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[ArchSight]

Thorn Hallis, on 08 January 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

Marik is more based on eastern and southern europe as well as India.

Yeah, I'm certainly going to join Free Rasalhague Republic while it still exists.

[John Clavell]

Welcome to the party Dermatran. I'm sure you wont stay a newbie for long.

[Verminaard]

I like the FRR, but I'm still a Federated suns player. Unless Davion is overpopulated I won't be joining FRR. Gotta go where the work is afterall XD

[Naduk]

i used to find all the politics very confusing with all the who hates who and who likes who

but then i realised there is only two real factions

Faction 1
they show as red and produce C-bills when placed under my crosshairs

Faction 2
anyone in my unit who does not show as red

[Adridos]

Verminaard, on 09 January 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:

I like the FRR, but I'm still a Federated suns player. Unless Davion is overpopulated I won't be joining FRR. Gotta go where the work is afterall XD

You can change your avatar right now then. Davions have more players than ever before.

[Leonardo Monteiro]

I've read today this quote that pretty sums up the BT universe, IMO


"'Let me give you some advice, Captain,' he said, 'It may help you to make sense of the world. I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.'"

— Lord Vetinari, Guards! Guards!

[Commraid]

Leonardo Monteiro, on 09 January 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

I've read today this quote that pretty sums up the BT universe, IMO


"'Let me give you some advice, Captain,' he said, 'It may help you to make sense of the world. I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.'"

— Lord Vetinari, Guards! Guards!

Well put.--
The way I see it, from the day the first colonies broke off from Terra in 2236 to this day (in 3049 !) humanity has been in a war of some sort. None of the major factions really care whether you fight, let alone who you fight for. Hence I go with the mercs, at least with them I can make a few creds before this burning trainwreck of a species hits the floor.

[Alaskan Viking]

Adridos, on 06 January 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

The sides you choose from are: Davion, Steiner, Kurita, Liao, Marik and Free Rasalhague Republic + being a mercenary, or stay a "lone wolf". You will be able to join Clans later.

Davions:

You played as one of them in Mechwarrior 4.
They see themselves as the good guys.
They are based on USA, England.
They are the most popular house in fanbase.
They love autocannons.
They are dumb.


Marik:

Based on western culture as Davions.
Lots of mech production capability (but they make tanks till Clans invade).
Lots of infighting, since they are only democratic house.
They wear "manly purple" and paint their mechs that way.
Normal popularity.
They are allies with us (Liao).

Thorn Hallis, on 08 January 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

Marik is more based on eastern and southern europe as well as India.

Really? Sarna.net says that Davion is English/French Constitutional Monarchy, while Marik is the American and Indian, capitalist, Democratic faction. If you look at the way the Marik government is structured (according to Sarna, I haven't read any of the Novels or other fluff fiction, etc) it is pretty much an exact copy of (or a leftist parody of...) the US Federal government, with a legislative branch and an executive branch, and different planets (States) having a certain amount of independence and autonomy. It has a one leader dictatorship, like Davion, Steiner, Kurita, et al, but that is because the office of the Presidency has been granted dictatorial powers over the years by the legislator, not a pure monarchy like Davion/Steiner.

Man From AUNTIE, on 07 January 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

I love the Telephone company comment Adridos.

I know I LOL'd at that too.

Edited by Alaskan Viking, 11 January 2012 - 01:00 PM.

[Solis Obscuri]

Adridos, on 06 January 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

Clans:

Special warriors which inavded Inner Sphere.
They are divided between various clans.
They have the best mechs, but they are low on numbers.
They follow "Zellbrigen", which are rules on how to fight.
Insane popularity. (guess why)
They will become available a year after launch.
They will get beaten by telephone company and one of the clans will get destroyed by Inner Sphere.

Don't **** with Ma Bell...

[Ralinos]

Verminaard, on 09 January 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:

I like the FRR, but I'm still a Federated suns player. Unless Davion is overpopulated I won't be joining FRR. Gotta go where the work is afterall XD

Well, join us and I can guarantee you'll have all the enemies you could want about a month or so after launch!

[Caballo]

The dragon is the only honourable way... Be water, my friend

[Stormwolf]

Caballo, on 12 January 2012 - 10:31 AM, said:

The dragon is the only honourable way... Be water, my friend

Hence why they resorted to dishonorable tactics on Wolcott.

[Adridos]

Stormwolf, on 12 January 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

Hence why they resorted to dishonorable tactics on Wolcott.

Clans are not some kind of super honor demanding warriors too. How about their fight with Kai Allard? Clan tech vs. Centurion, then Kai against 6 Elementals if I remember right.

[Zedera]

I never bought this honor or moral stuff. It's all just an excuse for when you lose. "He beat me because he had no honor or morals. He cheated." No one's gonna know nor care about that. You lost, he won. Straight numbers.

There are rules, but rules were meant to be broken. If they weren't, Clan Wolf would have never succeeded in the Battle of Tukayyid, and Kurita would be a much more popular faction than it is right now. When the game's released, make your own rules, and break them as required.

[Caballo]

Stormwolf, on 12 January 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

Hence why they resorted to dishonorable tactics on Wolcott.

Adridos, on 12 January 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

Clans are not some kind of super honor demanding warriors too. How about their fight with Kai Allard? Clan tech vs. Centurion, then Kai against 6 Elementals if I remember right.

...this

Zedera, on 12 January 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

I never bought this honor or moral stuff. It's all just an excuse for when you lose. "He beat me because he had no honor or morals. He cheated." No one's gonna know nor care about that. You lost, he won. Straight numbers.

There are rules, but rules were meant to be broken. If they weren't, Clan Wolf would have never succeeded in the Battle of Tukayyid, and Kurita would be a much more popular faction than it is right now. When the game's released, make your own rules, and break them as required.

Pretty much the usual line of bussiness expected from the Davions.

Edited by Caballo, 12 January 2012 - 11:25 AM.

[Rabbit Blacksun]

And that ... is why I stay lone wolf ... we dont deal with polotics, we ensure that every one has an equal value, we just cant help it that some values are worth more then others >_>

[Blackfire1]

Adridos, on 06 January 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

Free Rasalhague Republic:

Based on vikings and scandinavians.
They parted from Kuritans, so they hate each other.
Lore wise, after the Clans invade, they will loose all, but 7 planets.
BUT their players believe they will "hold the line".
Earliest access to rare powerful Clan tech.
Mostly made out of waiting Clan players.

Not true. Many of us are just FRR through & through.

[Leonardo Monteiro]

Blackfire1, on 13 January 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Not true. Many of us are just FRR through & through.

Really??? There are so many suicidals out there????

[Thorn Hallis]

Alaskan Viking, on 11 January 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Really? Sarna.net says that Davion is English/French Constitutional Monarchy, while Marik is the American and Indian, capitalist, Democratic faction. If you look at the way the Marik government is structured (according to Sarna, I haven't read any of the Novels or other fluff fiction, etc) it is pretty much an exact copy of (or a leftist parody of...) the US Federal government, with a legislative branch and an executive branch, and different planets (States) having a certain amount of independence and autonomy. It has a one leader dictatorship, like Davion, Steiner, Kurita, et al, but that is because the office of the Presidency has been granted dictatorial powers over the years by the legislator, not a pure monarchy like Davion/Steiner.

Really, as we're not talking about political systems here. It's all about heritage.