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[Armored Yokai]

Did MW5 Clans Win? Will we still get more and more mechs or will the Shadowhawk IIC be the very last mech we ever get?

[LordNothing]

i dont think clans did very well. its first dlc was kind of given away for free to sell copies of the game. second one is just pulling mwo assets and i dont think its giving anything back. no grizzly?

Edited by LordNothing, 21 July 2025 - 05:41 PM.

[w0qj]

Guys, I love the saltiness drift of this forum lately. Please stop.
All this talk risks scaring those who might buy MWO mech packs!
Please stop.

MWO is fun! The Shadow Hawk IIC is beautiful! Cannot wait to pull the trigger to buy it once it comes out in Sept!

And I'll be buying MW5:Mercs and all of its DLC all in one go on GOG.com, now that it has official Clan mech assets in it!

[martian]

Armored Yokai, on 21 July 2025 - 04:42 PM, said:

Did Mechwarrior 5 Clans Sell Well Enough To Keep Mwo Alive?

We do not know.

But I can tell you that the Enad Global 7's leadership was disappointed with the performance of MechWarrior 5: Clans:

Enad Global 7 said:

"In addition, Piranhas launch of MechWarrior 5: Clans in Q4 performed below projections due to a competitive release window."

EG7 can simply order PGI to pull the plug on MechWarrior Online at any time, while still having them to work on one or two expansion packs for MechWarrior 5: Clans.

Armored Yokai, on 21 July 2025 - 04:42 PM, said:

Did MW5 Clans Win?

All I can give you is this direct quote, as released by the Enad Global 7 company:

Enad Global 7 said:

"Despite the strong development achievement, the game did not meet our commercial expectations."

Armored Yokai, on 21 July 2025 - 04:42 PM, said:

Will we still get more and more mechs or will the Shadowhawk IIC be the very last mech we ever get?

Nothing has been announced officially so far.

It is quite possible for EG7 to let PGI release last one or two expansion packs for MechWarrior 5: Clans and then shut down PGI for good. And since it seems that all-new 'Mechs depend on the MechWarrior 5: Clans development ... Without that continuing development, the probability of getting all-new 'Mechs in MWO is not exactly high.

Edited by martian, 21 July 2025 - 09:26 PM.

[Armored Yokai]

w0qj, on 21 July 2025 - 06:42 PM, said:

Please stop.

The Shadowhawk IIC came out and I heard about EG7, I wonder if the Shadowhawk IIC is a sign that MW is back in business

[LordNothing]

w0qj, on 21 July 2025 - 06:42 PM, said:

Guys, I love the saltiness drift of this forum lately. Please stop.
All this talk risks scaring those who might buy MWO mech packs!
Please stop.

MWO is fun! The Shadow Hawk IIC is beautiful! Cannot wait to pull the trigger to buy it once it comes out in Sept!

And I'll be buying MW5:Mercs and all of its DLC all in one go on GOG.com, now that it has official Clan mech assets in it!

im just calling it as i see it. i bought clans last christmas and still havent gotten around to playing it, let alone collecting dlc. but was it a success? probibly not. doing ghost bear without grizzly is kind of a mortal sin (if they didnt include it, i honestly haven't looked). i interpreted the question as whether or not clans had any new mechs that could be backported. and as far as i know that's a negatory. i suspect thats the reason it didnt do so well is it was all reused assets we've seen before.

best way to keep mwo alive is to buy mechs and keep playing.

Edited by LordNothing, 21 July 2025 - 11:20 PM.

[LordNothing]

Armored Yokai, on 21 July 2025 - 11:12 PM, said:

The Shadowhawk IIC came out and I heard about EG7, I wonder if the Shadowhawk IIC is a sign that MW is back in business

content shows signs of life. seeing people with that content on patch day will be a good indication. at least it will pay the bills another month or two.

[GreyNovember]

LordNothing, on 21 July 2025 - 11:17 PM, said:

doing ghost bear without grizzly is kind of a mortal sin

I'm gonna be real, I had to DIG to find what a "Grizzly" was.

Kodiak has so many more appearances in other media, and actually looks bear-ish.

[martian]

Armored Yokai, on 21 July 2025 - 11:12 PM, said:

The Shadowhawk IIC came out and I heard about EG7, I wonder if the Shadowhawk IIC is a sign that MW is back in business

You mean MW-O? Not exactly.

All-new 'Mechs depend on the MW5: Clans development heavily. And reskinned existing 'Mechs? I see them less and less often in the game, even right after their release.

[BlueDevilspawn]

MW5 is the current flagship.

MWO is 1) an ability to say "portfolio play" with pvp and live service, 2) MW player/enthusiast retention. The last time Russ talked about it, MWO was in the black/profitable on its own. I don't know if this has changed but probably still the same, which is a big deal in deciding to keep it around. It sustains itself.

The purpose of MW5 is to justify investment and design of "MW Next" not to keep MWO going.

[LordNothing]

GreyNovember, on 21 July 2025 - 11:30 PM, said:

I'm gonna be real, I had to DIG to find what a "Grizzly" was.

Kodiak has so many more appearances in other media, and actually looks bear-ish.

sombody didnt play ghost bear's legacy.

[LordNothing]

BlueDevilspawn, on 22 July 2025 - 07:31 AM, said:

MW5 is the current flagship.

MWO is 1) an ability to say "portfolio play" with pvp and live service, 2) MW player/enthusiast retention. The last time Russ talked about it, MWO was in the black/profitable on its own. I don't know if this has changed but probably still the same, which is a big deal in deciding to keep it around. It sustains itself.

The purpose of MW5 is to justify investment and design of "MW Next" not to keep MWO going.

id like to think that. i figure mw5 dlcs are mostly to port content over to ue as well as fund new mechs that can be backported. once you have enough assets ported its not too much to bundle them into a (hopefully stand alone) arena shooter. problem is clans really didnt do either of these things. if a replacement product comes into existance, i figure dlc will replace the mech pack. otherwise i doubt all the mechs will be ported. but i think enough have been ported to make a new game make sense. mwo still being in the green is probibly the reason it hasn't happened yet.

Edited by LordNothing, 22 July 2025 - 07:45 PM.

[Lanzman]

Every game has a lifespan. MWO has been dancing on the edge of oblivion for a while now but IMHO you still can't beat the gameplay and first-person nature of this interface. A wise developer would be thinking very seriously about MWO II (or whatever it would be called) with a free-to-play entry tier followed by monetized "advanced" levels.

Say the entry tier would include, I dunno, ten mechs each IS and Clan, and a dozen maps. Mechpacks could work just like they do now and maybe add some kind of subscription fee for "advanced" maps and mech load outs. Not pay-to-win, but say later timeline weapons and systems become available under subscription with the caveat that they can't be used in the entry tier.

I'm just spitballing here.

Edited by Lanzman, 28 July 2025 - 02:38 PM.

[Nikushimi]

Armored Yokai, on 21 July 2025 - 04:42 PM, said:

Did MW5 Clans Win?

EG7 canned like 38 employees at PGI over MW5 clan's poor numbers.