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#1 Bigbacon

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 08:21 AM

when does this 8v8 garbage end or is it forever 8v8??

Game absolutely blows 8v8......

#2 LordNothing

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 08:51 AM

runs till patch on tuesday.

#3 Mad Porthos

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 09:44 AM

So it's NOT a permanent thing being tested via QP que to see if it improves matchmaker wait times and match quality? Must have been the usual rumor mill/gripe I heard then. Back to 12 v 12 will be interesting. 8v8 has changed the mechs I'm seeing in match apparently too - completely not representative sample I know, but it seems alot more big mechs across the board in 8v8, less of the light lances or even light standouts. Several assault mech only games lately.

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 09:56 AM

i think this is the second time they did 8v8 in qp. the first time was a test, this time its to promote comp.

i dont exactly hate 8v8 either like a lot of the other forumites. wait times seem shorter, and i feel like i have more influence on the match outcome (win or lose).

#5 Meep Meep

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 01:44 PM

8 vs 8 gets much faster queue times and the game quality generally improves. Except for the four man drops which wasn't supposed to happen. But get a full lobby of solo droppers and its quite fun. The first day was a bit chaotic due to players still wandering off like they normally do but by now most drops the teams stay tight and as coordinated as random pugs can be. Next time they do this groups have to be limited to two mans and no more than two groups per team.

#6 VeeOt Dragon

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 03:16 PM

yeah it was ****. PGI keeps thinking that MWO will be some giant E-Sports thing. its never going to happen they need to stop pushing comp centered stuff on everyone.

i played 2 matches and that was all i could stand of it. the whole 8v8 eliminates half the mechs and o half of the play styles from the game.

as for wait times there was no difference on my end or for performance (i play on max settings since i now have a really good PC but even when i had my old potato i could play on low to mid settings with no trouble at all)

#7 Novakaine

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 05:22 PM

I like it.

#8 Mr Gash

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 07:01 PM

8 v 8 sux

#9 DarkBazerker

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 07:07 PM

Can we keep it?

#10 simon1812

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Posted 18 August 2024 - 09:34 PM

been playing a lot lately and love the 8vs8 , really wish it stay this way or have at least the option for it.

I do feel match start faster
I do feel it is easier to play as a team
some pp will still suck (why would that change?) but I do feel team mates are a bit more responsive when asking for support? like it is easier to keep an eye on team mates when we are only 8 instead of 12.

#11 RockmachinE

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Posted 19 August 2024 - 07:29 AM

8v8 = less action, mistakes are punished harder, bad/good players shift the balance more, 1 death snowballs and skews the game harder, empty maps, solos get screwed premades rewarded.

Fun for organized, doesnt work for QP.

Edited by RockmachinE, 19 August 2024 - 07:31 AM.


#12 Evan OMellin

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Posted 19 August 2024 - 12:28 PM

Matchmaker had a good chance to put skilled pilots (approximately 3-4 good pilot that know what to do and how to shoot) in 12v12 game. Now this chance decreased to 0-1 pilot, I hate this mod.

Edited by Evan OMellin, 19 August 2024 - 12:28 PM.


#13 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 19 August 2024 - 12:36 PM

Terrible event. 8vs8 feels like work boots on a day off.

Edited by A banana in the tailpipe, 19 August 2024 - 01:09 PM.


#14 Rabid Imp

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Posted 19 August 2024 - 03:11 PM

Ya not much fun on Stomp after Stomp, most games I have seen are 8-1/8-0 because mistakes are punished so hard on the team that loses someone first. Only seeing meta builds and mostly assaults/heavies. Having a light on your team is usually a detriment most of the time, as is most mediums.

Less mech variety
Less build variety
Defiantly more complete stomps than good or close games by far.

Overall less fun in QP. If they do it again think I'll skip it.

Edited by Rabid Imp, 19 August 2024 - 06:23 PM.


#15 Djinnhammer

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Posted 19 August 2024 - 05:29 PM

Very, VERY unhappy about being FORCED to experience it.
Played 5 lost 5, averaging around a third of my normal damage.
Can't flank and engage as every team has continued peek/poke trading. Opponents have pushed hard as a an eight and overran every time.
Each person mech and loadout matters more.
1-2 bad players on your team REALLY hurts.

Edited by Djinnhammer, 19 August 2024 - 05:46 PM.


#16 bananaman322

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Posted 19 August 2024 - 10:35 PM

This is the very reason why I would quit MWO wheres the diversity? 3 lances is legit af and way more fun

#17 OsceeHawk

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Posted 20 August 2024 - 03:53 AM

I like 8v8....but not at first.
Pros- promotes unit cohesion
faster matches
much quicker play
Cons- promotes assaults/heavies it seems

I can see 8v8 randomized with 12v12 or even throw in 3v3 every now and then.
Why not? Each mode is different and promotes pilot skill.

#18 1453 R

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Posted 20 August 2024 - 10:22 AM

View PostOsceeHawk, on 20 August 2024 - 03:53 AM, said:

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Cons- promotes assaults/heavies it seems
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This one isn't an 8v8 issue, it's a "MWO" issue. The game has been increasingly top-heavy for many years now. Larger 'Mechs sell better so Piranha makes what sells, and the average Puglandian feels safer, stronger, and More Better Skilled* in a giant tub of guns and armor. The current total lack of any sort of combat objectives in the game devalues mobility, and an assault 'Mech's typical weaknesses - vulnerability to being outflanked and difficulty in maneuvering and repositioning - are mitigated by the fact that nobody else in Puglandia knows how to do those things either and has a hard time punishing bad assault play.

If the game was more mobility-centric this wouldn't be an issue, but the general playerbase's ultrasuperhyperfixation on Big Braindead Dethmatch (i.e. Skirmish and Domination) won't allow Piranha to make the obvious fix. That being "turn off all game modes not named Conquest." Until that fix happens, the game will continue to be grotesquely top-heavy.

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Posted 20 August 2024 - 11:00 AM

once I got back into the old 8v8 groove I had a lot of fun and some gg's

#20 DarkBazerker

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Posted 20 August 2024 - 11:03 AM

The Game is worst now, pls bring back 8v8.





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