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[Jon Gotham]

I was in a match just now with a player I know, and noticed he had guillotine title. He is a known red line camper...but he isn't that good. He is 36% on jarls.
Surely, to get 1000 headshot kills you'd have to be amazingly good at the game?
I've never seen anyone with that title on display to today...
Is there any way it could have been achieved other than careful, precise headshots at a consistency that is scary?

[Ken Harkin]

I have to say I have never seen anyone with that title.

[LordNothing]

it is said that the way to get head shots is to go for them exclusively. this will make your tier drop like a stone. eventually you will be in t4 or t5 and there will be so many stare warriors you can get it in a few weeks. head shots really dont pay out that well, given the emphasis on damage and so even if you manage to headshot every memeber of the enemy team you will probibly get the down arrow.

[Rabid Imp]

LordNothing, on 18 October 2024 - 07:57 AM, said:

it is said that the way to get head shots is to go for them exclusively. this will make your tier drop like a stone. eventually you will be in t4 or t5 and there will be so many stare warriors you can get it in a few weeks. head shots really dont pay out that well, given the emphasis on damage and so even if you manage to headshot every memeber of the enemy team you will probibly get the down arrow.

Correct. Except for the few weeks part, it takes a few months.

It does take an obscene amount of patience to get, but you do not have to be amazingly good to get it.

Edited by Rabid Imp, 18 October 2024 - 08:59 PM.

[Davegt27]

there is one guy that specializes in head shots

he is on twitch

he said he sacrifices his stats to get head shots

its probably him

[kalashnikity]

Rabid Imp, on 18 October 2024 - 08:35 PM, said:

Correct. Except for the few weeks part, it takes a few months.

It does take an obscene amount of patience to get, but you do not have to be amazingly good to get it.

Pilot handle checks out.

[Void Angel]

Jon Gotham, on 17 October 2024 - 10:12 PM, said:

Is there any way it could have been achieved other than careful, precise headshots at a consistency that is scary?

Persistence, and a willingness to sacrifice your performance and hamstring your team to get the hits. Someone just recently posted a short clip in another thread, where a headshot hunter was putting gameplay up on Youtube... Dude got one guy who was peeking over a ridge, then refused to shoot at a Crusader over the course of about six seconds - purely because the crusader didn't stand still long enough for him to get that perfect shot. So if you're just doing headshots, you can do it, and your in-match performance and Jarl's will suffer for it appropriately.

Expect such players to occasionally take other players out with very little damage done - and to be a boat anchor for the team at all other times. Also expect never to see them again once you Tier up to ~T1-T2; tanking their Jarl's is a deliberate part of their 1337 $7R473G13 to farm those headshots on players who aren't good enough to hand them their own head on a plate for screwing around.

[LordNothing]

kalashnikity, on 19 October 2024 - 07:46 AM, said:

Pilot handle checks out.

i actually have the 100 hs cheevo, it just doesnt come with any titles. most of that was done in solaris and it really didnt take that long. i really have no interest in getting guillotine though.

Edited by LordNothing, 19 October 2024 - 09:21 AM.

[MayhemMatador]

Jon Gotham, on 17 October 2024 - 10:12 PM, said:

I was in a match just now with a player I know, and noticed he had guillotine title. He is a known red line camper...but he isn't that good. He is 36% on jarls.
Surely, to get 1000 headshot kills you'd have to be amazingly good at the game?
I've never seen anyone with that title on display to today...
Is there any way it could have been achieved other than careful, precise headshots at a consistency that is scary?

Wow, OP is so salty, and a little jealous it sounds.

I think the funny part is how all the responses gently informed him that it's totally possible but in ways that will not ease his saltiness at all.

Edited by MayhemMatador, 19 October 2024 - 01:09 PM.

[Tromoskyon Rex]

So, I got Gullotine in about 2 months. The most headshots I got in one day was 100, my last 100. My UN at the time was Orion_ but I changed it because that is my actual name and it started to weird me out. Being low on Jarls is completely expected and almost needed. I started playing again on and off a few weeks ago on an alt with my wife and got 3 headshots in one game with the trial Thunderbolt with 3 HPPC, my main used a Thanatos and 3 HPPC with stealth armor. Getting headshots in T5 is honestly easy depending on the enemy team, getting headshots in T1 where people don't stand still like goofballs is not. I did get TTB one time in 1v1s but other than that could probably count on both hands how many headshots were above T3.

This is an old video I made with 86/107 mechs being headshot. The 5:00 mark is TTB in an ON1K.
https://www.reddit.c...crapbook_86107/

Edited by Tromoskyon Rex, 20 October 2024 - 07:39 PM.

[LordNothing]

MayhemMatador, on 19 October 2024 - 01:06 PM, said:

Wow, OP is so salty, and a little jealous it sounds.

I think the funny part is how all the responses gently informed him that it's totally possible but in ways that will not ease his saltiness at all.

the fact that he didn't follow up speaks volumes. i think he wanted to complain and run instead of soaking up valuable advice that would help him both get and avoid headshots.

[simon1812]

well...this game have been around for over 10 years....so I wouldn't rule out the possibility.

[1453 R]

Anyone else click on this thread and expect someone asking for the seventy-ton weirdly-shaped Grasshopper rather than a discussion about achievables nobody gets naturally?

...no? Just me?

[MayhemMatador]

1453 R, on 21 October 2024 - 06:47 AM, said:

achievables nobody gets naturally?

...no? Just me?

Yeah just you and some other salty types, and before you start banging on here is a vid that just dropped, the guy is a long time player and all of his headshots were in Tier I:

[1453 R]

Lawl. Not salty by any means. Mostly just commenting on the fact that for a while back in the day, people were really jonesing for the ol' Guillotine. I remember a goodly few threads asking "GUILLOTINE WHEN". Think the problem was a lack of timeline-canonical variants, back when MWO cared about that stuff. Ah well. The Guillotine's time is guillogone. Poor sad jumpy laser boi.

[MayhemMatador]

1453 R, on 21 October 2024 - 02:58 PM, said:

Lawl. Not salty by any means. Mostly just commenting on the fact that for a while back in the day, people were really jonesing for the ol' Guillotine. I remember a goodly few threads asking "GUILLOTINE WHEN". Think the problem was a lack of timeline-canonical variants, back when MWO cared about that stuff. Ah well. The Guillotine's time is guillogone. Poor sad jumpy laser boi.

Huh? but didn't you say :

1453 R, on 21 October 2024 - 06:47 AM, said:

achievables nobody gets naturally?

...no? Just me?

See right there you are suggesting getting the Guillotine wasn't achieved naturally, but then your later post seems like you trying to downplay your own clear implication while not walking it back.

What's the score man? which post is what you meant? that Guillotines can't be acheived naturally or that you were just funning around?

[LordNothing]

i never really liked cheevo systems in games. its a trendy feature which consumes devtime and really doesnt serve any purpose other than to drive people with ocd mad. thats before you account for cheevos which are unobtainium, either because they require a bunch of improbable things to line up perfectly (liquid metal) or because the skill floor is so high (death star). guillotine is the third annoying type, where it requires you gimp your stats, piss off other players, and grind relentlessly to get it.

[MayhemMatador]

LordNothing, on 21 October 2024 - 03:39 PM, said:

guillotine is the third annoying type, where it requires you gimp your stats, piss off other players, and grind relentlessly to get it.

Sometimes I foolisly forget the predominant age and demo of the mwo boards poster-base, but a few days always reminds me.

As an aspiring guillotine allow me to point out to you what was shown in Herod's helpful video,
1- it doesn't have to gimp your stats; he stayed in tier 1 for the 30 days and his Jarls is remains magnificent.
2- only players it pisses off is the ones getting headshotted, its the fastest way to destroy an assault (oh and it pisses off people who can't do and have to throw shade by reflex).
3- 65 in 30 days, that guy Orion nailed 100 in his last day, lots of people get it sorted and you know what? whenever I watch their videos or the headshot videos of others? or the streamer videos when they just happen to get a headshot, or get headshotted? guess what they sound like they are having a blast, you can hear them, you can hear their teammates cheering, laughing, comiserating, none of that sounds like a 'relentless grind'.

What is the deal with you guys over here on MWO? why do you have to shade everything that isn't what you like or can do? and why for the love of god when you get fact checked with video proof do you all seem incapable of just taking a step back and saying something like "hey cool, I may have been wrong on this".

[LordNothing]

MayhemMatador, on 21 October 2024 - 06:42 PM, said:

Sometimes I foolisly forget the predominant age and demo of the mwo boards poster-base, but a few days always reminds me.

As an aspiring guillotine allow me to point out to you what was shown in Herod's helpful video,
1- it doesn't have to gimp your stats; he stayed in tier 1 for the 30 days and his Jarls is remains magnificent.
2- only players it pisses off is the ones getting headshotted, its the fastest way to destroy an assault (oh and it pisses off people who can't do and have to throw shade by reflex).
3- 65 in 30 days, that guy Orion nailed 100 in his last day, lots of people get it sorted and you know what? whenever I watch their videos or the headshot videos of others? or the streamer videos when they just happen to get a headshot, or get headshotted? guess what they sound like they are having a blast, you can hear them, you can hear their teammates cheering, laughing, comiserating, none of that sounds like a 'relentless grind'.

What is the deal with you guys over here on MWO? why do you have to shade everything that isn't what you like or can do? and why for the love of god when you get fact checked with video proof do you all seem incapable of just taking a step back and saying something like "hey cool, I may have been wrong on this".

we didnt need these systems in the quake-doom-descent era. thing is people are still playing quake, doom and descent, they still have modding scenes, and the code is available so they are effectively immortal games. nothing made in the last 10 years will endure beyond its service life. none of them needed cheevos to do it either. before you assume what game era people are from, i owned every voodoo card. that said:

1 it doesnt have to gimp your stats, if you are herod. are you herod? im not. in fact most players are not that good. one good example is not representative of the community at large. so if you want it, its going to cost you. its not like its an impossible cheevo either. its just not something im going to go after. if its something you want, then go for it. actually id rather spend a month in std engine mechs and try to get liquid metal, at least thats a cool title and doesnt send a message to your team that you are willing to throw them under the bus for a cheevo.

2 if you are throwing the match to get headshots, especially if you die failing to do so, you are going to be pissing off your team even more. when i get headshotted i usually congratulate the guy for his skills, and i see the same when i get one. id rather focus on winning the match with much more effective strategies. now if i have an opportunity to grab a headshot, im going to take it. the method i used in solaris was to suck up damage while i take good aim for my first and last shot. failing this usually results in my death. keep in mind it was usually annihilator to annihilator, and im packing 4 ac10s for maximum ppfld. the enemy is packing usually more for lethality. i can die or suffer crippling damage in the time it takes those to cycle once. but in solaris thats the end of the match and nobody is angry. the other guy wins, and my strategy was ineffective, and i knew that going in. but when there are 11 other people counting on me, i usually go with winning strategies.

3 i think i would have gotten there if i didnt grow bored with solaris after the first couple of seasons. after 100 i know i can do it if i really want to. but to what end, im here to break mechs, not splatter head contents. you assume im throwing shade but im not. im just saying what it will take for the typical player. if you can get it without dropping to t5, that is a serious show of skill and is respectable. even if you drop down to t5 to get it, at least it shows dedication to a goal and that is respectable. im not telling you how to play the game. if thats still not good enough, prove me wrong.

[Djinnhammer]

LordNothing, on 20 October 2024 - 07:35 PM, said:

the fact that he didn't follow up speaks volumes. i think he wanted to complain and run instead of soaking up valuable advice that would help him both get and avoid headshots.

Actually....I've been at work and had fairly nasty pc issues......
I love how nasty people get so easily.
As for salty? Yeah i am a bit as this person in particular has a very un team-friendly playstyle and has been called out on it on numerous occasions. His normal playstyle hurts teams-I've spectated him deliberately not shooting enemies before and watching a team mate die to those same enemies, just so he can get a backshot....

Jealous? Not in the least.
The reason i made this thread is I assumed it'd take huge skill to achieve, the replies have informed me actually otherwise. It's not something I think I'd be able to do, due to shaky hands due to some spinal damage. But I was curious.
And, mr Mayhem....why so nasty and accusatory? You don't know me at all and have no idea what's in my mind when i put finger to key...do you?
"the fact that he didn't follow up speaks volumes. i think he wanted to complain and run instead of soaking up valuable advice that would help him both get and avoid headshots."
Not very impressed with that mate and was completely uncalled for. again, you don't know me at all and just assumed very snarkily I may add-my motives.
I've been headshot TWICE since I started playing. 8k games:)