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[Lucky 13 X]

Can I start my 3 months at a time of my choosing, or does it start at the game's official launch? I have other games to play, and I want to make the most of my $120 since it is not a lifetime sub which would allow me to come and go from this game without guilt of not playing.

I have just too many other console and PC MMOs I play to devote three months to this at launch when I already have that time booked for Guild Wars 2, TOR, Halo 4, DC Universe, LOTRO STO, and so many more.

[Stalgrim]

Ahh, damnit....You're right, I can't make the most of my premium account untill I've gotten the GW2 out of me. I'd also like to know the answer to this. Maybe they could turn it into a number of matches kind of thing? Just let us convert 1 month into 100 match boosts? :| Iuno...TO THE SUPPORT!

If not then atleast I've gotten my $80 in in-game currency and my 4 founders mechs and my SNAZZEH Legendary Founders badge and my early access to BETA and my (maybe, possibly, can't say for sure because of NDA not that I'm under an NDA or anything) CBT invite and recognition of my support of MWO as well as the premium I will only get a few weeks of use out of before GW2 comes out and a little use of it during the rest of the time that it's active. Yeah I think it was worth buying.

[Spectre Six]

I wouldn't mind 4 mechs, but I would rather get a regular mech. I guess I'm one of those pilots that's like "Eh... a mech's a mech."

Oh and it's not just Legendary.. it's...

Edited by Spectre Six, 01 August 2012 - 08:27 PM.

[Belial]

Here's my reasoning:

The Founder's package is meant for people who want to be there for the official inception of MWO, hence the name. All our accounts are supposed to go active on August 7th, with (presumably) the premium part starting when official release day hits. So you may not be able to delay it at all. And by the way, it is sort of still a lifetime subscription in that your Founders 'Mechs are permanently in your Mech Bay and they will always give the EXP and C-Bill boost, over the lifetime of the product.

[ItsDevin]

Belial, on 01 August 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Here's my reasoning:

The Founder's package is meant for people who want to be there for the official inception of MWO, hence the name. All our accounts are supposed to go active on August 7th, with (presumably) the premium part starting when official release day hits. So you may not be able to delay it at all. And by the way, it is sort of still a lifetime subscription in that your Founders 'Mechs are permanently in your Mech Bay and they will always give the EXP and C-Bill boost, over the lifetime of the product.

Edited for NDA

possibly at some point ALL the founders will be invited into the Closed Beta ..

and if said invitation would happen .. because the game is still in a Beta Phase.

You will not get your-
Premium Status
Founder Mech's or
Exp and C-Bill Boost

you will most likely receive all that when the Game goes Full Launch after the Open Beta

However in the Beta Phase typically you get Free MC to use and it usually gets wiped every time they reset the accounts which usually corresponding with an update of some sort.

additionally if MWO runs there Beta similar to WoT did .. you will gain an immense amount of in game currency so you can buy and build what ever you want.


as for being able to select your Premium status time; as far as I can tell
your 3 months stats the game the game full releases and ends 3 months after.

Edited by ItsDevin, 02 August 2012 - 10:57 AM.

[Meth Borm]

*Buys a founder mech form another player after launch with in game curency* All Primium seems to do is give a C-bill and exp boost. Not guna mater much playing all day anway or once a mech is maxed. Nothing you coun't simply do with more effort unless theres more to it that im unawear of.

Edited by Meth Borm, 01 August 2012 - 08:40 PM.

[Marvin Martian]

Belial, on 01 August 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

And by the way, it is sort of still a lifetime subscription in that your Founders 'Mechs are permanently in your Mech Bay and they will always give the EXP and C-Bill boost, over the lifetime of the product.

The premium subcription gives you the XP and C-bill boost. The mech only gives you a C-bill boost.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Marvin Martian, on 01 August 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

The premium subcription gives you the XP and C-bill boost. The mech only gives you a C-bill boost.

And if this game ends up anything like WoTs, that C-bill boost might just well be worth it.

[Mechxican JAKE]

I still can't see how early access to a game and getting one of four mechs that only gains you extra xp and c-bills/make-believe money equates to 120 real dollars? Names in the credits/founders tag is already a joke cause it will be absolutely indistinguishable amongst the hundreds and hundreds of founders competing for such trivial recognition. Not trolling here-trust me I've been playing and LOVING Mechwarrior since all the way back when 32mb of RAM in a computer was a "big deal" and so far this year I've purchased from amazon.com all the past Mechwarrior games that I never had a chance to play(forked out atleast $100). I know that everything that has time put into it has to cost something, but I have never seen any other game titles that pretty much persuades you into spending $120 to help them "get off their feet" and the only thing they offer for that is cheesy gimmicks like extra points when you play against other people and its not even single player so you're forced to play against people who'll wipe the floor with you in 2 seconds since they devote their entire waking life towards video games.

So technically this game is free-to-play but if you want a slightly rigged advantage over other players- "INSERT MONEY HERE"....

[SGT_Stubby]

Meth Borm, on 01 August 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

*Buys a founder mech form another player after launch with in game curency* All Primium seems to do is give a C-bill and exp boost. Not guna mater much playing all day anway or once a mech is maxed. Nothing you coun't simply do with more effort unless theres more to it that im unawear of.

You can't trade in the game at all. What you earn is yours and yours alone. So there will be no buying off another player; only PGI.

[Mechxican JAKE]

And "$80 in-game dollars" also? So if you don't have any "in-game currency" then what does that mean? You can't change the colors/emblems on your mech? So you'll pretty much have limited customization? I am willing to support this game with my money, it just honestly doesn't equal what you're actually getting for your money.

[RogueSpear]

Mechxican, from the sounds of things you've never played a free to play game before. They've spent over a year working on this game, sunk a lot of money into conventions, advertising, actually making it in the first place, and they have not made a penny. The founder's package is a very smart business decision - it allows them to start recouping their losses and begin planning for the future of the game. If you paid attention to the releases, they do not give any in battle power ups - you gain extra XP and c-bills for less grinding, some custom skins and some recognition from the devs for supporting them. If it's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but there is no rigged advantage over others unless you count 'I got my ERPPC a game faster than you did.' as a rigged advantage.

[VxSaAgE]

ItsDevin, on 01 August 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Augst 7th is just the inflow of ALL the founders for the Closed Beta ..
You will not get your
Premium Status
Founder Mech's or
Exp and C-Bill Boost

you will receive that when the Game goes Full Launch after the Open Beta

However in Closed Beta you do get 14,000mc every time they wipe the accounts
and it does seem we gain a little more C-Bills then deserved so you do have a surplus of funds all the time
you do keep your Exp after every wipe tho so your piloting bonus's do retain


as for being able to select your Premium status time; as far as I can tell
your 3 months stats the game the game full releases and ends 3 months after.

The NDA the NDA!!!

[Todd Lee]

I would just get the Veterans package, it's honestly the best deal of the 3. Though I'm sure plenty of people will justify their purchasing the others, but whatever floats their boat

[SGT_Stubby]

Mechxican JAKE, on 01 August 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

I still can't see how early access to a game and getting one of four mechs that only gains you extra xp and c-bills/make-believe money equates to 120 real dollars? Names in the credits/founders tag is already a joke cause it will be absolutely indistinguishable amongst the hundreds and hundreds of founders competing for such trivial recognition. Not trolling here-trust me I've been playing and LOVING Mechwarrior since all the way back when 32mb of RAM in a computer was a "big deal" and so far this year I've purchased from amazon.com all the past Mechwarrior games that I never had a chance to play(forked out atleast $100). I know that everything that has time put into it has to cost something, but I have never seen any other game titles that pretty much persuades you into spending $120 to help them "get off their feet" and the only thing they offer for that is cheesy gimmicks like extra points when you play against other people and its not even single player so you're forced to play against people who'll wipe the floor with you in 2 seconds since they devote their entire waking life towards video games.

So technically this game is free-to-play but if you want a slightly rigged advantage over other players- "INSERT MONEY HERE"....

I prefer to think of this as Time=Money.

Those with time and money will advance faster than those with little time and money. It's just plain facts. But if you have money and little time or time but little money then you'll be around the average person. Think of it like a bell curve. The vast majority of people will be somewhere near the center. If you don't want to spend a dime on it, your choice. If you want to spend your life's savings on it then that's your choice as well. I personally don't have all of the time in the world to play so I don't mind dropping cash on a game that I'm going to enjoy and not a "Get off your feet" helping hand. I chose the Legendary Founder status because I wanted to get all 4 base 'mechs and get my game moving faster since I don't have all the time in the world to play.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a "pay to win" title. People who suck at playing this cannot pay more to get an "I win" button or 'mech that has a tactical advantage over the others. The only thing you can do with your cash is buy credits to convert your XP earned (founders mechs only grant a c-bill bonus, you need to have premium service for the xp bonus) to use on other 'mechs or convert them into c-bills.

[ORIGINAL SteelWolf]

ItsDevin, on 01 August 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Augst 7th is just the inflow of ALL the founders for the Closed Beta ..

Note when you posted that. And recall that all the founders as of July 30th are already in beta.

Only one thing I care about regarding Legendary status.... is

First name "SteelWolf" Last name. Drop the ORIGINAL. Even though i am.

[Ravendark]

I suckered up and got elite for the founders mech and 40"$" make-believe-money.
The 120$ package exist for one purpose and one purpose only: People who would pay that amount. It is a result of the Kickstarter wave that showed how much people would pay in return for a few incentives and an undeserved sense of accomplishment.
People who go legendary might say things like "I support the franchise" "I dont mind paying extra for something I really like" but that is all just rationalization after the fact. When has piranha games said those extra money would go to development and not fast cars and crack?
If it was not for the incentives, that slight egde, they would NEVER slug out 60$. It is a combination.
I first saw the system applied by Funcom when launching Secret World, the have Legend/elite/vet also, same deal.
I find the whole thing disgusting since it manipulates materialist and people with weak egos to sling out twice what they need too.
Poeple emotionally affected by these offers have a DISEASE and giving into it only makes it worse, far worse down the line. Try and give some thought to it if you feel the compulsion.
To Piranha Games: Maybe you do not know what you do but I doubt that. Shame on you.

To OP: Dream on, if you are paying for NOT playing then Piranha Games is having the time of their life. There is a reason for it being set consecutive periods.

Edited by Ravendark, 01 August 2012 - 10:30 PM.

[Mechxican JAKE]

Hahaha alright?...
"See the thing about 'free to play' games is-they need to charge money so you can play it"

I applaud their ability to make a whole lot of people think that makes good enough sense. I guess I'm a newbie when it comes to unrealistic prices for game franchises. If I saw this game sitting on a retailers shelf with even an $80 price tag I would definitely buy that in a second only if it didn't mean that other players who spend a little more money than I was willing to pay will get the 'perks' that won't be available to everyone who doesn't pay the max amount. So that means getting a leg up on getting c-bills at a quicker rate than non-founders so you'll be getting closer than they are to buying better weapons and better mechs. I know that it obviously also depends on how good of a player the founder is and I know that just cause they buy a founder pack it really doesn't make them a more skilled player. If you suck then you suck haha.

Only time will tell how the game pans out so when I actually get a chance to play it I'll have a more accurate perspective of MWO. You guys still deserve recognition for the money you put into the Mech Revival though.

[Lin Shai]

Ravendark, on 01 August 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

I suckered up and got elite for the founders mech and 40"$" make-believe-money.
The 120$ package exist for one purpose and one purpose only: People who would pay that amount. It is a result of the Kickstarter wave that showed how much people would pay in return for a few incentives and an undeserved sense of accomplishment.
People who go legendary might say things like "I support the franchise" "I dont mind paying extra for something I really like" but that is all just rationalization after the fact. When has piranha games said those extra money would go to development and not fast cars and crack?
If it was not for the incentives, that slight egde, they would NEVER slug out 60$. It is a combination.
I first saw the system applied by Funcom when launching Secret World, the have Legend/elite/vet also, same deal.
I find the whole thing disgusting since it manipulates materialist and people with weak egos to sling out twice what they need too.
Poeple emotionally affected by these offers have a DISEASE and giving into it only makes it worse, far worse down the line. Try and give some thought to it if you feel the compulsion.
To Piranha Games: Maybe you do not know what you do but I doubt that. Shame on you.

To OP: Dream on, if you are paying for NOT playing then Piranha Games is having the time of their life. There is a reason for it being set consecutive periods.

You have some serious issues. I would honestly consider seeking professional help.

I'd hate to see what would happen if you found out what grown ups with real jobs actually spend on an average meal at a nice restaurant; I suspect you'd have some sort of meltdown.

[Hammish]

Ravendark, on 01 August 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

I suckered up and got elite for the founders mech and 40"$" make-believe-money.
The 120$ package exist for one purpose and one purpose only: People who would pay that amount. It is a result of the Kickstarter wave that showed how much people would pay in return for a few incentives and an undeserved sense of accomplishment.
People who go legendary might say things like "I support the franchise" "I dont mind paying extra for something I really like" but that is all just rationalization after the fact. When has piranha games said those extra money would go to development and not fast cars and crack?
If it was not for the incentives, that slight egde, they would NEVER slug out 60$. It is a combination.
I first saw the system applied by Funcom when launching Secret World, the have Legend/elite/vet also, same deal.
I find the whole thing disgusting since it manipulates materialist and people with weak egos to sling out twice what they need too.
Poeple emotionally affected by these offers have a DISEASE and giving into it only makes it worse, far worse down the line. Try and give some thought to it if you feel the compulsion.
To Piranha Games: Maybe you do not know what you do but I doubt that. Shame on you.

To OP: Dream on, if you are paying for NOT playing then Piranha Games is having the time of their life. There is a reason for it being set consecutive periods.

Or, you know, some people just believe in supporting smaller companies that have for the past few years really been kicking out excellent product and getting their just rewards thanks to programs like Kickstarter and other methods of funding.

In the end, though, if money I pay goes to a developer, a developer who spent a lot of time and energy on making a kick-*** product, and that developer then buys a nice new car with it or does a line of crack? I don't care. He's earned it. And he'll continue to earn it so long as he continues to provide that kick-*** product.

If you want a better example of people providing funding with almost no tangible benefit back, go look at the Penny Arcade kickstarter project to make their site ad-free and eventually work toward Creative Commons. People there are shelling out a lot more that a hundred bucks, a lot more often, and for zero benefit in an online game. Why? Because they believe in the people asking for the dough, and the communal project it represents.