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King Crab Argent - Quad Is Ac20 Finally Possible?

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#1 rox5tar

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Posted 21 July 2024 - 12:14 PM

To my knowledge, the only mech able to wield 4 AC20s was the Stone Rhino. However, this combination used clan AC20s, meaning it wasn't pinpoint but rather fired in a burst salvo. No other IS mech has been able to wield 4 AC20s (might be wrong, please correct me if I am), either due to hardpoint restrictions, tonnage restrictions or was not able to fit it on the arms due to a lower arm actuator.

The Argent does not have lower arm actuators, and would theoretically be able to fit the 4 AC20s on it. Is this correct? Are we going to be able to finally be able to have the quad AC20 build on the IS side, for 80 pinpoint damage? Not saying this is going to be gamebreaking, quad AC20s still will generate ghost heat and probably will not be feasible. Still though, quad AC20s and either a light engine or STD with ECM will probably end up being a super fun build.

Thoughts?

#2 Curccu

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Posted 21 July 2024 - 12:23 PM

Yes you can build it BUT after attaching those 4xAC20 and full armor you got less than 15 tons to play with, that is less than LFE 250 weights, so it's gonna be slow AND low ammo.
Plus alpha strike will shut you down.

#3 rox5tar

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Posted 21 July 2024 - 12:42 PM

View PostCurccu, on 21 July 2024 - 12:23 PM, said:

Yes you can build it BUT after attaching those 4xAC20 and full armor you got less than 15 tons to play with, that is less than LFE 250 weights, so it's gonna be slow AND low ammo.
Plus alpha strike will shut you down.


Wouldn't be surprised if this mech gets a Ballistic HSL quirk, most likely gonna be one to match with the majority of other King Crabs. Even so, firing in a 2x2 pattern pinpoint is still pretty scary to think about. Not game breaking scary, but still scary.

Besides, would 4 AC20s actually shut it down? Especially if the HSL was increased by 1, it'd get toasty but I doubt it'd shut the mech down (but then again I have zero clue so feel free to correct me).

Edited by rox5tar, 21 July 2024 - 12:42 PM.


#4 KursedVixen

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Posted 21 July 2024 - 02:16 PM

There is no way they'd give that thing a ballstic HSL...

#5 epikt

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Posted 21 July 2024 - 02:53 PM

Protip: on MechDB you can theoricraft unreleased chassis. Here's your 4 AC20 King Crab. As you can see, it's slow as F and most likely has low armor or ammo.

That being said, like you wrote, you won't be able to fire them all at the same time (quirks are knows, the only HSL+1 on the mech is for UAC10s)

#6 LordNothing

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Posted 21 July 2024 - 04:13 PM

nice slayer reference.

#7 SolCrusher

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Posted 21 July 2024 - 07:37 PM

This FNR can do it.

https://mwo.nav-alph...0c65eb_FNR-JLGD

#8 w0qj

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Posted 23 July 2024 - 10:19 AM

So what are the quirks for King Crab Argent, the Legendary Mech?

Very excited ;)

#9 Battlemaster56

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Posted 23 July 2024 - 10:55 AM

View Postw0qj, on 23 July 2024 - 10:19 AM, said:

So what are the quirks for King Crab Argent, the Legendary Mech?

Very excited Posted Image


+1 UAC10 hsl quirk.

#10 epikt

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Posted 23 July 2024 - 12:11 PM

View Postw0qj, on 23 July 2024 - 10:19 AM, said:

So what are the quirks for King Crab Argent, the Legendary Mech?

Quirks have been public for days....

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UAC jam chance -15%
UAC10 HSL+1
heat -10%
armor quiks

Edited by epikt, 23 July 2024 - 12:11 PM.


#11 rox5tar

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Posted 23 July 2024 - 12:37 PM

View PostSolCrusher, on 21 July 2024 - 07:37 PM, said:



Oh interesting. Still though, I guess Argent is the first IS Quad AC20 with ECM? Posted Image

#12 Hanks 427

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Posted 25 July 2024 - 10:36 PM

View Postrox5tar, on 23 July 2024 - 12:37 PM, said:

Oh interesting. Still though, I guess Argent is the first IS Quad AC20 with ECM? Posted Image


Except, you can't equip ecm if you put an ac-20 in the torso and LFE engine.

Edited by Hanks 427, 25 July 2024 - 10:38 PM.


#13 Dogstar

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Posted 01 August 2024 - 07:01 AM

Triple AC20 + ECM is nothing to sneer at





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