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[Khalcruth]

Dasha Wayne, on 21 March 2025 - 02:52 PM, said:

What makes you say that?


Does PGI do any of the balancing or is it only this 'Cauldron' now?

As if either party would admit to it one way or another. Us plebeians aren't entitled to information.

Edited by Khalcruth, 21 March 2025 - 03:54 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Khalcruth, on 21 March 2025 - 03:52 PM, said:

As if either party would admit to it one way or another. Us plebeians aren't entitled to information.

Don't let KursedVixen's alt fool you, they already know the answer.

[Void Angel]

Dasha Wayne, on 21 March 2025 - 02:52 PM, said:

What makes you say that?


Does PGI do any of the balancing or is it only this 'Cauldron' now?

PGI makes all the balancing decisions. The Cauldron provides ideas, analysis, and debate - and PGI generally listens to them, but also overrules them on things if it so desires.

It bears mentioning that balance overall has dramatically improved since the Cauldron was implemented.

[Tiy0s]

A friendly reminder that use of forum alts is against the rules and I have asked our support team to review this thread.

As for Cauldron, it’s their show. I have overruled them probably 2 or 3 times in the past year or so. Never because I disagree with them, but from a technical or game health perspective. As long as what they’re doing doesn’t actively break the game or stretch its limits, I aim to respect the results of their votes. I vote as well but if democracy swings against me then that’s what happens.

Effectively, PGI is not making the MWO balancing decisions. Cauldron is.

[martian]

Dasha Wayne, on 21 March 2025 - 02:52 PM, said:

What makes you say that?

Does PGI do any of the balancing or is it only this 'Cauldron' now?

KursedVixen, stop pretending that you are a new player who does not know what the "Cauldron" is.


You took a part in many discussions regarding the "Cauldron". For example here, a week ago ...

KursedVixen, on 16 March 2025 - 04:47 AM, said:

Devs rarely play anymore. The cauldron made up of mostly high tier players do all the balancing suggestions now...

... and here ...

KursedVixen, on 31 May 2024 - 05:01 AM, said:

PGi doesn't give a crap about this game at present only Cauldron...

... and in this Faction Play thread ....

KursedVixen, on 14 May 2024 - 08:52 AM, said:

Cauldron killed FP it's dead has been dead... it's a dead mode that needs to be removed Honestly

... and in that thread ...

KursedVixen, on 14 December 2023 - 07:29 AM, said:

Cauldron not devs Cauldron does all balance changes now.

... and here ...

KursedVixen, on 10 December 2023 - 06:59 AM, said:

yep but you or me don't make those decisions, only the cauldron in their third party site. behind a closed but not locked door...

... and here ...

KursedVixen, on 09 December 2023 - 08:42 AM, said:

where's the link to it then?

and if you have to give it to me it totally defeats your whole point.

again why is it hidden in a place i don't immediatly see on the front of the forum or on the front of the website or a link there?

your comment and that link will be buried among other comments and announcments...


So i ask again Why is it hidden? What is it the cauldron don't wan the public to know? because otherwise they would 1.post more frequent updates 2. allow actual feedback from the forum. But they don't so why do they have to hide behind Discord which requires an invite link and a whole DIFFRENT ACCOUNT From MWO

still seems pretty hidden to me

... and here you were blaming the "Cauldron" for hating the Clans ...

KursedVixen, on 05 December 2023 - 11:48 AM, said:

And people call me names and say I'm wrong when I say PGI and Cauldron have a bias towards clans.

... and here you were fighting the menace called "The Cauldron" ...

KursedVixen, on 18 November 2023 - 12:25 PM, said:

i remember when PGI gave a F and Cauldron wasn't the menace it is...

Sometimes, normal-size letters won't do ...

KursedVixen, on 14 November 2023 - 09:58 AM, said:

NOwhat is BS IS THAT THE DAMN CAULDRON CAN'T GET THEIR ******* SNIPER HEADS OUT OF THEIR *** AND REALIZE THAT HAG IS NOT A DAMN SNIPER WEAPON AND SHOULD ******* SPREAD ENOUGH TO ONLY BE USEFUL WITHIN 600m At most and NOT THEIR DAMN SNIPERS WET DREAM. AND TRY THE DAMN WEAPON YOURSELF THE HAG 40 DOES NOT DO 40 damage in a pinpoint pattern if you LEARN TO TWIST the Hag 40 still fires about 8 pellets that do 5 damage each so only if you stand there like a green pilot will you get 40 to the single component and like 40 is even anything in this game to begin with especially vs something like a Fafnir or Atlas
I think I'm just gonna unstall this game until late december to see if the cauldron can pull thier head out of their asses and stop making every gun a sniper weapon.

A[2M<:00p00TE7q00RE7r00QE7|YCs00UE7t00VE7u00WE7v00PE7w000000 Dire with single HAG 40 firing 8 shells per trigger pull.


Af800:00|jbp00|X?q00|X?r00s00t00u00v00w000000 Annihlator Inner sphere 2 ac-20's each firing a single shell

both do 40 damage one fires 2 shells the other 8 shells..

... and in many other forum threads.

KursedVixen, please stop using your sock puppet accounts Heat Skink and Dasha Wayne to pretend that you are a new player, so you can push your agenda forward.

Thank you.

Edited by martian, 22 March 2025 - 07:25 AM.

[Void Angel]

Tiy0s, on 22 March 2025 - 06:27 AM, said:

A friendly reminder that use of forum alts is against the rules and I have asked our support team to review this thread.

As for Cauldron, it’s their show. I have overruled them probably 2 or 3 times in the past year or so. Never because I disagree with them, but from a technical or game health perspective. As long as what they’re doing doesn’t actively break the game or stretch its limits, I aim to respect the results of their votes. I vote as well but if democracy swings against me then that’s what happens.

Effectively, PGI is not making the MWO balancing decisions. Cauldron is.

Good to know - I wasn't aware that the Cauldron had that much free reign, since I remember one of them talking about PGI telling them "no" on something or other. Still doing a good job of it overall, and I'm glad for both parties' contributions.

[Will9761]

If there's one plust with the Sigma mech, it's the Jumpjets. This could potientially pave the way for the Avatar OmniMech (I hope) given the fact that in lore it was created from salvaged Mad Dog parts, just like how the Black Hawk KU was made from the Nova. I do hope that PGI can consider the Avatar being in MWO since it is an ECM Jumping Mad Dog and it would take less resources to make.

[Raydeen]

This is more of the same, You should start the shutdown clock, but I bet EG7 already started it. You can't lose that many players.

[CSJ Edward]

Tiy0s, on 22 March 2025 - 06:27 AM, said:

A friendly reminder that use of forum alts is against the rules and I have asked our support team to review this thread.

As for Cauldron, it’s their show. I have overruled them probably 2 or 3 times in the past year or so. Never because I disagree with them, but from a technical or game health perspective. As long as what they’re doing doesn’t actively break the game or stretch its limits, I aim to respect the results of their votes. I vote as well but if democracy swings against me then that’s what happens.

Effectively, PGI is not making the MWO balancing decisions. Cauldron is.

I know that you are not able to give exact details, but I am curious about the composition of the Cauldron. What percent of the Cauldron are "lore nerds", or "content creators" or "hardcore e-sports people" or "average players"? I would hope that Cauldron is a mix of all types of players, but really it should reflect the demographics of the player base.

Also, what is the status of the Mechwarrior IP and the upcoming renewal chances?

Edited by CSJ Edward, Yesterday, 01:45 PM.

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CSJ Edward, on 23 March 2025 - 01:44 PM, said:

What percent of the Cauldron are "lore nerds", or "content creators" or "hardcore e-sports people" or "average players"? I would hope that Cauldron is a mix of all types of players, but really it should reflect the demographics of the player base.

Should it? Legit question. Why do people think that game design should be a representative democracy? Yes they should have a diverse array of people, but the problem with some of these is that they are opposed to the same vision. Keep in mind there is no single person driving here dictating the problems and the cauldron coming up with a solution like you might see in more technical design committees, which can lead to a stalemate on many issues when there is no one constantly telling the team "don't oppose, propose". It's probably the number one breakdown with design by committee and why ultimately someone is dictating the direction.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, Yesterday, 08:27 PM.

[Void Angel]

Even with design committees, players make the same mistakes voters make in a representative democracy - that anyone who represents their demographic should vote how they want. That kind of attitude starts causing problems: with players, they think that people aren't "listening" when they don't get what they want; with politics, people think that any kind of compromise makes you a traitor.