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[k0vec]

CSJ Edward, on 11 November 2024 - 08:31 PM, said:

They have quirks that make them stronger than they should be. Go on the test maps, the stock lights standing still take more shots to kill than the other mechs due to overlapping hitboxes, over-generous quirks and hit registration issues. Combine that with machine guns that can strip 90 points of armor off in seconds.

Lol

[Hawk819]

Any chance of seeing screen shots of the new map?

[Voice of Kerensky]

Who else is having trouble entering a match?
I know for sure that I'm not alone. Playing on Saturday I saw a lot of disconnects that didn't return to the match.
I vote for a map, the voting screen goes dark, but the preview of the winning map and game mode does not appear. I get kicked out to the mechbay. Multiple attempts to rejoined the match do not lead to anything. A short screensaver of the winning map and game mode, and then a kickout to the mechbay with the message "Disconnected from game server".
So I've already missed three matches and earned a five-minute ban and wasted an hour of my time. And of course, I've ruined the gaming experience for people in three matches.
I hope PGI is aware of this problem.

[Max J Wolf]

Max J Wolf, on 08 November 2024 - 10:21 AM, said:

Yeah, not in the arms, but 4 in the RT...so yeah 10 LBX2s is a GO lol!))

Still, the Hit Boxes on those side torsos will be Ridiculous!((

Here You Go!))

1(S)

Edited by Max J Wolf, 12 November 2024 - 10:04 AM.

[Max J Wolf]

Seraphic Law, on 08 November 2024 - 06:57 AM, said:

It's unable to load-out with 10 LBX2s so not interested.

1(S)

[Ttly]

"So we made it a massive glass cannon."
Yea, with a 19t worth of armor (though with the armor value closer to the likes of 90-95t mechs with armor quirks) which while points-wise is less than 100t's armor, isn't really that significantly less to the point that their time-to-be-killed is much higher, not to mention its ability to just shoot back with 25-30DPS in form of monotype weapon boating by the way, which is significantly easier to use than mixed weapons loadouts (which So8 Dire Wolves and Annihilators usually run), also more than even the likes of Aksum and mixed pod DWFs which only gets to like 25, and unlike 3RAC5 King Crabs actually has the range and hardpoint placement for it.
Oh by the way, C-ERLL's 1.35s laser burn duration (before skills and quirks) does like 8.14 DPS so that 30DPS 10C-UAC2 can actually outstare 2C-ERLL staredowns.
Oh right, it also comes with an ECM variant (can also run UAC boating loadout) and the ballistic HSL+1 variant for your HAG80+C-ERLL needs, bye MAD2C-D HAG60+2C-ERLL snipers, say hello to the Bane with HAG80+4C-ERLLs even.

You can run this on the Bane-6 (can also run 10C-UAC2 if you drop the C-ERLLs) or Bane-7 (no ECM but B.HSL+1 so you can shoot the C-ERLLs more).

Spoiler

Go ahead and drop 2C-ERLLs to C-ERMLs or nothing and drop the endo so you can fit more C-DHS by the way.
Only the Gausszilla really compare but it has no ECM or B.HSL+1 I guess.

Granted it does seem to have a very WIDE hitbox and it is engine capped to 300, but at the sniping distance you can expect the Bane to be played at? These aren't that significant of a downside, just look at your typical ECM MADIIC-D or ECM Dire Wolf snipers (or the rare 6ERLL Stalker) in your matches and see how being a big chungus sniper is so much of a non-downside. Especially for a snipemaxxing build like this.

Anyway it's shaping up to just be another typical (if even more power-creeping than the Aksum was) p2w sniper assault, that unlike the Bullshark, would have people actually running good loadouts with, because people were too squeamish for IS XL on assaults apparently.

Edited by Ttly, 12 November 2024 - 06:42 PM.

[Wraith 1]

I've done Direwolf builds that stripped a huge amount of armor to fit 7~8 C-AC5s, and that's been one of my best performing builds in quickplay. Taking advantage of lapses in situational awareness is really easy when you have that much firepower, and you don't need to survive very long to do 1k+ damage. Bane is going to have even more firepower, way better mount points, and probably smaller CT. It'll absolutely be playable in QP, and I'm expecting the Bane-1 and the ECM variants to be borderline broken.

Bane-3 might need some other quirk, since spamming five duodecillion C-LRMs isn't unique or interesting despite the HSL quirk, and it's way worse than the MAD-4HP if you try doing SRMs. A big SRM-specific cooldown quirk could be interesting, making the 4HP tankier and more precise, with the Bane-3 having huge sandblasting DPS.

Also, wasn't the cauldron limited on how many HAG rounds they were allowed to have when designing the weapon due to server performance? It'll be interesting to see how it handles 2x SB-HAG-40 Leviathan builds

[Max J Wolf]

Probably won't be much of a Brawler due to Glass Cannon, but there is this lol!

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Edited by Max J Wolf, 12 November 2024 - 03:40 PM.

[Krucilatoz]

I always admire any mech with such monstrous firepower.
But the lack in armor bring both good news and bad news for me.

The good news my casual mech with TB40 - TB50 build will have new favourite target. Along with decent teammates / targeting, the Bane will go down quickly.
The bad news if I brought Bane then I will have the similar fate lol

Note I don't mention ATM since they need to pop-up to have decent spread and aim. And when atm-boat pop-up, the Bane will unleash its firepower into the atm-boat. Its not a worthy trade.

[Ttly]

Krucilatoz, on 12 November 2024 - 09:54 PM, said:

I always admire any mech with such monstrous firepower.
But the lack in armor bring both good news and bad news for me.

The good news my casual mech with TB40 - TB50 build will have new favourite target. Along with decent teammates / targeting, the Bane will go down quickly.
The bad news if I brought Bane then I will have the similar fate lol

Note I don't mention ATM since they need to pop-up to have decent spread and aim. And when atm-boat pop-up, the Bane will unleash its firepower into the atm-boat. Its not a worthy trade.

ECM variant, get outsniped by 10 C-UAC2/HAG80 which actually outranges TBs to boot.
Or get NARCbot friend who likes to just sit in the corner chair after doing their stuff, and watch other people launch fireworks (that just ends up hitting cover).

Edited by Ttly, 12 November 2024 - 10:54 PM.

[BlueDevilspawn]

Max J Wolf, on 12 November 2024 - 08:47 AM, said:

Here You Go!))

1(S)

You can also run 14 PAC2s. https://mwo.nav-alph...6b29a77b_CUSTOM

Ultimately, this mech is built around dealing damage. Those who proudly proclaim "well I tanked xyz damage" should probably learn to shoot.

Edited by BlueDevilspawn, 13 November 2024 - 09:32 AM.

[Gezkill]

Matt Newman, on 08 November 2024 - 01:30 PM, said:

Its also worth noting that any buffs would be out sooner than a month since the Dec patch comes out on the 10th

The thing has a hitbox of a whale and you thought "Yeah less armor is good."

Sadly if I knew about it I wouldn't have pre-ordered the mech. This is like being in a King Crab but worse. One good alpha and your gone.

[Ttly]

Gezkill, on 13 November 2024 - 11:50 PM, said:

The thing has a hitbox of a whale and you thought "Yeah less armor is good." Sadly if I knew about it I wouldn't have pre-ordered the mech. This is like being in a King Crab but worse. One good alpha and your gone.

A Dire Wolf also can't hit you 4*10 times in 1 second for 80 damage with projectiles at 800m range (that has almost gauss velocity by the way) like this thing's 10C-UAC2 builds can (also with ECM on some variants), and unlike HAG80 builds, they can do it again within another second again and again.

If you're not buying it because "it's a terrible direction for the game with how it is a currently real cash only min-maxed sniper vehicle that can outsnipe the snipiest of snipes snipes in snipe-land and make other people in the game suffer" that's one thing.
But not buying it because "oh it's sooo big and sooo weak noooo it suuuucks aaaarghhh" is another.

Edited by Ttly, 14 November 2024 - 03:38 AM.

[Max J Wolf]

Ttly, on 14 November 2024 - 03:32 AM, said:

A Dire Wolf also can't hit you 4*10 times in 1 second for 80 damage with projectiles at 800m range (that has almost gauss velocity by the way) like this thing's 10C-UAC2 builds can (also with ECM on some variants), and unlike HAG80 builds, they can do it again within another second again and again.

If you're not buying it because "it's a terrible direction for the game with how it is a currently real cash only min-maxed sniper vehicle that can outsnipe the snipiest of snipes snipes in snipe-land and make other people in the game suffer" that's one thing.
But not buying it because "oh it's sooo big and sooo weak noooo it suuuucks aaaarghhh" is another.

LMAO...Snipiest of snipes snipes in snipeland...make people suffer!!

Since you put it that way.



Done & Done!))

[Gezkill]

Ttly, on 14 November 2024 - 03:32 AM, said:

A Dire Wolf also can't hit you 4*10 times in 1 second for 80 damage with projectiles at 800m range (that has almost gauss velocity by the way) like this thing's 10C-UAC2 builds can (also with ECM on some variants), and unlike HAG80 builds, they can do it again within another second again and again.

If you're not buying it because "it's a terrible direction for the game with how it is a currently real cash only min-maxed sniper vehicle that can outsnipe the snipiest of snipes snipes in snipe-land and make other people in the game suffer" that's one thing.
But not buying it because "oh it's sooo big and sooo weak noooo it suuuucks aaaarghhh" is another.

Direwolf UV can with 8 UACs and still has better armor.

So yeah no hard pass.

Also canonically the Direwolf and the Bane have the same tonnage of armor allocated to the mechs.

Edited by Gezkill, 14 November 2024 - 11:36 AM.

[Ttly]

Gezkill, on 14 November 2024 - 11:35 AM, said:

Direwolf UV can with 8 UACs and still has better armor.

The DWF has 101 max ST armor, the Bane has 94. That's only 6 points difference while its loadout of 10 instead of 8 UACs gives it 30ish DPS instead of 25. Alright, it might have less CT armor then sure, by only 24, about 1/3rd or of an assault's alpha damage generally for that extra DPS which we'll see how much that matters once its actual hitboxes are out.
Oh also its weapon placements are all higher than the DWF's arms.

Just suck it up and say it's generally a bad addition to the game, bad for the balance, bad for people against it (I love being shot at by ECM snipers, don't you?), bad for its team, a 100t assault that can empty its ammo within 2 minute of shooting because it can just empty 2k damage worth of ammo and kills that quickly (around 40 seconds of constant firing assuming 0% jam and not accounting heat to do this by the way), it's only there to farm damage, empty its ammo bins, then just walk to the enemy and let them farm it (without tanking for the team because it's probaby left behind by your average NASCAR-brained team or went to that sniper hill, you know the one) so it can exit the match earlier and pad the user's stats.

Edited by Ttly, 14 November 2024 - 12:57 PM.

[Slab Hatrock]

TELEFORCE, on 08 November 2024 - 06:34 PM, said:

I want it to be a Firemoth soooo bad. Though I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's actually the Hellion

People wanting these new clan lights and I'm just sitting over saying, again, "Please Sirs, could I just have the Conjurer? Specifically the Conjurer 4?" Mediums matter too! lol

[Krucilatoz]

is it just me, or, do the mech pack such Bane not showing on Steam ? Or it will be listed on later date?
I saw Grand Summoner,
but Bullshark, Longbow not listed.

I know we have mwo-store, but I prefer using steam.

[Martaloc]

So i bought the Bane collector pack and regreted it. The mech is too big , seriously wider and taller than a MarauderII or Dire Wolf, with the gigantic size not only has problem with the survivalibity but with weapon convergence too.

So you cant use the glasscannon quirks , which is the so called selling point the Banes because you must show your full mech to shoot or half of youre weaponry hit the landmarks and walls.
They must resize this mech(make them smaller) and give them more armorquirks too, yes both in the same time.

So avoid this mech now because is below average in survivalibity in his current situation.
The Stone Rhinos or even the Kodiaks are much better than the Banes currently.
So dont spend 40 or 70 dollars on Bane packs, massive disappoinment.

Edited by Martaloc, 21 November 2024 - 04:25 AM.

[TERMINATORCONAN]

Are we having Special Bane events like we do for all new mechs released/