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[Davegt27]

Edited by Davegt27, 04 November 2023 - 08:11 AM.

[VeeOt Dragon]

honestly just play what you have fun with is my go to. if your chasing that "Top Player" tag so hard that you aren't having fun then whats the point in it. its one of the reasons i am constantly trying new builds chassis and ideas. the game would get super boring super quick if all i ever played were the same 3 meta builds on every mech all the time.

hell LRM suck *** nowdays but that doesn't mean i am ever going to stop using them.

[Meep Meep]

Katrina Steiner, on 20 October 2023 - 06:00 AM, said:

Next map should be named "Big Whiskey".

A 'western' themed map would be cool though I guess canyon network is kinda the alien equivalent with those leafy cactus looking things. Maybe another using the same texture set with low mesa scattered about with big boulders in the low ground for cover. Kinda like the colosseum map but instead of metal mushrooms there are mesa.

[Horseman]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 20 October 2023 - 04:35 AM, said:

when your heatsinks have nothing to do, you're doing it wrong (most of the time)
hitting stuff is a huge bonus, though ;-)

The creed of aggressive player.
1. Heat is not a penalty; heat capacity is a resource, use it.
2. You're not paid extra for bringing ammo home
3. You're not paid extra for bringing your paintjob home without scratches
4. Don't eat damage unnecessarily, but if it comes to it remember...
5. ... that you're not paid extra for bringing your mech home in one piece

[Rumble Chicken]

Hi , your game is a blast always has been and its certainly entertaining.

Seems to me its all turning gray from 10 to 100 with 50t at the bottom of the funnel.

10t destroys a 100t in 3 seconds,

100t alphas anything 2 times should be eliminated,

50t shoots anything 30 times and it lives,

Shoot a light ALOT and no death.

you should be cunning effective and a great shot in a light and you must HIDE ! and do it well .... but thats not whats happening.

...and also ive been around for along while could you fix my profile so I get emails and able to communicate with others through messaging. your friend and always fun to play with Me.

[BlueDevilspawn]

Meep Meep, on 17 October 2023 - 09:48 PM, said:

Oh I'm not seeing a threat. I'm seen as a threat.




Traveling nap of the earth is key to getting into position undetected. Infantry tactics convert quite well in this game.

Um if you mean traveling "nape" of the earth as in pathing in the low ground, not really. There are some situations if you're a slow brawler (or a short range mech in general) you don't want to expose unnecessarily and rely on your team to scout early game. But if you have even mid range and certainly long range, you want lines as early as possible.

It's possible you mean "don't take unnecessary early damage" but I won't even dignify the argument that low ground is otherwise worth crap. Why do you think so many of the best players rage at their "low ground enjoyer" teammates? No excuses, get to the high ground and shoot.

[pbiggz]

the check engine light, on 23 October 2023 - 07:03 AM, said:

There are no 10t mechs...? Not sure what this has to do with thread topic.

Ignore, just the usual "i died to a light so they should all be removed" nonsense.

[BlueDevilspawn]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 20 October 2023 - 04:35 AM, said:

he's right.

but when not talking about "the top of the top", but the difference between t4-5 and t1-2
then it's
"shoot more" for most of them.

when your heatsinks have nothing to do, you're doing it wrong (most of the time)
hitting stuff is a huge bonus, though ;-)

I don't consider myself "top of the top" and I still follow the principles that Vx outlined and I do just fine. Awareness is huge.

[BlueDevilspawn]

pbiggz, on 19 October 2023 - 10:42 AM, said:

In other words, practice.

I'm not sure anyone outside of top comp teams "practices" that much. Our practice tends to be comp specific anyway. Your point oversells what Vx is saying. You don't need to practice to be aware (sure repetition helps), you just need to be attentive and be that way over and over in your matches.

[Meep Meep]

BlueDevilspawn, on 23 October 2023 - 12:04 PM, said:

Um if you mean traveling "nape" of the earth as in pathing in the low ground, not really. There are some situations if you're a slow brawler (or a short range mech in general) you don't want to expose unnecessarily and rely on your team to scout early game. But if you have even mid range and certainly long range, you want lines as early as possible.

It's possible you mean "don't take unnecessary early damage" but I won't even dignify the argument that low ground is otherwise worth crap. Why do you think so many of the best players rage at their "low ground enjoyer" teammates? No excuses, get to the high ground and shoot.

I play mainly lights and fast mediums so yeah I go low ground a lot but usually right at the edge of the ridgeline so I can pop off an opportunity shot if possible. You are talking about nascar of the slow mechs hugging the lowest possible terrain till they get overrun and die. Thats not taking the low ground thats just not wanting to get their pixels scratched.

[BlueDevilspawn]

Fair enough, had to make that distinction

[An6ryMan69]

Good players also seem to know what they are good at and what they are not.

While guys like me skill grind whatever mech they just bought (because it was shiny and on sale...) I've heard a few good players comment like "I don't play lights." or "I only play mediums." I guess that would help.

And situational awareness...always.

[foamyesque]

Meep Meep, on 23 October 2023 - 12:13 PM, said:

I play mainly lights and fast mediums so yeah I go low ground a lot but usually right at the edge of the ridgeline so I can pop off an opportunity shot if possible. You are talking about nascar of the slow mechs hugging the lowest possible terrain till they get overrun and die. Thats not taking the low ground thats just not wanting to get their pixels scratched.

Last time I dropped against you, it was kinda funny: "Oh, that's Meep Meep on the other side, watch for a flank". First contact: a Shadow Cat circling 'round. Comms: "That'll be Meep Meep".

SPOILERS:

It was.

Last guy on the oppo team to go down, too.

Edited by foamyesque, 30 October 2023 - 02:01 PM.

[Meep Meep]

foamyesque, on 30 October 2023 - 11:42 AM, said:

Last time I dropped against you, it was kinda funny: "Oh, that's Meep Meep on the other side, watch for a flank". First contact: a Shadow Cat circling 'round. Comms: "That'll be Meep Meep".

SPOILERS:

It was. Last guy on the oppo team to go down, too.

This is why I use alts between meep meep breaks. I've grown too notorious..

[Horseman]

the check engine light, on 23 October 2023 - 06:26 AM, said:

Survival bonus.
Unless you're just referring to component loss.

I mean that you should not operate with the mindset of preserving your mech at any price. I've seen people throw matches they could have won because one of the surviving mechs was in position to take an objective... and the pilot was too afraid to risk his mech to do that. So we lost. I've also seen matches where a group of heavier but damaged mechs loses to a single light or medium mech because they're too scared to gang up on him because each doesn't want to lose his mech.
Survival is a bonus, not a requirement. Your mech is a means to an end. Your job as a pilot is to maximize its value for your team. Sometimes it means losing the mech to buy an advantage.

[Meep Meep]

Horseman, on 30 October 2023 - 01:52 PM, said:

I've also seen matches where a group of heavier but damaged mechs loses to a single light or medium mech because they're too scared to gang up on him because each doesn't want to lose his mech.

This is my dream end of match situation. Last light vs a bunch of beat up mechs. That's when it gets ~fun~.

[VeeOt Dragon]

An6ryMan69, on 30 October 2023 - 11:18 AM, said:

Good players also seem to know what they are good at and what they are not.

While guys like me skill grind whatever mech they just bought (because it was shiny and on sale...) I've heard a few good players comment like "I don't play lights." or "I only play mediums." I guess that would help.

And situational awareness...always.

yeah i am one of those folks that "doesn't play lights" well unless you cont Urbies, i play those when i just want to **** around. though i would never claim to be a top player, i'm middle of the road most of the time.

[Besh]

https://mwomercs.com...s-not-a-tactic/

Timeless classic that still seems to apply to ~80+% of the players I see .

[Jon Gotham]

Usually for me, pure misery. The mate I play with just logged off in disgust. He was duelling another locust, a 1V. At 140kph+ , with angling variation, stutter steeping etc the guy kept just one of his legs in PERFECT trail with a large x pulse. He literally didn't miss ( I was watching as i was already dead, 1 shotted on the move, zig zagging at 140kph+ from at least 500m out...).
I looked the guy up, averages 97% on jarl's. Thing is, he doesn't play enough games per month to get enough practice in to be that good-unless he is a physical savant.
Mixing in as a tier 3 player with tier 1's is not much fun...for me. They get to have their fun though.