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[MechB Kotare]

I would like to ask, if we could finally get an option to target ally battlemechs as well. Its a feature that was in all previous MW titles including MW5. The reason i ask for this is simply to know loadouts and armor/structure status of my team mates, to better adjust to specific situatuations. Pls don't tell me the engine doesn't allow that. Thanks.

[martian]

MechB Kotare, on 19 August 2023 - 03:06 AM, said:

I would like to ask, if we could finally get an option to target ally battlemechs as well. Its a feature that was in all previous MW titles including MW5. The reason i ask for this is simply to know loadouts and armor/structure status of my team mates, to better adjust to specific situatuations. Pls don't tell me the engine doesn't allow that. Thanks.

People have been asking for this feature since the beginning of MWO. No luck so far.

[MechB Kotare]

martian, on 19 August 2023 - 03:38 AM, said:

People have been asking for this feature since the beginning of MWO. No luck so far.

Yes in know as me being one of them. They are finally making damage on paper doll update faster, so i thought the very same person behind such revolutionary QoL improvement, could potentionally also try implementing a minor, and yet much useful feature such as this as well.

[martian]

MechB Kotare, on 19 August 2023 - 03:50 AM, said:

Yes in know as me being one of them. They are finally making damage on paper doll update faster, so i thought the very same person behind such revolutionary QoL improvement, could potentionally also try implementing a minor, and yet much useful feature such as this as well.

I have always found it comical that I can scan enemy 'Mechs, but I have no way of knowing if that friendly Catapult just next to my 'Mech runs LRMs or SRMs. So much for that Russ Bullock's "information warfare".

[Saved By The Bell]

But you could attack teammate with LRM or streaks with this option...

[KursedVixen]

MechB Kotare, on 19 August 2023 - 03:06 AM, said:

I would like to ask, if we could finally get an option to target ally battlemechs as well. Its a feature that was in all previous MW titles including MW5. The reason i ask for this is simply to know loadouts and armor/structure status of my team mates, to better adjust to specific situatuations. Pls don't tell me the engine doesn't allow that. Thanks.

Is it possible in Mechwarrior Living legends? Because it runs on the same engine yet somehow outpreforms MWO in most aspects..

Saved By The Bell, on 19 August 2023 - 07:43 AM, said:

But you could attack teammate with LRM or streaks with this option...

Why would you do that and also if it's setup right you shouldn't lock on to allies.

Edited by KursedVixen, 19 August 2023 - 07:56 AM.

[MechB Kotare]

Saved By The Bell, on 19 August 2023 - 07:43 AM, said:

But you could attack teammate with LRM or streaks with this option...

Ok? I mean, 80% of weapons are capable of team killing, but lets not implement allies targetting, because that would allow 100% of weapons in the game to team kill...

Not sure if you are serious or not...

KursedVixen, on 19 August 2023 - 07:55 AM, said:

Is it possible in Mechwarrior Living legends? Because it runs on the same engine yet somehow outpreforms MWO in most aspects..

Honestly i'm not sure, it's been two or three years since i last playyed LL. But i would believe so, as I also agree that some things MWLL did much better.

Edited by MechB Kotare, 19 August 2023 - 08:00 AM.

[KursedVixen]

MechB Kotare, on 19 August 2023 - 07:56 AM, said:

Ok? I mean, 80% of weapons are capable of team killing, but lets not implement allies targetting, because that would allow 100% of weapons in the game to team kill...

Not sure if you are serious or not...


Honestly i'm not sure, it's been two or three years since i last playyed LL. But i would believe so, as I also agree that some things MWLL did much better.

All i know is if MWLL does it so can MWO, though so far the only thing MWLL didn't do better than MWO is graphics inside the cockpits but the gameplay i feel is much more intense also, repairs and refits.

[martian]

Saved By The Bell, on 19 August 2023 - 07:43 AM, said:

But you could attack teammate with LRM or streaks with this option...

You can do already attack them with autocannons, lasers, PPCs or Gauss Rifles ... and with SRMs or MRMs, of course.

Should you attack your lancemates with LRMs or Streaks, you would incurr the same penalty for the team damage as you do now.

[SafeScanner]

If they did it like MW5 it would just be Q and hover over teammate for info no lock ons required

in the end don't see the point you can just ask whats their loadout and if you want to know their state look at their health% for a somewhat informed idea
if they added stuff that made looking up too easy people will become lazy and less talking/teamwork will happen and a potential knock on effect people may start greifing looking at mech builds and deciding not to bother or calling them out (them try hards) sometimes ignorance is bliss

[MechB Kotare]

SafeScanner, on 19 August 2023 - 08:45 AM, said:

If they did it like MW5 it would just be Q and hover over teammate for info no lock ons required

in the end don't see the point you can just ask whats their loadout and if you want to know their state look at their health% for a somewhat informed idea
if they added stuff that made looking up too easy people will become lazy and less talking/teamwork will happen and a potential knock on effect people may start greifing looking at mech builds and deciding not to bother or calling them out (them try hards) sometimes ignorance is bliss

Yes, of course you can ask, but there is 60% to 80% chance you wont get an answer, especially on EU servers, where majority doesnt speak english, and even if they do, they write what they have to say, so its naive to think that ''just asking'' is what will get you important intel about your team mates as soon as possible. Also speed of information gathering in vital, especially in high tiers. Its faster to just press a button, than asking and then waiting couple of seconds for an answer, that doesn't even have to come.

Percentage tells you only amount of their entire armor value. It's very inaccurate information. For example: A mech can have 50%, and still have armor on every single part of the mech. Mech can also have 70%, and be completely cored with cherry red ct.

Also no, ignorance is not bliss. Numerical advantage is mostly key to victory, a mech with cherry red CT can still be valuable asset to the battle, especially when its weapons are intact. Now i can act, based on information, whether i should use a team mate as armor, or hes close to death and i should be the one to push/tank.

Edited by MechB Kotare, 19 August 2023 - 09:04 AM.

[martian]

SafeScanner, on 19 August 2023 - 08:45 AM, said:

in the end don't see the point you can just ask whats their loadout and if you want to know their state look at their health% for a somewhat informed idea

Do you think that I would remember who has what loadout after five or ten minutes? And what weapons he still has left after ten minutes?

SafeScanner, on 19 August 2023 - 08:45 AM, said:

if they added stuff that made looking up too easy people will become lazy and less talking/teamwork will happen and a potential knock on effect people may start greifing looking at mech builds and deciding not to bother or calling them out (them try hards) sometimes ignorance is bliss

If you would like to see more teamwork, then knowing what friendly 'Mech has got what loadout and thus knowing what I can expect from him would certainly help.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

SafeScanner, on 19 August 2023 - 08:45 AM, said:

If they did it like MW5 it would just be Q and hover over teammate for info no lock ons required

in the end don't see the point you can just ask whats their loadout and if you want to know their state look at their health% for a somewhat informed idea
if they added stuff that made looking up too easy people will become lazy and less talking/teamwork will happen and a potential knock on effect people may start greifing looking at mech builds and deciding not to bother or calling them out (them try hards) sometimes ignorance is bliss

It's not a UI/HUD's job to moderate player behavior, really, and the positives far outweigh those negatives.

[lovely-alfajores-0acb13]

Lies.

You just wanna target me with Lurms because I sniped you in the back with my Flea that one time.

Edited by lovely-alfajores-0acb13, 19 August 2023 - 11:43 AM.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

lovely-alfajores-0acb13, on 19 August 2023 - 11:41 AM, said:

Lies.

You just wanna target me with Lurms because I sniped you in the back with my Flea that one time.

Don't worry, they'll probably be as minimally effective as they are vs Reds

[SafeScanner]

the check engine light, on 19 August 2023 - 11:33 AM, said:

It's not a UI/HUD's job to moderate player behavior, really, and the positives far outweigh those negatives.

thats true its not the UI/hud job to handle people but i have concerns of a dimishing need to talk/communicate in any form and potential aggravation from people whom may not agree on a persons choices/tastes

martian, on 19 August 2023 - 09:07 AM, said:

Do you think that I would remember who has what loadout after five or ten minutes? And what weapons he still has left after ten minutes?
If you would like to see more teamwork, then knowing what friendly 'Mech has got what loadout and thus knowing what I can expect from him would certainly help.

no i would'nt expect you to remeber everyones loadout even myself would'nt

a loadout does not decide a persons charator yes it can give you an idea of what they can do but ultimately its out of your control so i would say never assume

MechB Kotare, on 19 August 2023 - 09:01 AM, said:

Yes, of course you can ask, but there is 60% to 80% chance you wont get an answer, especially on EU servers, where majority doesnt speak english, and even if they do, they write what they have to say, so its naive to think that ''just asking'' is what will get you important intel about your team mates as soon as possible. Also speed of information gathering in vital, especially in high tiers. Its faster to just press a button, than asking and then waiting couple of seconds for an answer, that doesn't even have to come.

Percentage tells you only amount of their entire armor value. It's very inaccurate information. For example: A mech can have 50%, and still have armor on every single part of the mech. Mech can also have 70%, and be completely cored with cherry red ct.

Also no, ignorance is not bliss. Numerical advantage is mostly key to victory, a mech with cherry red CT can still be valuable asset to the battle, especially when its weapons are intact. Now i can act, based on information, whether i should use a team mate as armor, or hes close to death and i should be the one to push/tank.

Yes you are correct not alot of people use comms and the language barrier will always be an issue but i have found that people using comms and asking simple yes/no questions get answer fast is it perfect no will you always get a response no but if you try (and not be salty) you may convince people to to pick up that microphone getting one person to start using a microphone is a victory for mwo and may lead to more people talking (lofty ideas i know)

gonna sound like a contradtion here but i am not too fussed about seeing a mechs health displayed mostly just the weapon systems and i should of explained this better previously

again as i have said before a loadout does not decide the charactor of a person don't assume

lastly just to be clear Seeing mechs Health/Armor i am fine will no complaints, i only have issues with seeing a persons weapons and people assuming (because people will) and get upset and the dimishing of voice comms or need of everything else go nuts

hope this helps clear this up

[Mechwarrior2342356]

I think the impact it would have on comms and player interactions would be pretty minimal. It behooves players to try and utilize teammates as well as can be managed regardless of their loadouts. That's all player choices and making poor choices typically gives poor results.

[JediPanther]

martian, on 19 August 2023 - 04:06 AM, said:

I have always found it comical that I can scan enemy 'Mechs, but I have no way of knowing if that friendly Catapult just next to my 'Mech runs LRMs or SRMs. So much for that Russ Bullock's "information warfare".

I use to just ask but then i got use to the silence of both voice coms and no typed reply. I just asume it's a lrm-er until they fire. With the new nerf to all missiles I could care less. The game is now designed to soley cater to the meta laser,guass,ppc users. missile users be damed.

[Half Ear]

martian, on 19 August 2023 - 08:32 AM, said:

You can do already attack them with autocannons, lasers, PPCs or Gauss Rifles ... and with SRMs or MRMs, of course.

Should you attack your lancemates with LRMs or Streaks, you would incurr the same penalty for the team damage as you do now.

Streaks would still be a no-go but one can dumb fire LRMs (aka MRM the things) against teammates to damage them now, except IS LRM would do no damage within the 180m minimum range PGI has setup. It is both funny and sad to see a IS mech do that against an enemy, and they brought no backup/close range weapons and didnt team up with with another.

[KursedVixen]

martian, on 19 August 2023 - 09:07 AM, said:

Do you think that I would remember who has what loadout after five or ten minutes? And what weapons he still has left after ten minutes?

Who says their going to tell you what they have? They could be a total ******* and just respond with something stupid like "My mech is full of love." or some other smartass comment.... To add to your comment.