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[Hagen Zwosta]

It is so bad that I will not be able to complete the free mech event. Because I wont be able to get 5 wins.
Normally I am done after 2-3 days even if stuff like a cockpit kill is required.

It is so bad that I refuse to play when my first game is a loss. So the last 2 weeks I played 1 game each day for 12 days. And on 2 days I played 2 games. Because I actually won one.

Or is there a **** list you can be put on?

[ScrapIron Prime]

So just play a few more games. You need match score anyway, and most players’ W/L ratio hovers around 1, with 9-11 games giving 5 wins.

[Hagen Zwosta]

ScrapIron Prime, on 13 April 2024 - 06:57 AM, said:

So just play a few more games. You need match score anyway, and most players’ W/L ratio hovers around 1, with 9-11 games giving 5 wins.

My W/L ratio is 0.36 this season. With an average match score of 263. I think your answer does not answer my question. It is even hard to get some match score as my team crumbles super fast almost every game.
Yes it is not many games but last season ended like this too, that is why I refuse to play with this broken MM.

Edited by Hagen Zwosta, 13 April 2024 - 08:10 AM.

[Gasboy]

Hagen Zwosta, on 13 April 2024 - 04:58 AM, said:

It is so bad that I will not be able to complete the free mech event. Because I wont be able to get 5 wins.
Normally I am done after 2-3 days even if stuff like a cockpit kill is required.

It is so bad that I refuse to play when my first game is a loss. So the last 2 weeks I played 1 game each day for 12 days. And on 2 days I played 2 games. Because I actually won one.

Or is there a **** list you can be put on?

Just keep playing. The wins will come. Games tend to have streaks, where you win some in a row, and then lose some in a row.

[GARION26]

The one constant in your games is you. If your WL over a sizable samples of games it’s you. Because even if the matchmaker was terrible and produced imbalanced teams it would be 50/50 odds you would be on the advantaged teams. Not 0.36 odds

[Hagen Zwosta]

Exactly. That is why I always had a ratio of a bit more than 1.

I haven't changed. So what has?

[Gasboy]

Hagen Zwosta, on 13 April 2024 - 12:33 PM, said:

I haven't changed. So what has?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest kindly that you're not the only player in a match, there are 23 other people.

[crazytimes]

Blaming a magical matchmaker conspiracy is a really solid plan for self improvement.

[Hagen Zwosta]

Got it. My actions make my team lose all the time.
So I simply go afk and it will improve my win rate.
Should be way higher than 0.36 when perma afk.
Thanks for the heads up.

[martian]

Hagen Zwosta, on 14 April 2024 - 02:47 AM, said:

Got it. My actions make my team lose all the time.
So I simply go afk and it will improve my win rate.
Should be way higher than 0.36 when perma afk.
Thanks for the heads up.

The most important thing is your willingness to learn. After each game ask yourself a question: What could have I done differently? Why have I died? Why other players of my team ended the game with higher Match Score than I had?

[Bud Crue]

Honestly, if you just play a bit more than once or twice a day, the odds are that you are going to get a win here and there even if it's because others end up carrying you.

[Hagen Zwosta]

martian, on 14 April 2024 - 02:58 AM, said:

The most important thing is your willingness to learn. After each game ask yourself a question: What could have I done differently? Why have I died? Why other players of my team ended the game with higher Match Score than I had?

They did not end the game with higher matchscore than I had. For the most part. I rarely go down in skillpoints. Even on losses.
I know all that and I do it.
The question was merely if something broke the matchmaker or if there is a shitlist like in other games. Maybe I insulted someone.
Because it is only like this in the last weeks.

Edited by Hagen Zwosta, 14 April 2024 - 03:40 AM.

[martian]

Hagen Zwosta, on 14 April 2024 - 03:40 AM, said:

They did not end the game with higher matchscore than I had. For the most part. I rarely go down in skillpoints. Even on losses.
I know all that and I do it.
The question was merely if something broke the matchmaker or if there is a shitlist like in other games. Maybe I insulted someone.
Because it is only like this in the last weeks.

As far as I know, the matchmaker has not been changed substantially since 2020.

[Djinnhammer]

GARION26, on 13 April 2024 - 09:11 AM, said:

The one constant in your games is you. If your WL over a sizable samples of games it’s you. Because even if the matchmaker was terrible and produced imbalanced teams it would be 50/50 odds you would be on the advantaged teams. Not 0.36 odds

There can be outliers though.
My ex employer ( a call centre) said that over and over. My calls were so bad, managers used to literally hide from me when i came asking for help. It was a common joke in the office I got the real hum dingers of calls. When I finally got my manager to actually look back at my calls and do a proper review...I got the worst set of calls in the centre for nearly a FULL YEAR.
When I went off line working difficult and aged cases/complaints same again, the mangers couldn't believe the level of complexity and general fubar of the cases I got compared to most of the other workers. They even joked someone had put me on a s**t list*

"The only constant is you" whilst true, does not always tell the full and accurate story.People like to throw it at people almost in an effort to shut them up and insinuate it's all their fault-that is not always the case. There ARE the rare outliers.

[Hagen Zwosta]

To the guy above me : Or you really cared for the customers and tried to find out how you can actually help them instead of just trying to get rid of them.

Edited by Hagen Zwosta, 14 April 2024 - 05:39 AM.

[martian]

Hagen Zwosta, on 14 April 2024 - 04:37 AM, said:

Or you really cared for the customers and tried to find out how you can actually help them instead of just trying to get rid of them.

Well, and what exactly would you like PGI to do?

[Hagen Zwosta]

martian, on 14 April 2024 - 05:09 AM, said:

Well, and what exactly would you like PGI to do?

? context my dude. It was an answer to the guy above me.

But I see how I should have quoted
If there is a shitlist they could save everyones time and just send an email: you are not wanted in the game, so one can simply leave.

It has normalised today somehow after that long time. Either only a very long very bad streak or there is a shitlist I was on.

Edited by Hagen Zwosta, 14 April 2024 - 05:41 AM.

[martian]

Hagen Zwosta, on 14 April 2024 - 05:39 AM, said:

? context my dude. It was an answer to the guy above me.

But I see how I should have quoted
If there is a shitlist they could save everyones time and just send an email: you are not wanted in the game, so one can simply leave.

It has normalised today somehow after that long time. Either only a very long very bad streak or there is a shitlist I was on.

As far as I know, there is no such list in MWO.

[Moadebe]

GARION26, on 13 April 2024 - 09:11 AM, said:

The one constant in your games is you. If your WL over a sizable samples of games it’s you. Because even if the matchmaker was terrible and produced imbalanced teams it would be 50/50 odds you would be on the advantaged teams. Not 0.36 odds

Worst take I have seen in awhile. Especially when its a 12v12 per match game. Ive had days where I have won MAYBE a 3-4 matches and lost 20. Then I have had days where that was reversed.

Matchmaker has a LOT to do with that. Yeah you contribute to the match overall, but you are not Rambo and this isn't COD.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Hagen Zwosta, on 13 April 2024 - 07:49 AM, said:

My W/L ratio is 0.36 this season. With an average match score of 263. I think your answer does not answer my question. It is even hard to get some match score as my team crumbles super fast almost every game.
Yes it is not many games but last season ended like this too, that is why I refuse to play with this broken MM.

That is surprising. So I looked up your stats on Jarl's and you're consistently 1.0 plus or minus a bit. This season shouldn't be markedly different, since the player base and the matchmaker aren't really acting any different than the past few months. I'll check again next month and see if the number did indeed drop like you're saying, as that kind of difference is way outside a standard deviation, statistically speaking.