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#81 RickySpanish

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Posted 25 December 2023 - 02:22 PM

View PostMechB Kotare, on 25 December 2023 - 11:41 AM, said:


So you have no counter argument, other than ''Brawl sucks, i hate it so noob tactic, what i play is more skilled''.

What a child answer.


Counter argument for 'I enjoy running into my opponent and shooting until one of us dies'? I wasn't aware one was needed. I suppose once you hit tier 1 you occasionally you have to twist right?

#82 MechB Kotare

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Posted 25 December 2023 - 02:36 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 25 December 2023 - 02:22 PM, said:

Counter argument for 'I enjoy running into my opponent and shooting until one of us dies'? I wasn't aware one was needed. I suppose once you hit tier 1 you occasionally you have to twist right?


You sounds like someone who gets killed by brawlers alot. Just because you are bad at the game, doesnt mean that the thing, that is killing you doesnt require skill to do right.

Edited by MechB Kotare, 25 December 2023 - 02:37 PM.


#83 RickySpanish

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Posted 25 December 2023 - 05:30 PM

View PostMechB Kotare, on 25 December 2023 - 02:36 PM, said:


You sounds like someone who gets killed by brawlers alot. Just because you are bad at the game, doesnt mean that the thing, that is killing you doesnt require skill to do right.


Impossible; I don't pilot anything slow enough to get caught by a brawler. I am much more likely to get popped by PPCs and gauss rifles, or worn away by blue lasers. That's why I afford those builds and players the respect they deserve.

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Posted 25 December 2023 - 10:42 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 25 December 2023 - 05:30 PM, said:

Impossible; I don't pilot anything slow enough to get caught by a brawler. I am much more likely to get popped by PPCs and gauss rifles, or worn away by blue lasers. That's why I afford those builds and players the respect they deserve.


A non-trivial number of brawlers are lights and mediums. Pretty sure some of them can catch you even if you're a dedicated light player.

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Posted 25 December 2023 - 11:04 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 25 December 2023 - 11:26 AM, said:

Brawling is brain dead, literally the lowest skill tactic. Long range requires much more skill and gets rewarded accordingly.

Yeah, it's holy war, but do you really think, that pew-pewing blue lazors from 1k meters, i.e. 100% safety - requires more skill, than going close to enemies, that is extremely risky? Only "invulnerable" Lights can do it easily. But even they rely mostly on luck and noobish enemies. Just one lucky Gauss/PPC shot - and perfect plan goes to trash.

Edited by MrMadguy, 25 December 2023 - 11:05 PM.


#86 Mechwarrior2342356

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 07:20 AM

The **** does respect have to do with anything? Why the **** should anyone, brawler or otherwise, give a damn if you respect them? Rather the opposite. Sure, fail to allocate the amount of respect necessary to a brawler's AC20+Snubs, let me know how that works for you bruh.

#87 RickySpanish

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 08:16 AM

Why would you be afraid of a 40 point alpha (45? with splash? Eh who cares) that can only be fired at short range by someone who has in all likelihood, taken those weapons because they don't know how to play a range bracket that requires any sort of tactical prowess? Bonus if it's some goober 'leading the charge' in a King Crab or Fafnir.

#88 Mechwarrior2342356

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 08:34 AM

Fear != respect

But get on with your bad self, I completely understand why you think they're synonymous given what else I know of you lmao

also CRD6T = 65pt+10splash with 2SNPPC 12SL, no staggering needed.

Edited by the check engine light, 26 December 2023 - 06:16 PM.


#89 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 10:02 AM

View PostMechB Kotare, on 25 December 2023 - 11:41 AM, said:


So you have no counter argument, other than ''Brawl sucks, i hate it so noob tactic, what i play is more skilled''.

What a child answer.

To be fair, in coordinated environments, brawl rushes is typically what lesser teams opt for against better teams. However PUGs aren't coordinated and even in dedicated brawls like 4/4/0/0 in the old school MRBC drops, understanding how to brawl was something few knew how to do (there is a difference between knowing how to push and how to brawl, different concepts).

#90 RickySpanish

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 12:55 PM

View Postthe check engine light, on 26 December 2023 - 08:34 AM, said:

Fear != respect

But get on with your bad self, I completely understand why you think they're synonymous given what else I know of you lmao

also CRD6T = 65pt+10splash with 2SNPPC 10SL, no staggering needed.


What? 65 damage between two weapon types at close range? Boy, that's just sad. It's like, last year's meta bruh. 80 *pinpoint* is the new black. If you are going to do close range lasers then go big or go home. 15 heavy small laser Nova is a lot more spectacular.

#91 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 04:01 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 26 December 2023 - 12:55 PM, said:

What? 65 damage between two weapon types at close range? Boy, that's just sad. It's like, last year's meta bruh. 80 *pinpoint* is the new black. If you are going to do close range lasers then go big or go home. 15 heavy small laser Nova is a lot more spectacular.

Wat, maybe if you like 2 seconds of stare time, or you could just do 6 SPL/9 ERmL lasers and do little over half in a third of that time.

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 04:15 PM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 26 December 2023 - 04:01 PM, said:

Wat, maybe if you like 2 seconds of stare time, or you could just do 6 SPL/9 ERmL lasers and do little over half in a third of that time.


You could do that.

Edited by RickySpanish, 26 December 2023 - 04:16 PM.


#93 Mechwarrior2342356

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 05:29 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 26 December 2023 - 12:55 PM, said:


What? 65 damage between two weapon types at close range? Boy, that's just sad. It's like, last year's meta bruh. 80 *pinpoint* is the new black. If you are going to do close range lasers then go big or go home. 15 heavy small laser Nova is a lot more spectacular.

You said 40 and you were wrong. Next.

#94 RickySpanish

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 09:49 PM

View Postthe check engine light, on 26 December 2023 - 05:29 PM, said:

You said 40 and you were wrong. Next.


No i wasn't, you said AC20 + snubs in your first post, and then after my reply, changed it to the only slightly less pathetic snubs and small lasers. It's all there if you care to take your finger off the w key for a moment and look.

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 09:53 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 26 December 2023 - 09:49 PM, said:

No i wasn't, you said AC20 + snubs in your first post, and then after my reply, changed it to the only slightly less pathetic snubs and small lasers. It's all there if you care to take your finger off the w key for a moment and look.

I don't remember why you ever pipe up in these conversations to begin with. You don't brawl, clearly, so what exactly is your goal? I mean, besides being on a shortlist for a one way expedition into the Siberian wilderness to stir a big black kettle.

You prefer sniping, very clearly so, so **** off and snipe.

Edited by the check engine light, 26 December 2023 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2023 - 10:14 PM

I don't play long range builds often, though I did using 2 ER PPCs during snub-pocalypse (tbh I didn't think they were overtuned) just to stick it to all the urbies. What I play is usually a reflection of what I think will best work against the prevailing nature of players in soup queue. For the last little bit that's been mid or close range Lights. They have the speed to deal with unexpected team positioning, and to +1 to any fight. My longest range build right now is the LPPC ECM Spider in EQ, because anything will work there.

Edited by RickySpanish, 26 December 2023 - 10:16 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2023 - 12:25 AM

View PostRickySpanish, on 26 December 2023 - 09:49 PM, said:

No i wasn't, you said AC20 + snubs in your first post, and then after my reply, changed it to the only slightly less pathetic snubs and small lasers. It's all there if you care to take your finger off the w key for a moment and look.


AC20 + Snubs is a plenty powerful loadout in the hands of someone who can aim.

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Posted 27 December 2023 - 02:31 AM

HPG design doesnt scary your AC20 + Snubs.

Wanna get snipers? Try to get them.

Edited by Saved By The Bell, 27 December 2023 - 02:32 AM.


#99 Besh

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Posted 27 December 2023 - 02:46 AM

View PostSaved By The Bell, on 27 December 2023 - 02:31 AM, said:

HPG design doesnt scary your AC20 + Snubs.

Wanna get snipers? Try to get them.


Its crazy how adamantly some Teams refuse to pressure the people up on the Walls .

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Posted 27 December 2023 - 03:11 AM

Ditching any of the maps are a bad idea imo...sure they coud use a touch up from time to time, but why completely do away with them?...it takes a lot of time to code a workable map, taking em out dosen't make sense to me....not like we got a ton of em to choose from anyhow.





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