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[Vulpesveritas]

Gotta love AMD for reintroducing the option for budget gaming.

[AlexHxyz]

Vulpesveritas, on 09 January 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

Mobo; $70 http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157261
CPU+GPU: $ 90 http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103951
RAM: $30/4GB dual channel http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820103004
PSU: $45 http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182202
Total: ~$250 to upgrade your PC with all new parts on FM1. You'll be able to use your other old parts (if you have an IDE drive you'll have to get a SATA adapter though) and you'll play the game on mediumish settings.

alright so in your eyes, are these parts anywhere near mid to top-notch equipments (like if i did a major upgrade now, i won't have to do another one for at least 4 years)? if i do upgrade, it will most likely be around march where I'll get a spring break to find a computer tech to build it so hopefully they will drop in price

[Catamount]

You have to give them props, for sure. Making an integrated GPU with the power of a low-mid range discreet GPU, but keeping the power envelope of a normal integrated GPU is no small feat.

[Vulpesveritas]

AlexHxyz, on 09 January 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

alright so in your eyes, are these parts anywhere near mid to top-notch equipments (like if i did a major upgrade now, i won't have to do another one for at least 4 years)? if i do upgrade, it will most likely be around march where I'll get a spring break to find a computer tech to build it so hopefully they will drop in price

Well no, this is low-mid end. Higher end parts would be:
Intel i5-2500k/AMD FX-8120p $220
Radeon hd 6850+ GPU $150+
8/16GB RAM $50+
Motherboard ~$150-$200
80+ Gold/platinum 700 watt+ PSU $150+

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 09 January 2012 - 02:34 PM.

[Garth Erlam]

(We've added this forum area specifically for threads like this - thanks for all your enthusiasm for helping eachother )

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Woot.
Let the geeks roam free!

[AlexHxyz]

Vulpesveritas, on 09 January 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

Well no, this is low-mid end. Higher end parts would be:
Intel i5-2500k/AMD FX-8120p $220
Radeon hd 6850+ GPU $150+
8/16GB RAM $50+
Motherboard ~$150-$200
80+ Gold/platinum 700 watt+ PSU $150+

so im looking at either $250 with a shorter lifespan or $770 eh. tough choice...

btw thanks you guys alot. I appreciate you all giving me feedback.

Edited by AlexHxyz, 09 January 2012 - 02:43 PM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

It's not a tough choice, Longer lifespan with upgrade potential in the future is what you want to aim for, works out better in the long run.
As always money ruins the fun ;p and its that which controls what we play with. It's why i said at the very start of this thread, your own budget information is probably the most important aspect you can give people, at least then people dream up systems within your price range

[Vulpesveritas]

Sub-$500 option with a little better lasting time.

AMD A8-3870k APU
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819106001 $144
Radeon HD 6670 GPU
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102952 $75
Asroc Motherboard
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157260 $70
4GB AMD RAM (2 sticks of 2GB)
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820103004 $30
80+ bronze PSU:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817171060 $50

If you want it to last longer/ give you future options (FM2 socket APUs / AMD trinity A4/6/8/10 will work on FM1 according to AMD) higher end motherboards for ~$50 more:
Biostar: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813138334
Asus: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131784
Gigabyte: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128515

I would recommend the Asus board over the others.

Future RAM upgrade:
CAS8 1866mhz 8GB(fastest option, less RAM)
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231447
CAS9 1866mhz 16GB (More Ram, slightly slower)
Gskill: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231499
Mushkin: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820226276
Corsair: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820233236

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 09 January 2012 - 03:06 PM.

[Catamount]

Garth Erlam, on 09 January 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

(We've added this forum area specifically for threads like this - thanks for all your enthusiasm for helping eachother )

Thank you, really, not just for adding the forum, but for actually being willing to listen feedback on the forums calling for a hardware forum.


This is a far, far cry from Cryptic's treatment of us on the STO forums

[Vulpesveritas]

+1 for new forum section.
First time my actions have helped create a new section of a forum. lol
well, save for coding it of course

[RyannVonDoom]

Very cool we got our own section!

[lyonn]

PC gamer has a 2012 PC build budget guide out;

http://www.pcgamer.c...ew-year-new-rig

[Oderint dum Metuant]

lyonn, on 10 January 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

PC gamer has a 2012 PC build budget guide out;

http://www.pcgamer.c...ew-year-new-rig

Whilst the actual build is great for now and future and i would go with over an AMD build especially sub FX 8520/8550 (sorry vulp) i wouldnt call [color=#000000]

Total: £910.62/$1303.74 "Budget"

I think

http://www.bit-tech....eptember-2011/2
is more budget £500/$700 and if you can scrape another 200 bucks their Enthusiast Overclocker build is even better.

Edited by DV^McKenna, 10 January 2012 - 08:47 AM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Eh I could do a bit better on an FM1 build and throwing on a Radeon Hd 6870, getting a cheaper case, and RAM for $5 less I would think.
Course as before I'm anti-intel and I see an AMD card as a better value personally. That's just me.

[Thorqemada]

lyonn, on 10 January 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

PC gamer has a 2012 PC build budget guide out;

http://www.pcgamer.c...ew-year-new-rig

This one is with Monitor - its around the 1k range without it which is a budget range many can afford.
Especially when you keep in mind that there is a slowdown in the need to upgrade, it doenst matter if new consoles come out or not, a performance class PC in the 1k price range build today will allways be better than any console in the next 2 years!

[Vulpesveritas]

Well except that the Xbox 720 and PS4 are rumored to come out late this year/next year.

But yeah. Usually a $1000 computer if done right will outperform a console for years.

[Thorqemada]

CPU-wise Intel has more performance but AMD is often very competitive with the pricing of its offers, i think below ~120$ AMD is better, up to ~175$ its even and above Intel wins.
Especially the integrated CPU/GPU thing seems very reasonable for cheap systems and afaik Intel has no real counterpart for that - for gaming that would be low end.
To me i buy AMD bcs they never let my down, stay in my favoured price range, still have pins and the Intel cooler retention system does scare me.
But Intel is a good choice again since they got rid of the netburst error.

Nvidia still has my anger when they stopped driver support for my soundstorm2, nf2, Asus a7n8x deluxe board a few months after it was released and forced me to look for third party modded drivers.
This is bad behaviour and i very slowly forget such things.

[Fyrwulf]

You know, unless you have the cash for the really high end Intel CPUs, AMD is probably a smarter bet. One, they've never had Intel's habit of rapidly changing sockets, so you know you can upgrade your computer if a future chip strikes your fancy. Two, I've seen a couple FX 8150 reviews that seem to suggest that outside of those same uber expensive Intel chips the eight core AMD chips kick the crap out of Intel's in heavily multi-threaded environments.

Plus, the APUs show a LOT of promise. Imagine what an 8150 FX + 7990 on a single die would do.

[Vulpesveritas]

Err well wait till 2013 for that when the GCN architecture and steamroller are put on the same die with 30% higher IPC and and GCN's GPU computing abilities on the same die, so floating point can be transferred to the graphics chip.

I'm excited to see whether AMD can pull off a counter on Intel with Steamroller. would be interesting to see a repeat of the Athalon 64/ pentium 4 days. .