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[Blackcanni]

Watching a JayzTwoCents video and would like to share the warning, if you use a Nvidia 4000 or 5000 series card the driver 572.16 can brick your card, do not update to that driver.

Link to the video with topic starting after 9 minutes:


Be safe!

[Meep Meep]

3090ti here and after installing the drivers was getting some odd sync issues with the monitor so rolled back and all is well. Might want to pass on this driver.

[LordNothing]

7900xt. so not my problem.

also beware 12vhpwr cables are melting again. this time its nvidia's fault. so glad i jumped the sinking ship with my last upgrade.

Edited by LordNothing, 13 February 2025 - 12:05 AM.

[Meep Meep]

From what I am seeing so far the 12vhpwr melting are from people trying for monster overclocks again since the 5090 can easily draw 500w+ under gaming loads. Add in an overclock and it can go well over the 600w that connector supplies. Same with the earlier meltdowns was mostly high end overclocking or the very early cables that were inflexible and had a tendency to pull a pin or two loose if you tried to bend them. But yeah its funny to see amd now having solid drivers and hardware and nvidia screwing it up. Same with intel as they are now struggling to make cpu that don't fudge up and amd is hitting it out the park.

[LordNothing]

Meep Meep, on 13 February 2025 - 01:46 AM, said:

From what I am seeing so far the 12vhpwr melting are from people trying for monster overclocks again since the 5090 can easily draw 500w+ under gaming loads. Add in an overclock and it can go well over the 600w that connector supplies. Same with the earlier meltdowns was mostly high end overclocking or the very early cables that were inflexible and had a tendency to pull a pin or two loose if you tried to bend them. But yeah its funny to see amd now having solid drivers and hardware and nvidia screwing it up. Same with intel as they are now struggling to make cpu that don't fudge up and amd is hitting it out the park.

user error and badly seated cables was an issue on the 40xx series, but this is something much worse.

im not sure where "amd has bad drivers" comes from, works in every game ive had, and to be fair i never really had any problems with nvidia's either (at least on windows). of course this is the first amd gpu ive had since 2002 or so (they were still ati back then, and that was a laptop gpu). the linux drivers also kind of flip flop, amd has been known for really good linux drivers, and figuring i was not planning on upgrading to windows 11, and the power cables of course, were all part of me switching sides. nvidia's linux drivers were iffy and highly dependent on what gen gpu you were using. supposedly they have newer ones that are a lot better, but not on my 2070 super though.

Edited by LordNothing, 13 February 2025 - 10:20 AM.

[Meep Meep]

AMD used to be the absolute worst on driver stability. It would take two more driver releases to deal with the issues of the previous releases and it was so bad you had users making custom drivers all the time. Back when I had a x1950 xt I never used the stock drivers and always used the retuned drivers.

As to the dodgy power connectors there are plenty of aftermarket 12vhpwr which solve all the flexibility and pin issues with much sturdier construction and higher gauge wires and pins. Won't matter I'll either be waiting for the 60xx line or see what amd has to offer in a couple more years since the 3090ti is still far far more gpu than I need.

[LordNothing]

Meep Meep, on 13 February 2025 - 05:11 PM, said:

AMD used to be the absolute worst on driver stability. It would take two more driver releases to deal with the issues of the previous releases and it was so bad you had users making custom drivers all the time. Back when I had a x1950 xt I never used the stock drivers and always used the retuned drivers.

As to the dodgy power connectors there are plenty of aftermarket 12vhpwr which solve all the flexibility and pin issues with much sturdier construction and higher gauge wires and pins. Won't matter I'll either be waiting for the 60xx line or see what amd has to offer in a couple more years since the 3090ti is still far far more gpu than I need.

gpus used to be better at load balancing the wires. anyway the video i posted may be a little too technical. the derbauer video it was in reference to showed the wires on a thermal camera and 2 wires were carrying all the current, in a properly fitted connection. should make it a little easier for people not versed in ohms law to see what is going on.

[Meep Meep]

Ah didn't watch the videos. Well yeah if only two wires are carrying the current then yep thats a recipe for ignition.