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[Flash Riprock]

How do I acquire the new Commando?

Edited by Flash Riprock, 30 December 2023 - 03:54 PM.

[feeWAIVER]

Flash Riprock, on 30 December 2023 - 03:53 PM, said:

How do I acquire the new Commando?

MWO: Special Events (mwomercs.com)

[Meep Meep]

Christmas commando is a banger. Many ways to fit it but this one seems to be useful on near any map and situation.

https://mwo.nav-alph...85e801_COM-D03H

[Hawk819]

Now all we need is the IIC variant.

[foamyesque]

Meep Meep, on 30 December 2023 - 06:54 PM, said:

Christmas commando is a banger. Many ways to fit it but this one seems to be useful on near any map and situation.

https://mwo.nav-alph...85e801_COM-D03H

Honestly, the stock loadout's pretty close to perfect. Only change you need to make is to trade the SLs to ERSLs and you get perfectly sync'd weapons and a whole lotta zombie firepower.

[crazytimes]

Get 50 matchscore before about 40 hours from now.

I managed to do this whilst camping in a remote area, 7 year old laptop, wifi bridged via my phone to an intermittent router connected to satellite internet, direct sunlight on the screen, and repeated corrupted game files because the laptop was overheating in the monsoonal heatwave.

I believe that you too can achieve the lofty target of 50 matchscore. You just need to believe in yourself.

[w0qj]

Talking about dedication!!

Or, use a LRM Assault
(Let the flame wars start!)

crazytimes, on 30 December 2023 - 09:55 PM, said:

Get 50 matchscore before about 40 hours from now.

I managed to do this whilst camping in a remote area, 7 year old laptop, wifi bridged via my phone to an intermittent router connected to satellite internet, direct sunlight on the screen, and repeated corrupted game files because the laptop was overheating in the monsoonal heatwave.

I believe that you too can achieve the lofty target of 50 matchscore. You just need to believe in yourself.

[crazytimes]

w0qj, on 30 December 2023 - 11:03 PM, said:

Talking about dedication!!

Or, use a LRM Assault
(Let the flame wars start!)

Hey, free stuff is free stuff. I used an ATM boat on one account and an incubus on the other because it has no lockon weapons. It was not a great experience for anyone involved because the latency was not great.

[Meep Meep]

foamyesque, on 30 December 2023 - 07:45 PM, said:

Honestly, the stock loadout's pretty close to perfect. Only change you need to make is to trade the SLs to ERSLs and you get perfectly sync'd weapons and a whole lotta zombie firepower.

Yeah its nice with close range fits but its still a light with no armor quirks and only moderate structure buffs for the ct and legs. It's still a somewhat a tanky commando but range is always your best friend in a light if it supports it.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Thank you to all the new Commando pilots who have no idea how to Commando… peek over ridge, stop, Fire, back down, peek again in the exact same spot, stop…

Got my headshot award, folks, THANKS!

[foamyesque]

The thing about going to the LPPC fit is that now you're a slow XL machine with weak armour and structure on the STs. Going to XL or even a LFE with the D03 is a mistake because the low engine xap coupled with the armour of a 25t machine makes you vulnerable. MASC helps but only so far.

The R80 Urbie does triple LPPCs much better - it can even do dual snubs! - by virtue of massive armour quirks and ECM. If you're gonna drive a slow XL light, that's the one to do it with.

The only thing a D03 does better than any alternative is its zombie gimmick, so that's what it should be built for.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Agreed. Std 170, 5 ERML Masc. Done.

Just don’t stand still when you fire, kids!

[LordNothing]

its the mech that is very happy to see you.

[RickySpanish]

Yeah LPPC is better suited on the ECM Spider. You want to use STD or LFE on the Commando.

[Meep Meep]

foamyesque, on 31 December 2023 - 09:48 AM, said:

The thing about going to the LPPC fit is that now you're a slow XL machine with weak armour and structure on the STs. Going to XL or even a LFE with the D03 is a mistake because the low engine xap coupled with the armour of a 25t machine makes you vulnerable. MASC helps but only so far.

The R80 Urbie does triple LPPCs much better - it can even do dual snubs! - by virtue of massive armour quirks and ECM. If you're gonna drive a slow XL light, that's the one to do it with.

The only thing a D03 does better than any alternative is its zombie gimmick, so that's what it should be built for.

140ish isn't slow and with 621m optimal why are you getting shot up? You should be able to farm like a boss well outside most of your targets sphere of attention. The zombie trick only works for the close range fits and those don't last very long in the high tiers. Maybe lower tiers were no one can aim.

[RickySpanish]

Meep Meep, on 31 December 2023 - 01:45 PM, said:

140ish isn't slow and with 621m optimal why are you getting shot up? You should be able to farm like a boss well outside most of your targets sphere of attention. The zombie trick only works for the close range fits and those don't last very long in the high tiers. Maybe lower tiers were no one can aim.

It's mega tanky, even without skills. Losing a leg is a sad time though, and yeah anyone with a brain will not waste time trying to punch through your arms and torso. Once a leg goes you're completely screwed. Before then, you're practically a heavy albeit with a third of the firepower.

[__PLASMA__]

1Lppc 1Snub(or 2snubs) std engine and no armor arms and torso aka "the burning stick" xD very nice mech i like it

[foamyesque]

Meep Meep, on 31 December 2023 - 01:45 PM, said:

140ish isn't slow and with 621m optimal why are you getting shot up? You should be able to farm like a boss well outside most of your targets sphere of attention. The zombie trick only works for the close range fits and those don't last very long in the high tiers. Maybe lower tiers were no one can aim.

140ish with MASC and full speed tweak *is* slow for MASC and full speed tweak. I've got medium mechs that can outpace that. And you won't always be MASC-on, either, at which point you're doing 120ish in a machine that can carry a flat maximum of 46 hitpoints on a ST. That's less than some 'mechs have on their heads. All it takes is one guy catching you unawares and off it goes.

My current experience in playing with and against 'em is that they're relatively easy targets and an XL engine makes 'em easy to pop, but a zombie fit means you more or less have to go legs (or CT)... except the mounts are decent for ridge-peeking which makes nailing the legs a bit trickier, and the CT is the only thing on the 'mech with any kind of decent hit pool.

The triple LPPC fit isn't bad, but it's not unique. Plenty of other machines can do it and go faster, be better armoured, have better cooling, carry ECM or JJs, etc. 'Five weapon zombie mech' is a unique fit that only the D03 can do.

So do that with it and if you wanna drive a 3x LPPC harasser pull out one of the others:

You can, with a Locust, do 3x LPPC and have a ground speed faster than a D03's MASC top speed.
An Urbie has ECM, way more armour, and JJs.
A Vulcan's a bigger target, but it's faster, better armoured, can fit JJs, and it has the tonnage to fit additional cooling.
A Raven can have the same ground speed as a D03's MASC top speed and it can carry more cooling, more armour, and ECM & stealth armour.

I figure you gotta evaluate chassis and fit in terms of marginal advantage: "What can this machine do that nothing else can, or at least, what can it do better than anything else can?". And so for those reasons I'd not use LPPCs on it.

Edited by foamyesque, 31 December 2023 - 08:43 PM.

[Mark Yore]

__PLASMA__, on 31 December 2023 - 05:54 PM, said:

1Lppc 1Snub(or 2snubs) std engine and no armor arms and torso aka "the burning stick" xD very nice mech i like it

The 20% range quirks for small lasers are a good reason to go for those and then slip in the biggest single laser that will fit. I use 4 small lasers and a LXPL to get some longer range damage in and then move closer on the damaged mechs.

[Meep Meep]

foamyesque, on 31 December 2023 - 07:05 PM, said:

140ish with MASC and full speed tweak *is* slow for MASC and full speed tweak. I've got medium mechs that can outpace that. And you won't always be MASC-on, either, at which point you're doing 120ish in a machine that can carry a flat maximum of 46 hitpoints on a ST. That's less than some 'mechs have on their heads. All it takes is one guy catching you unawares and off it goes.

My current experience in playing with and against 'em is that they're relatively easy targets and an XL engine makes 'em easy to pop, but a zombie fit means you more or less have to go legs (or CT)... except the mounts are decent for ridge-peeking which makes nailing the legs a bit trickier, and the CT is the only thing on the 'mech with any kind of decent hit pool.

The triple LPPC fit isn't bad, but it's not unique. Plenty of other machines can do it and go faster, be better armoured, have better cooling, carry ECM or JJs, etc. 'Five weapon zombie mech' is a unique fit that only the D03 can do.

So do that with it and if you wanna drive a 3x LPPC harasser pull out one of the others:

You can, with a Locust, do 3x LPPC and have a ground speed faster than a D03's MASC top speed.
An Urbie has ECM, way more armour, and JJs.
A Vulcan's a bigger target, but it's faster, better armoured, can fit JJs, and it has the tonnage to fit additional cooling.
A Raven can have the same ground speed as a D03's MASC top speed and it can carry more cooling, more armour, and ECM & stealth armour.

I figure you gotta evaluate chassis and fit in terms of marginal advantage: "What can this machine do that nothing else can, or at least, what can it do better than anything else can?". And so for those reasons I'd not use LPPCs on it.

If thats your standard then the christmas commando is sub optimal with any fit. There are plenty of mechs that do the small/medium laser mix waaaaay better. Even though its probably the best overall commando its still just a crappy commando.