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[Cricent]

think im going to get this costume and walk around and protest............... who is with me ?

[Sam Slade]

tezzaa, on 07 August 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

any1 remember the cat from MC1 misson 2 ?

YES! I used to do that mission over and over until I both killed it with airstirkes on the fuel silos AND salvaged it... made the rest of the game a cakewalk

[Renic]

Stormwolf, on 17 August 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

You ******

That mech looks like a Photoshoped catapult mixed with a couple other mechs. Its not a real MadCat at all.

BFett, on 17 August 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

Still we all know that the Mad Cat will be mech number 16 (if they don't release any more IS mechs).

Spoiler

That Mech looks like a Catapult and a couple other mechs meshed together in Photoshop. It doesn't look like a real MadCat at all.

[BFett]

Renic, on 12 August 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

That mech looks like a Photoshoped catapult mixed with a couple other mechs. Its not a real MadCat at all.


That Mech looks like a Catapult and a couple other mechs meshed together in Photoshop. It doesn't look like a real MadCat at all.

Thanks for the constructive criticism. It is in fact a catapult with the arm of a cataphract attached to it.

[Strum Wealh]

Renic, on 12 August 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

That mech looks like a Photoshoped catapult mixed with a couple other mechs. Its not a real MadCat at all.

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That Mech looks like a Catapult and a couple other mechs meshed together in Photoshop. It doesn't look like a real MadCat at all.

The Mad Cat itself is essentially a Marauder/Catapult FrankenMech.

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The Precentor Martial clapped his hands once. "Computer, project the holographic reconstruction of the primary BattleMech from the Kell tape, clarified and at one-tenth scale."

In silent compliance, the computer materialized a holographic image of the Catapult/Marauder b*****d that had broken the Locust and destroyed Phelan Kell's Wolfhound. Even at only a meter in height, the machine's image retained all its menace. It feels so malevolent. A shiver ran down Myndo's spine and she fought to keep revulsion from her face.

The Precentor Martial, however, was not looking in her direction. He slowly circled the projection like a wolf stalking prey, his gaze flicking from point to point seeking out flaws in the design. When he found none, a smile crept onto his lips and he nodded with admiration and respect.

"Primus, I have taken to calling this model the Mad Cat. As with the Catapult 'Mech, the machine boasts two longrange missile pods, one on each side of the forward-thrust torso. It walks on bird's legs, which gives it a hopping-bobbing gait, though this pilot seems to have been able to conquer that tendency. Quite an achievement, with the low gravity on the asteroid. In addition to the standard Catapult features, two Marauder-typeweapons pods have been added. They have large lasers over medium lasers. Two more medium lasers, one on each side of the torso and two machine guns mounted in the center torso, round out the weapons selection. Yes, a most impressive machine."

As noted in Lethal Heritage by Michael Stackpole (with the relevant section viewable here), the Mad Cat is essentially a somewhat-heavyset Catapult with Marauder-style arms (specifically, it mirrors the Large-over-Medium laser setup used by the MAD-3M Marauder variant) bolted onto the sides

As noted in previous posts, the linked image uses (part of) the Cataphract's right arm (the "gun arm"), which is itself a Marauder's arm (as the Cataphract is itself essentially a Marauder/Shadow Hawk/Phoenix Hawk FrankenMech), as the arms and attaches them to the sides of a Catapult - so, it certainly fits the spirit of the Mad Cat, if not the actual description (as it's not actually showing the dual-lasers on the arms).

[FireDog]

If I saw the above Strum Wealh post fan based Madcat mockup on my IS mech's hud, I would think, Awww S***!!! That's a MadCat! And I'm in his range!

Modeling aside, since the MadCat/Timberwolf shares some of the design characteristic of the Catapult, maybe we should worry that PGI might spread some of their Catapult "love" on the Mad Cat. Making it's hud way too big and giving it a "glass nose" for all to shoot at. Hey, MW4 did it!.

Edited by FireDog, 12 August 2013 - 03:14 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

FireDog, on 12 August 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

If I saw the above Strum Wealh post fan based Madcat mockup on my IS mech's hud, I would think, Awww S***!!! That's a MadCat! And I'm in his range!

Modeling aside, since the MadCat/Timberwolf shares some of the design characteristic of the Catapult, maybe we should worry that PGI might spread some of their Catapult "love" on the Mad Cat. Making it's hud way too big and giving it a "glass nose" for all to shoot at. Hey, MW4 did it!.

To be fair, It's not "my" Mad Cat; I didn't do the artwork, and I only copied it from the post I was responding to for reference and illustrative purposes.

However, I expect that the main points of kvetching about the Mad Cat will (as noted in several threads on the subject) come from:

• having a large, Catapult-like canopy (and correspondingly-sized head hitbox) positioned front-and-center on the 'Mech,
  
• having the launchers count as parts of the side-torsi (which they should) such that blowing out both will kill the 'Mech (via destruction of three or more criticals of its XL Engine), and
  
• the arm weapons and torso-mounted direct-fire weapons being rather low-slung, meaning it has to expose a significant portion of itself (including the aforementioned canopy) in order to attack with its main weapons (much as, for example, the Cataphract does).

Edited by Strum Wealh, 12 August 2013 - 05:27 PM.

[aralad]

I learned this when I made point 2 above in another thread: Clan XL engines only have 2 slots in each side torso, so blowing a side out won't destroy the engine. This seems counter-intuitive to me, but them's the rules.

The other two points stand though.

[mark v92]

took the game models and used a catapult, stalker and cataphract to create some sort of madcat
note that this shouldnt be taken serieusly and i didnt spend much time on it

Edited by mark v92, 21 October 2013 - 04:11 PM.

[Dark Dragonrage]

the mad cat and timber wolf are different mechs... I play MechAssault all the time... the mad cat is better than the timber wolf

[mark v92]

Dark Dragonrage, on 21 October 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

the mad cat and timber wolf are different mechs... I play MechAssault all the time... the mad cat is better than the timber wolf

the name timberwolf is the name the clans gave it when they build it. the name madcat is from when inner sphere pilots first encountered the timberwolf. their targeting computer hadnt seen the mech before and thought it was a maraurder or a catapult so the pc couldnt choose and named it a mix of both names, MadCat. ive played mechassault a lot and in that game the madcat is the same mech but a different variant. like the timberwolf bieing the timberwolf prime and the madcat bieing the timberwolf A. (dunno which variants they precisely used in mechassault tho). so same mech but different weapon loadout in mechassault.

the timberwolf with story and loadouts: http://www.sarna.net..._Wolf_(Mad_Cat)

Edited by mark v92, 22 October 2013 - 07:14 AM.

[CyclonerM]

Nah. He just played MechAssault.

[mark v92]

CyclonerM, on 22 October 2013 - 04:24 AM, said:

Nah. He just played MechAssault.

yh figured that out after checking his profile. so i took the time explaining

[pbiggz]

Dark Dragonrage, on 21 October 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

the mad cat and timber wolf are different mechs... I play MechAssault all the time... the mad cat is better than the timber wolf

fair warning, you'll meet a lot of people who REALLY have the hate on for mech assault, so if you march around with your nose high talking about it you might be completely destroyed.

[CyclonerM]

pbiggz, on 28 October 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

fair warning, you'll meet a lot of people who REALLY have the hate on for mech assault, so if you march around with your nose high talking about it you might be completely destroyed.

Especially if you come to me saying that the Mad Cat is better than the Timber Wolf

But hey, each series has one or more "hated" games, i may say AC:Brotherood and AC: Revelations (not for all the AC fans btw) or Ace Combat Assault Horizon ( )

Edited by CyclonerM, 28 October 2013 - 10:31 AM.

[dal10]

well i don't see any timberwolf mk IIs, mk IIIs, or mk IVs hanging around. do you?

[Stingray Productions]

Powerax, on 07 August 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

Mad cat Mk 4 came around during the dark ages of BT, like 100 + years from now

but still it's pretty cool

[Sneaky Ghillie]

tezzaa, on 07 August 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

any1 remember the cat from MC1 misson 2 ?

One time I played that mission 4 times in a row because it wouldn't salvage.. Deff came in handy

[Stingray Productions]

Ukrainetz, on 19 November 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

One time I played that mission 4 times in a row because it wouldn't salvage.. Deff came in handy

i found it's a lot easier to salvage the mad cat if you only have one mech fight it at a time. What i did is I'd bring mechs with long range weapons, then blow up that bridge before he can come across, then have one mech fight him at long rage at a time. When my mech became damaged, i'd have him run away, and another come fight in his place.

[Uncle Totty]

mark v92, on 21 October 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

took the game models and used a catapult, stalker and cataphract to create some sort of madcat
note that this shouldnt be taken serieusly and i didnt spend much time on it

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