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[D Sync]

feeWAIVER, on 30 July 2023 - 11:03 AM, said:

You're arrow went up on the loss, and went down on the win.
The difference is you did 3x the contribution toward the loss than you did the win.

We wouldn't have won the first match if I didn't harass the long range mechs and make them hide in a corner.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

D Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 11:20 AM, said:

We wouldn't have won the first match if I didn't harass the long range mechs and make them hide in a corner.

Winning match != psr up

[D Sync]

the check engine light, on 30 July 2023 - 11:25 AM, said:

Winning match != psr up

I should have at least had an equal outcome, no increase or decrease.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

D Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 11:31 AM, said:

I should have at least had an equal outcome, no increase or decrease.

Should have?

[D Sync]

the check engine light, on 30 July 2023 - 11:38 AM, said:

Should have?

We won, I killed one mech and subjugated two others.

I shouldn't have lost PSR.

Edited by D Sync, 30 July 2023 - 11:42 AM.

[Curccu]

D Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 11:20 AM, said:

We wouldn't have won the first match if I didn't harass the long range mechs and make them hide in a corner.

Speculations.

D Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 11:41 AM, said:

We won, I killed one mech and subjugated two others.

I shouldn't have lost PSR.

Kill itself isn't very valuable, KMDD and solo kills are.

How do you suggest game would know to reward you if you make few enemy mechs to hide?

[SafeScanner]

Change your tactics if you meet the say people again and again they will know what to expect use and abuse your JJ get into positions faster then run away keep them guessing back stabbing will only go so far

[sycocys]

D Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 11:01 AM, said:

I touched all of the mechs.

You did 200 damage to 12 mechs. 16 damage per mech.
You didn't slaughter any mechs.

[PsionicMantis]

https://mwomercs.com...ity-version-10/
just gonna leave the formula here

[crazytimes]

It's really weird how when you demonstrate poor performance it gives poor results.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

D Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 08:20 AM, said:

Why is it when I get one (1) kill and roughly 200 dmg with a Spider and my Pilot Skill Rating goes down?

Because the game rewards sloppy, bad aim, high raw damage, and kill stealing.

Arguably, a higher pilot rating is a negative, as the MM will effectively punish you for being a good player .

Clean low damage kills are not only a better showing of how good you are as a player, but you'll also be rewarded with lower pilot rating rankings. Unfortunately its an inevitable matter of time before you end up as tier 1 and then at which point the pilot ranking is irrelevant except for bads who think that matters for some reason.

The real skill in MWO is being able to lead a successful push with inept team mates, or corral the enemy team with a light and medium to force a victory for your awful awful teammates. The light or medium forcing the enemy team to give up good positions with pressure, or working with team mates to focus fire to kill enemies fast will always have lower score board, despite that they are clearly far more experienced or better players. A dead enemy is a harmless enemy, and killing them fast with the least damage possible means no rewards.

Stat/damage farming for CBills is never something to be ashamed of if you're in need of more cash for the mechlab. So in that case take a missile boat of any flavor and laser vomit and start taking off legs and side torsos. You may not get more wins, but you'll certainly get paid. AC2/5 boating is also great as the high dps means you can shred and farm a lot of damage very fast on the sheer number of assualt mechs walking around since last patch.

Edited by 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie, 31 July 2023 - 07:53 AM.

[PublicWifi]

80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie, on 31 July 2023 - 07:53 AM, said:

Because the game rewards sloppy, bad aim, high raw damage, and kill stealing.

This.

[Meep Meep]

80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie, on 31 July 2023 - 07:53 AM, said:

Unfortunately its an inevitable matter of time before you end up as tier 1 and then at which point the pilot ranking is irrelevant except for bads who think that matters for some reason.

This isn't true anymore after the psr changes of yore and the great psr reset. Before then psr was basically an accumulative stat and any potato could ~eventually~ get to tier 1. Now it punishes bad play so in tier 1 there are no 'bads' just a spectrum of above average players from decent to world class. It's just that the world class level players make the decent ones look 'bad'.

[TheCaptainJZ]

D Sync, on 30 July 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:

We won.

I made the Direwolf hide in the back so I wouldn't kill him.

Then the Grasshopper joined the Direwolf so I wouldn't kill him as well.

Then I gave the position to my Team and they crushed both of them.

My Pilot Skill Rating should have gone up for terrifying a Direwolf like that alone, not to mention a Kill.

How can you translate that into a number to be used for PSR though. How do you quantify and measure those kinds of fuzzy actions? Even to human observers, determining how valuable those actions were is going to be very subjective and debatable in most cases.

Did your actions contribute to the match? Sure. Were they heavily responsible for the win? Who knows? And say this time it was the difference between winning and losing, but what about next time? There's no good way to assign a value to those kinds of behaviors. It can't be consistently measured for any given player in any given match.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Here's an explanation how the current PSR setting works:

[PocketYoda]

Stop using spiders and use a mech with weapons added.

[Meep Meep]

PocketYoda, on 31 July 2023 - 11:00 PM, said:

Stop using spiders and use a mech with weapons added.

Triple lppc spider d can put in some work though the weapon arm is weak so you have to deadside twist to protect it. The rest are meh unless you have some serious spider parkour skills. We need a paper napkin design non lore spider added in that has some side torso energy mounts.

[Curccu]

Meep Meep, on 01 August 2023 - 04:29 AM, said:

We need a paper napkin design non lore spider added in that has some side torso energy mounts.

You want spider that isn't spider so here you go, spider that isn't spider that has side torso energy mounts

[SafeScanner]

SDR-5K can do wonders and also die very fast but if you can pull it off its rewarding as hell i expect to get kicked down to tier 4 soon

Edited by SafeScanner, 01 August 2023 - 08:30 AM.

[Curccu]

SafeScanner, on 01 August 2023 - 08:28 AM, said:

SDR-5K can do wonders and also die very fast but if you can pull it off its rewarding as hell i expect to get kicked down to tier 4 soon

sdr-5k Something like this can be stupidly annoying and dangerous, should do twice or triple the damage OP did pretty easily.