better job.

It's been gone over re: PSR calc.

MM, tier, PSR, all of it is old ground that keeps being retread in an endless circle while we wait in vain for research to be done and every reason has already been given for not sweating PSR and Tier. If you want PSR up ezpz, the Spider is not your mech.

#16 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 10:49 AM

View Postthe check engine light, on 30 July 2023 - 10:22 AM, said:

It's been gone over re: PSR calc.

MM, tier, PSR, all of it is old ground that keeps being retread in an endless circle while we wait in vain for research to be done and every reason has already been given for not sweating PSR and Tier. If you want PSR up ezpz, the Spider is not your mech.


This sounds like defeat.

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 10:59 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 09:22 AM, said:

We would not have won the game if I didn't harass the Long Range mechs while slaughtering one of them.

You did 200 damage to 2 mechs, you didn't "slaughter" much but maybe their back armor.

#18 D Sync

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 11:01 AM

View Postsycocys, on 30 July 2023 - 10:59 AM, said:

You did 200 damage to 2 mechs, you didn't "slaughter" much but maybe their back armor.


I touched all of the mechs. When I play that mech it is meant to harass and confuse the enemy. If I get really brave I'll do 600+ dmg and 4+ kills without any armour.

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 11:03 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 09:24 AM, said:


665 dmg, but we couldn't grab the W.

200 dmg and a W.

Make sense of that.



If you don't have anything positive to contribute in this discussion I suggest you find your way out, Troll.


You're arrow went up on the loss, and went down on the win.
The difference is you did 3x the contribution toward the loss than you did the win.

#20 Mechwarrior2342356

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Posted 30 July 2023 - 11:12 AM

View PostD Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 11:01 AM, said:


I touched all of the mechs. When I play that mech it is meant to harass and confuse the enemy. If I get really brave I'll do 600+ dmg and 4+ kills without any armour.

So do that or the other thing. Do you want to tickle everyone or get green arrow?





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