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[Void Angel]

BlueDevilspawn, on 13 August 2025 - 07:24 AM, said:

Weird, it's supposed to be -5% to -10% but I'm checking...

Thanks!

[Duke Falcon]

Swift li'l questions, huns...
That back-mounted railgun... Belongs to which hitbox exactly? Shared between the two sides? That would made it quite damn hard to critted... Belongs to CT? Everyone would know where to aim for a nice cored-engine-death-hit (what a dumb word I created again!).

Overall these railguns ain't not look that damn scary. Damn heavy in exchange of a few shots. The Bullshark is 95 tons, right? -30 by the railgun... It seems to demand hard sacrifices in terms of speed, armour or cooling...
Personally not sure that gun worth it. But since it taken from MechCommander... Can we have it on a Mad dog (as it were originally in that game)? That would crippled build for sure... < insert tons of possible memes here >

[Steel Raven]

Duke Falcon, on 13 August 2025 - 09:42 AM, said:

Swift li'l questions, huns...
That back-mounted railgun... Belongs to which hitbox exactly?

InnerSphereNews, on 05 August 2025 - 12:01 PM, said:

..losing an ST will not crit out the Railgun. This means you can run a standard engine build if you desire.

Duke Falcon, on 13 August 2025 - 09:42 AM, said:

Everyone would know where to aim for a nice cored-engine-death-hit

Yes, the center torso, the most well armored part of any mech.

Duke Falcon, on 13 August 2025 - 09:42 AM, said:

Personally not sure that gun worth it.

Nether do I but it's the equivalent of 2X Gauss + ER PPC with splash damage, without worrying about convergence and it sits right above the cockpit so some snipers are going to love it. Other are going to buy it just to have a center torso weapon that's almost the equivalent of Dual Heavy Gauss with standard Gauss Rifle range and chuckle when they do a alpha strike with the Rail Gun+ 6 ER Med Lasers without exploding right away.

[Rhaelcan]

Iceheart Star, on 12 August 2025 - 08:53 AM, said:

40 damage is instant armor penetration on the forward side torso and limb locations of almost all Medium 'Mechs and instant penetration on all Light 'Mech armor locations (EDIT: some Clan lights can actually survive this). My up-armored Raven could barely survive a single railgun round to its most armored point (CT), and that is because I have it loaded with 42 points of armor. A railgun fired in cohesion with a second weapon (i.e. Large Laser) is going internal. Even the better-protected Centurion would lose more than 68% of its center torso armor in a single hit, 90.9% of its side torso armor in a single hit, and 80% of its leg armor in a single hit. These calculations assume one railgun round hits each location, and does not take into account splash damage.

So, you are correct. Not a garunteed kill on anything under 60 tons. More like a serious threat on anything between 45-55 tons (armor stripped or almost stripped from an entire location), a mission kill to anything between 35-40 tons (armor breached, possible component damage), and a hard kill/mission kill on 30-20 tonners (ammo/CT destroyed or armor breached).

Admittedly, when looking at the explosion chances and heat generation, this seems slightly more reasonable. Still, being able to knock all or most of the armor off of a location with a single round at long range is a massive advantage that cannot be ignored, especially when you consider the fact that the new 'Mechs will also have Large and Medium lasers to critseek or remove whatever armor remains in a location after the railgun hits.

We have a lot of mechs that can mount 2 heavy gauss rifles, along with other weaponry. The railgun, is much more balanced.

[Vellron2005]

So.. Pay to win?

[KursedVixen]

Rhaelcan, on 14 August 2025 - 11:53 AM, said:

We have a lot of mechs that can mount 2 heavy gauss rifles, along with other weaponry. The railgun, is much more balanced.

compared to the hag 40 pre 2nd nerf?

[BlueDevilspawn]

Void Angel, on 13 August 2025 - 07:59 AM, said:

Thanks!

Going to -15%
Probably fine since the best build imo is still the snub/smalls build, but ERML / ML / MPL+ERSL will get a boost

[Void Angel]

BlueDevilspawn, on 15 August 2025 - 08:41 AM, said:

Going to -15%
Probably fine since the best build imo is still the snub/smalls build, but ERML / ML / MPL+ERSL will get a boost

Sweet! I hated that the going build bypassed the most individualizing quirks - but in any case, thank you so much for taking the time to find that out and reply. I really appreciate it.