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#1 Davegt27

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Posted 11 July 2025 - 06:53 PM

any ideas to pump some life back into MWO

seems like everyday player numbers are lower

#2 martian

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Posted 11 July 2025 - 09:52 PM

View PostDavegt27, on 11 July 2025 - 06:53 PM, said:

any ideas to pump some life back into MWO

seems like everyday player numbers are lower

The upcoming Loot Bag event should attract some players back.

#3 GuardDogg

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Posted 11 July 2025 - 10:06 PM

Graphics and make MWO VR. That will bring back players.

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Posted 11 July 2025 - 10:18 PM

View PostDavegt27, on 11 July 2025 - 06:53 PM, said:

any ideas to pump some life back into MWO

seems like everyday player numbers are lower


I’m not playing much these days because it’s summer, and I tend to spend more of my time playing outside.

Good hunting,
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#5 D A T A

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM

buff light mechs even more, so even those 200-300 maniacs who still love this trash nascar brawl retardation over the old "thinking man" shooter can quit in peace and the game can close.

In the end, it was definitely worth to kill the game with *** game balance just to please those 5/10 players who are ****, can't aim, but want to feel "elite", so they went like "why don't we just remove over 600mt play from the game?"

Since we are here, you could also add some trans-pride oriented crap with bunny ears, slap a 50% quirk on that **** just because why not and charge 20 bucks just to get mechs with more quirks.

In the end
1) reward people for being ****, rather than reward for being good
2) kill diversity while claiming to enhance it.
3) force a gameplay that never belonged in any mechwarrior game and that nobody wanted (in fact, we all quit)
4) add pay to win trash

For sure it's gonna work dudes, way to go, hurray Cauldron, surely the low player count is due to age, it's not like even older stuff like age of empires 2 or minecraft thrive like never before just thanks to good game balance

Edited by D A T A, 12 July 2025 - 06:02 PM.


#6 T Hawk

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 01:01 AM

I have played a lot last month. Can't take it any longer. Whenever I see brainless nascar, it makes me quit the match. I try 2-3 games and then move on to play something that's actually fun and challenging.

The matchmaking is atrocious, good players often drop in groups and since we only have one queue the experience for solo players gets worse. These people then quit. It's a cycle of self-destruction that has been going on for way too long.

Reminds me of the old Lineage 2 times. where one clan/alliance pushed to dominate the server. Once they did, everyone quit and moved on to the next freeshard. Dominance established - on a deserted, empty server. And the cycle repeats. :P

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 02:12 AM

I am on Jupiter mission. Will be back in October-November.

#8 martian

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 02:57 AM

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

buff light mechs even more
I remember the buffing of assault-class 'Mechs. Many of them got their torso yaw and pitch rate and turn rate increased in order to make it easier for them to track light 'Mechs.

Also, weapons such as Beam laser or X-Pulse lasers (especially Large X-Pulse laser) benefitted assault-class 'Mechs, since those new weapons literally allowed them to keep the laser beam on fast light 'Mechs.

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

so even those 200-300 maniacs who still love this trash nascar brawl retardation over the old "thinking man" shooter can quit in peace and the game can close.
You have quit MWO a half year ago. Okay. This is your right.

Nobody is holding you here.

So please stop spamming the forums of the game that you do not play. That is really pathetic.

Also, stop insulting people who still enjoy MWO, just because you do not. That is even more pathetic.

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

In the end, it was definitely worth to kill the game with *** game balance just to please those 5/10 players who are ****, can't aim, but want to feel "elite", so they just removed over 600mt play from the game.
My dear boy, your favorite assault sniping in ECM-equipped Dire Wolf or ECM-equipped Blood Asp is still viable. I see various assault snipers in many games.

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

Since we are here, you could also add some trans-pride oriented crap with bunny ears, slap a 50% quirk on that **** just because why not and charge 20 bucks just to get mechs with more quirks.


Do not worry, PGI has you covered. You do not even have to ask:

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View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

In the end
1) reward people for being ****, rather than reward for being good
PSR rewards players quite simply: The better you play, the higher PSR boost you get. The worse performance you show, the deeper is your PSR fall.

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

2) kill diversity while claiming to enhance it.
Do not worry, your favorite assault-class 'Mechs are okay. It is not unusual to see five of them on one side and another five of them on the other side.

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

3) force a gameplay that never belonged in any mechwarrior game and that nobody wanted (in fact, we all quit)
Specifically, you have quit.

I still keep playing, with many others.

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

4) add pay to win trash
Considering the last few Mechpacks that included Gauntlet, "Spectre", "Apache", "Starshot", etc. ... I would not call them "Pay-to-win" ¨Mechs.

View PostD A T A, on 12 July 2025 - 12:54 AM, said:

For sure it's gonna work dudes, way to go, hurray Cauldron, surely the low player count is due to age, it's not like even older stuff like age of empires 2 or minecraft thrive like never before just thanks to good game balance
Are you sure that you want to compare MechWarrior Online, i.e. a first person shooter based on a very niche war sci-fi IP and produced and published by a tiny company, with Age of Empires? AoE is a completely different genre of game (a historical real-time strategy game).

Edited by martian, 12 July 2025 - 02:59 AM.


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Posted 12 July 2025 - 04:25 AM

I would love new game modes but the player base gonna just play it like skrimish so I don't see much. I would rather move mwo to a new engine. But even that's doubtful.

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 09:05 AM

I picked up Starshot on my alt when it went on sale recently. It's very fun, if it were pay to win my alt would be higher than T2 by now. Moonwalker is vastly more murderous and if I played nothing but that I could see cheesing my alt to T1 which... I'll be honest I'm already kind of not enjoying T2 as I try to put Snek's map tutorial's to memory and I'm waiting for the bar to dip again. Assaults seem really strong. Mad Cat IIs, Stone Rhinos, etc, see them posting good numbers.

Spectre was painful without sinking 50 gsp into it from get-go. It's still a very weird mech and I'm sure high skill players can do work with it but it is VERY challenging to work with. It was cheap and it looks pretty cool though.

Edited by a 5 year old with an Uzi, 12 July 2025 - 09:14 AM.


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Posted 12 July 2025 - 11:03 AM

population numbers look grim. population projections on jarls show that were about 2 months away from having the worst population we ever had including the mw5 slump. thats probibly not the death threshold but its a milepost along the way.

you might eventually see a reduction in services such as shutting down servers or reduction of game size below 12v12 to stay in the green. we have already seen the cost of mech packs go up. but that will have a cascade effect as some people dont want that and will leave as a result. wait times are ultimately going to be what kills the game (which was my primary reason for quitting fp).

drastic changes are probibly not coming. things like converting over to private servers or allowing respawn so the match can go on and reduce time spent waiting. i dont think that change is easy or cheap. the game will run until the population gets low and people stop buying things because they see the writing on the wall and the game will sunest. you might see an mwll resurgence or mw5 pvp mods get more use. enjoy the game while its still in the green.

View PostGuardDogg, on 11 July 2025 - 10:06 PM, said:

Graphics and make MWO VR. That will bring back players.


vr is nice in single player like the vr warrior mod for mw5. but i think it would reduce my pvp performance. my performance improved in mwo when i stopped using track-ir (though that was a poor implementation that caused all kinds of hud alignment issues where i had to constantly recenter or my sights would be off).

though i dont think it will bring back players. vr seems to have been a passing fad again and is about as niche as mwo is.

Edited by LordNothing, 12 July 2025 - 11:27 AM.


#12 Drenzul

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 12:24 PM

This happens literally every summer lol.

Panic stations alpha seems a bit overkill

#13 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 12:36 PM

View PostDrenzul, on 12 July 2025 - 12:24 PM, said:

This happens literally every summer lol.

Panic stations alpha seems a bit overkill

Not only that, but there's not really anything "to do". Games die, and this one has had a life. All we can hope is that something else will come along and fill the gap left by it.

View PostBattlemaster56, on 12 July 2025 - 04:25 AM, said:

I would rather move mwo to a new engine. But even that's doubtful.

It's not doubtful, it's straight up not going to happen.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 12 July 2025 - 01:04 PM.


#14 Tyrant One

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 02:02 PM

1. Resize everything. Lights are too small, assaults are too big.

2. Community wide effort in producing "HOW TO PLAY MWO" videos. Need to put more emphasis on the teamwork aspect. Stressing importance of patient ranged gameplay vs useless duelist brawling builds only contributing a target to the enemy for 90% of the match. Guides on how to poke-tart, pop-tart or how to master handling your mechs. Almost like your rebanding the game to focus on "Game is simple to play, hard to master. A Hero-less Hero-shooter requiring the teamwork of a Hero-shooter."

3. Off-season league for up and coming compies? (doubtful) Weekend-tournaments? Need stuff above and beyond quick-play to drive engagement.

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 02:17 PM

View PostTyrant One, on 12 July 2025 - 02:02 PM, said:

1. Resize everything. Lights are too small, assaults are too big.

2. Community wide effort in producing "HOW TO PLAY MWO" videos. Need to put more emphasis on the teamwork aspect. Stressing importance of patient ranged gameplay vs useless duelist brawling builds only contributing a target to the enemy for 90% of the match. Guides on how to poke-tart, pop-tart or how to master handling your mechs. Almost like your rebanding the game to focus on "Game is simple to play, hard to master. A Hero-less Hero-shooter requiring the teamwork of a Hero-shooter."

3. Off-season league for up and coming compies? (doubtful) Weekend-tournaments? Need stuff above and beyond quick-play to drive engagement.


How do you make a tutorial for people who run away from the fight and don't understand that's their death sentence? Besides, there are many good tutorials on Youtube already.

MW5 AI performs better than 90% of the players you meet in QP. It's hopeless.

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 04:37 PM

View PostQuicksilver Aberration, on 12 July 2025 - 12:36 PM, said:

Not only that, but there's not really anything "to do". Games die, and this one has had a life. All we can hope is that something else will come along and fill the gap left by it.


It's not doubtful, it's straight up not going to happen.

MWO does not have to die. Their is older games that been fixed, adjusted to today computers. Stupid enough, people still play countrer-strike. Like wtf? Look at DCS, way older than MWO and look at it today. Kicking &#$* in so many ways.

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Posted 12 July 2025 - 08:12 PM

View PostTyrant One, on 12 July 2025 - 02:02 PM, said:

1. Resize everything. Lights are too small, assaults are too big.


This can be solved with more indoor maps and a bit more armour values on anything 100t.

We already have plenty of maps like this, I cant believe they are not in QP, just make the Solaris maps QP 8v8 drops.

View PostGuardDogg, on 11 July 2025 - 10:06 PM, said:

Graphics and make MWO VR. That will bring back players.


I think some simple changes to how vivid the game looks from the devs side would be welcome. Increasing contrast, gamma, reducing particles etc.

Edited by l33tworks, 12 July 2025 - 08:14 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2025 - 08:57 PM

View PostDrenzul, on 12 July 2025 - 12:24 PM, said:

This happens literally every summer lol.

Panic stations alpha seems a bit overkill


to be fair if those jarls projections were to be believed, id have quit the game 2 years ago. but watching entropy happen is kind of disconcerting, even if you cant quite accurately pin down the rate.

Edited by LordNothing, 12 July 2025 - 08:58 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2025 - 09:01 PM

View PostGuardDogg, on 11 July 2025 - 10:06 PM, said:

Graphics and make MWO VR. That will bring back players.

VR would be fantastic, honestly.

View Postl33tworks, on 12 July 2025 - 08:12 PM, said:

I think some simple changes to how vivid the game looks from the devs side would be welcome. Increasing contrast, gamma, reducing particles etc.

The shading and lighting needs a rework. Not just changing the color palette.

Edited by Khosumi, 12 July 2025 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2025 - 09:13 PM

View PostGuardDogg, on 11 July 2025 - 10:06 PM, said:

Graphics and make MWO VR. That will bring back players.

View Postl33tworks, on 12 July 2025 - 08:12 PM, said:

I think some simple changes to how vivid the game looks from the devs side would be welcome. Increasing contrast, gamma, reducing particles etc.

View PostKhosumi, on 12 July 2025 - 09:01 PM, said:

The shading and lighting needs a rework. Not just changing the color palette.

Naive question from someone playing the game in low settings: are there really people playing MWO for how good or not it looks?





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